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Chinese Parts, A Rant to Start Discussion |
jfort |
Mar 25 2020, 03:58 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,133 Joined: 5-May 03 From: Findlay, OH Member No.: 652 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I was looking for parts on Pelican yesterday. I can't tell if the parts are Chinese knock offs or not. I have confirmed the lack of information with my friend and mechanic Jay Kjoller. He has a number of recent horror stories of substandard parts and the worst thing is that the vendor didn't even know, when questioned, that they are Chinese and swears otherwise. Jay spoke with the manufacturer (parts for a transmission) who said they stamp an identifying mark because people will file a warranty claim with them in spite of the fact that it is a knock off. On Pelican, the listing for one of the parts will show the colors of the German flag and say "OEM." It's Chinese stuff. Jay had rod bolts that were so out of spec that they wouldn't even fit. After two bad orders he ordered from Germany. The transmission parts were also grossly out of spec. From a Colorado vendor. The box was a poor attempt at duplicating the real manufacturer's. Jay finally ordered from Australia. I don't know what to order most times.
But I'll say this, I think vendors ought to be required to indicate the country of origin. We consumers ought to demand it. Further, I think it is misleading to say "OEM". Beyond that, there is a word for providing misleading information that is material to the buyer's decision -- FRAUD. |
davep |
Mar 25 2020, 10:30 PM
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914 Historian Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,132 Joined: 13-October 03 From: Burford, ON, N0E 1A0 Member No.: 1,244 Region Association: Canada |
I worked for a manufacturer for 29 years. In that time we transitioned a lot of parts to Chinese manufacturers due to price for the most part. We learned to be VERY selective due to quality concerns. Even from good suppliers we often got defective batches. On the other hand, some parts were higher quality than we could get elsewhere; aluminum extrusions were one item where I could only get what I wanted in China. If the purchaser does not demand and qualify the product specifications then you will get off spec parts.
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Superhawk996 |
Mar 26 2020, 05:53 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,670 Joined: 25-August 18 From: Woods of N. Idaho Member No.: 22,428 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
I worked for a manufacturer for 29 years. In that time we transitioned a lot of parts to Chinese manufacturers due to price for the most part. We learned to be VERY selective due to quality concerns. Even from good suppliers we often got defective batches. On the other hand, some parts were higher quality than we could get elsewhere; aluminum extrusions were one item where I could only get what I wanted in China. If the purchaser does not demand and qualify the product specifications then you will get off spec parts. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Nothing wrong with China. It's all about quality control and holding the suppliers accountable. I've seen perfectly fine bushings come out of China. I've see some really lousy dampers come out of U.S. facilities. How many realize that many of the big brand names source out of China, Eastern Europe, or South America? More often than not, you get what you pay for. If you go to a low cost supplier that has drastically undercut their competitors, get ready to get bent over later when they can't deliver on thier quality targets and empty promises. There is a German supplier in particular that everyone here would recognize by name. Everytime I've had to deal with them in the U.S. market, they over promise, underdeliver, and leave me wishing they would just get out of the business. |
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