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dereknlee
post Apr 25 2020, 09:27 AM
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I have a decision to make and could use some advice. My 1.7 engine was completely re-built into a 2 liter in 2012 by a local shop. At the time the plan was to run 40 IDFs so a Webcam 86 (00-152) cam was installed. My 914 hasn't driven since 2008 and has been an on-again/off-again project ever since, so the rebuilt long block has never run.

Well the 914 project is back on again and in the intervening years I've decided to stick with D-jet. I talked with Webcam, they said the 86 grind isn't too different but that they recommend a 73. And they generously offered to exchange for the cost of shipping (assuming the cam condition is as new).

Swapping the cam is a bit intimidating as a project, but I have some engine rebuild experience and have done enough wrenching that I think I could muddle through.

My questions are as follows:

1) If in my shoes would anyone not change the cam? My consensus from searching this forum is that the 73 is the grind to go with for injection and 86 is for carbs. But the conversations are usually had while someone is doing a rebuild anyway and looking for the optimal cam.

2) Is there a minimally invasive way to get to the cam, or should I just follow engine rebuild instructions and pull everything apart? Haven't found anything in my searches on this or other forums to suggest there is any option here.

3) Should I really just have a shop do this? The warranty on the rebuild has long expired. But the possibility for mistakes that could take down the otherwise good rebuild abound (or so I fear). Are there any steps in this process that require experience or special tools that someone who is book taught on this process is likely to mess up?

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Thanks!

-Derek
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post Apr 27 2020, 06:42 PM
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QUOTE(dereknlee @ Apr 27 2020, 05:00 PM) *
My searches led me to believe that Djet would work on something as big as a 2056, with some adjustment. TRUE
But I'm hearing that isn't the case for the 1.7L Djet (system). NOT EXACTLY TRUE
So now I have an even harder decision to make than when I started this thread.
Thanks all for the input! -Derek

A simple change to 96mm P&C with net you 1911cc's or 1.9L, Fun Motor! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif)
Many of the components used on the 1.7L variaent of D-Jet can be used on a larger motor but to gain the most from the upgrade
youll need to replace certain items & want to replace other key items.
Think improved breathing & exhaust.
If you have the OE 1.7L HE's & muffler there is one restriction you will want to remedy.
On the intake side equally the 1.7L plenum intake & TB are going to be on the small side.
Will it work? Yes, but not ideal. A better solution is to use the induction from the 2.0L
Someone queried about your heads. VERY good point. depending on the heads you have/use will make the rest of your decisions easy or harder.
With some patience & judicial shopping you can find the stuff (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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dereknlee   Cam Swap, Engine All Together   Apr 25 2020, 09:27 AM
JOEPROPER   Not sure about changing the cam but, if the engine...   Apr 25 2020, 09:39 AM
thelogo   If you have the cam for carbs in there Then run...   Apr 25 2020, 09:39 AM
PanelBilly   I'd ask for Rich to help. If you're not su...   Apr 25 2020, 09:44 AM
TheCabinetmaker   It's not a v8. Cam change is a total breakdown...   Apr 25 2020, 10:01 AM
porschetub   Not a real big job as the motor is already recondi...   Apr 25 2020, 02:56 PM
Cairo94507   Hi Derek, Wow, that's a great looking 914 you...   Apr 25 2020, 03:38 PM
914werke   :agree: good lookin car. I DONT agree with the ca...   Apr 25 2020, 04:28 PM
jd74914   do You have a complete and known working D Jet sys...   Apr 25 2020, 05:28 PM
dereknlee   Lots of good ideas. I think Webers look sexy as...   Apr 25 2020, 09:27 PM
PlaysWithCars   do You have a complete and known working D Jet sy...   Apr 25 2020, 10:23 PM
porschetub   do You have a complete and known working D Jet s...   Apr 25 2020, 10:55 PM
dereknlee   :agree: Fuel injection :beer2: over carbs, but ...   Apr 25 2020, 11:10 PM
JamesM   :agree: Fuel injection :beer2: over carbs, but...   Apr 26 2020, 12:56 AM
GregAmy   Lots of good ideas. I think Webers look sexy a...   Apr 26 2020, 07:02 AM
dereknlee   You never mentioned what d-jet setup you have, or...   Apr 26 2020, 09:13 AM
JamesM   [quote name='JamesM' post='2808443' date='Apr 25 ...   Apr 26 2020, 11:03 PM
dereknlee   What is your ultimate end goal? Starting from wh...   Apr 27 2020, 06:00 PM
Bleyseng   Me? I go the 2.0l engine with a Djet setup and buy...   Apr 26 2020, 10:34 AM
bbrock   I'm no expert on this but I know I've read...   Apr 27 2020, 06:14 PM
Bleyseng   I'm no expert on this but I know I've rea...   Apr 27 2020, 06:27 PM
bbrock   I'm no expert on this but I know I've re...   Apr 27 2020, 07:27 PM
dereknlee   I've had enough on my hands bringing this rus...   Apr 27 2020, 07:34 PM
bbrock   I've had enough on my hands bringing this ru...   Apr 27 2020, 08:25 PM
914werke   My searches led me to believe that Djet would wor...   Apr 27 2020, 06:42 PM
Bleyseng   We should meet up at 914Werke one day. :Qarl:   Apr 27 2020, 07:12 PM
dereknlee   We should meet up at 914Werke one day. :Qarl: ...   Apr 27 2020, 07:25 PM
Mark Henry   Get a stock 2.0 intake system and run MS or SDS EF...   Apr 28 2020, 05:51 AM


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