And so the fun begins - water in the engine |
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And so the fun begins - water in the engine |
Tdskip |
Mar 13 2020, 03:33 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,686 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
So I just picked up that ‘74 race car and started digging into it.
First issue: water in the engine. When I pulled the air filters off I noticed the was too much liquid in carbs to be fuel. That led me to pull the intake manifolds off the engine, and when I did that water spilled out. Fun. So the intakes are off the engine now, spark plugs are out, and I just drain the oil in the first 90 seconds of what came out was clear enough to drink water. Never seen that before, was kind of cool in a OMG sort of way. The oil that then came out looks like it was brand new, honey golden still. Any coaching on now what? I think I saw a thread on this before but have not been able to find it. |
Tdskip |
Mar 13 2020, 03:46 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,686 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
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Bleyseng |
Mar 13 2020, 04:39 PM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,034 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
So this is a watercooled 914? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif)
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Tdskip |
Mar 13 2020, 05:52 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,686 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
Ha - and water lubricated too!
Need to do some searching on what from here... |
Tdskip |
Mar 13 2020, 07:37 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,686 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
Looks like the next step here is to change the oil filter and make sure there’s no water in the tuna can at the bottom of the engine, once that’s done I’m going to fill her with fresh oil and shoot some oil down each bore and see if I can gently rotator using the alternator pulley.
Does that sound about right? |
thelogo |
Mar 13 2020, 08:37 PM
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Senior Member Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,510 Joined: 6-April 10 Member No.: 11,572 Region Association: None |
What's it supposed to look like when it's done...
I mean that a pretty big hole in the fenders. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) Since its water cooled is that where the radiators go ? |
Tdskip |
Mar 13 2020, 08:39 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,686 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
I have to say I kind of dig it with the crazy wide tires and no fenders.
This car is using transparent aluminum radiators, you have to look really carefully to see them. ;-; |
bretth |
Mar 13 2020, 11:13 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 899 Joined: 23-June 15 From: Central TX Member No.: 18,882 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I would want to open the motor up. At least look into cylinders for rust if not rusty cam, lifters, and maybe crank too.
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porschetub |
Mar 14 2020, 01:30 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,698 Joined: 25-July 15 From: New Zealand Member No.: 18,995 Region Association: None |
Looks like the next step here is to change the oil filter and make sure there’s no water in the tuna can at the bottom of the engine, once that’s done I’m going to fill her with fresh oil and shoot some oil down each bore and see if I can gently rotator using the alternator pulley. Does that sound about right? That's all I would do. |
Tdskip |
Mar 14 2020, 06:27 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,686 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
Thanks gentlemen, let me do that and then get a borescope into each hole. I'm cautiously optimistic here, but then again you all know I am a moron.
I appreciate the responses. |
Tdskip |
Mar 14 2020, 12:42 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,686 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
Some good news to report. Oil filter was clean, only fresh honey tinfoil on that. About a half cup of water came out of a tuna can, and then a bit of clean oil.
WD40 into plug holes and intakes and the engine turns freely with no hangup or indication that this ever happened. |
Porschef |
Mar 14 2020, 12:54 PM
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How you doin' Group: Members Posts: 2,165 Joined: 7-September 10 From: LawnGuyland Member No.: 12,152 Region Association: North East States |
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Tdskip |
Mar 14 2020, 02:48 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,686 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
Drained the oil again and it came out clean, no water or mud.
Got her to very briefly (like 10 seconds) fire off startng fluid and oil pressure came up and she sounded healthy. I’m going to service the carbs and button her back up. Will change the oil and filter again after briefly running her properly and at that point if it all seems good I’m going to call it good. |
Craigers17 |
Mar 14 2020, 02:56 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 733 Joined: 5-August 17 From: Rome, GA Member No.: 21,317 Region Association: South East States |
Got any more pics of this beast? Interior? Front trunk? This thing is actually pretty cool.
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Tdskip |
Mar 14 2020, 04:07 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,686 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
Got any more pics of this beast? Interior? Front trunk? This thing is actually pretty cool. I will get some more pictures posted tomorrow. I stripped the interior today except for the dashboard. I was then able to take the sound deadening off about 75% of the rear seat sections in the passenger side looks really good. The driver side will need some localized repair but very localized and the firewall looks good. As you probably guessed from my being able to briefly fire her up the electrical system came up and seems healthy. Brakes are there, need to flush the fluid but they work, happy to say that the gearbox appears to be functioning properly as well. Swapped out the dented drivers door and installed the sprayer that came with it. The phone camera doesn’t like the lighting in this picture, but in person the door gaps look OK. The door isn’t closed all the way in that picture, sorry. |
yeahmag |
Mar 14 2020, 04:11 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,421 Joined: 18-April 05 From: Pasadena, CA Member No.: 3,946 Region Association: Southern California |
Are those biasply's on it? That's a hell of a lot of sidewall squishing out...
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Tdskip |
Mar 14 2020, 04:28 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,686 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
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Tdskip |
Mar 14 2020, 04:30 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,686 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
@craigers17
Oil cooling fan works, There’s a switch on the dashboard for automatic, presumably thermostat control, or manual. |
Tdskip |
Mar 14 2020, 04:35 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,686 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
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yeahmag |
Mar 14 2020, 04:36 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,421 Joined: 18-April 05 From: Pasadena, CA Member No.: 3,946 Region Association: Southern California |
Are those biasply's on it? That's a hell of a lot of sidewall squishing out... They are Firestone tires, vintage but I’m not sure exactly what they’re made of. I’ve got 3 1/2 sets of those tires, including six on these vintage Centerlines. Yup... biasply. You can tell by how the tread surface sinks when there's no air in them. |
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