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jfort
post Mar 25 2020, 03:58 PM
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I was looking for parts on Pelican yesterday. I can't tell if the parts are Chinese knock offs or not. I have confirmed the lack of information with my friend and mechanic Jay Kjoller. He has a number of recent horror stories of substandard parts and the worst thing is that the vendor didn't even know, when questioned, that they are Chinese and swears otherwise. Jay spoke with the manufacturer (parts for a transmission) who said they stamp an identifying mark because people will file a warranty claim with them in spite of the fact that it is a knock off. On Pelican, the listing for one of the parts will show the colors of the German flag and say "OEM." It's Chinese stuff. Jay had rod bolts that were so out of spec that they wouldn't even fit. After two bad orders he ordered from Germany. The transmission parts were also grossly out of spec. From a Colorado vendor. The box was a poor attempt at duplicating the real manufacturer's. Jay finally ordered from Australia. I don't know what to order most times.

But I'll say this, I think vendors ought to be required to indicate the country of origin. We consumers ought to demand it. Further, I think it is misleading to say "OEM". Beyond that, there is a word for providing misleading information that is material to the buyer's decision -- FRAUD.
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davep
post Mar 25 2020, 10:30 PM
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I worked for a manufacturer for 29 years. In that time we transitioned a lot of parts to Chinese manufacturers due to price for the most part. We learned to be VERY selective due to quality concerns. Even from good suppliers we often got defective batches. On the other hand, some parts were higher quality than we could get elsewhere; aluminum extrusions were one item where I could only get what I wanted in China. If the purchaser does not demand and qualify the product specifications then you will get off spec parts.
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post Mar 26 2020, 05:53 AM
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I worked for a manufacturer for 29 years. In that time we transitioned a lot of parts to Chinese manufacturers due to price for the most part. We learned to be VERY selective due to quality concerns. Even from good suppliers we often got defective batches. On the other hand, some parts were higher quality than we could get elsewhere; aluminum extrusions were one item where I could only get what I wanted in China. If the purchaser does not demand and qualify the product specifications then you will get off spec parts.


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Nothing wrong with China. It's all about quality control and holding the suppliers accountable.

I've seen perfectly fine bushings come out of China. I've see some really lousy dampers come out of U.S. facilities. How many realize that many of the big brand names source out of China, Eastern Europe, or South America?

More often than not, you get what you pay for. If you go to a low cost supplier that has drastically undercut their competitors, get ready to get bent over later when they can't deliver on thier quality targets and empty promises.

There is a German supplier in particular that everyone here would recognize by name. Everytime I've had to deal with them in the U.S. market, they over promise, underdeliver, and leave me wishing they would just get out of the business.
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jfort   Chinese Parts   Mar 25 2020, 03:58 PM
dr914@autoatlanta.com   we have them designated G is genuine R is german r...   Mar 25 2020, 04:00 PM
bbrock   I also fell for the "OEM" thing. Luckil...   Mar 25 2020, 04:12 PM
mrholland2   I also fell for the "OEM" thing. Lucki...   Mar 26 2020, 09:36 AM
Unobtanium-inc   I ordered a 911 tail light lens from one of the la...   Mar 25 2020, 05:00 PM
Mikey914   ANY seller of parts should be willing to take back...   Mar 25 2020, 05:24 PM
porschetub   Sad thing is some ''name brand'' c...   Mar 25 2020, 10:06 PM
davep   I worked for a manufacturer for 29 years. In that ...   Mar 25 2020, 10:30 PM
Superhawk996   I worked for a manufacturer for 29 years. In that...   Mar 26 2020, 05:53 AM
914Sixer   What I have leaned is they seems to be DIFFERENT q...   Mar 26 2020, 06:32 AM
VaccaRabite   What I have leaned is they seems to be DIFFERENT ...   Mar 26 2020, 06:52 AM
ConeDodger   I think “OEM” is actually a brand name now...   Mar 26 2020, 07:15 AM
bbrock   I think “OEM” is actually a brand name now......   Mar 26 2020, 08:09 AM
StarBear   I was looking for parts on Pelican yesterday. I c...   Mar 26 2020, 07:19 AM
Mark Henry   I bought a #8 "german" bearing from Vert...   Mar 26 2020, 07:19 AM
Minerva's 914   The brand name OEM is very active on eBay. Mostly ...   Mar 26 2020, 08:25 AM
dr914@autoatlanta.com   Genuine Porsche hood badges are made in China, alo...   Mar 26 2020, 08:38 AM
Superhawk996   Genuine Porsche hood badges are made in China, al...   Mar 26 2020, 09:22 AM
billh1963   This is a very common problem. Great for the con...   Mar 26 2020, 09:27 AM
Super90   A lot has to do with individual country laws. Many...   Mar 26 2020, 08:32 PM
RickS   FCP Euro carries 914 parts as well as many other P...   Mar 26 2020, 10:23 PM
dax1969   Like OEM is brand now we have a simular issue in E...   Mar 27 2020, 04:26 AM
StarBear   Like OEM is brand now we have a simular issue in ...   Mar 27 2020, 08:19 AM
jd74914   Like OEM is brand now we have a simular issue in ...   Mar 27 2020, 09:05 AM
North Coast Jim   I was looking for parts on Pelican yesterday. I c...   Mar 28 2020, 07:17 AM


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