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Electric questions, hazard, blinker and dash lights |
Daryl32 |
Apr 29 2020, 10:18 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 133 Joined: 14-January 20 From: Southern California Member No.: 23,827 Region Association: Southern California |
Test drove the car for the first time last light.
I have not been able to get the blinker to work since I got the new used harness in the car. #1 Dose the wiring for the blinker go through the hazard switch? #2 Should the light in the hazard switch button be on all the time? In this car it goes off when you pull it out and on all the time when in. Even with the key off. #3 I have no dash lights at all, should I revisit the light switch or so there something else I am missing? It is possible I have some wires on the hazard switch wrong. Thanks. |
dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Apr 29 2020, 11:17 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,820 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
Test drove the car for the first time last light. I have not been able to get the blinker to work since I got the new used harness in the car. #1 Dose the wiring for the blinker go through the hazard switch? just as a junction #2 Should the light in the hazard switch button be on all the time? In this car it goes off when you pull it out and on all the time when in. Even with the key off. no goes off when the key is off #3 I have no dash lights at all, should I revisit the light switch or so there something else I am missing? black with blue wire coming off the headlight switch and taveling through the rheostat It is possible I have some wires on the hazard switch wrong. Thanks. |
Retroracer |
Apr 29 2020, 11:20 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 609 Joined: 7-July 13 From: Bend OR Member No.: 16,100 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Test drove the car for the first time last light. I have not been able to get the blinker to work since I got the new used harness in the car. #1 Dose the wiring for the blinker go through the hazard switch? #2 Should the light in the hazard switch button be on all the time? In this car it goes off when you pull it out and on all the time when in. Even with the key off. #3 I have no dash lights at all, should I revisit the light switch or so there something else I am missing? It is possible I have some wires on the hazard switch wrong. Thanks. In brief: #1: they share a bunch of wiring #2: no, not expected behavior #3: many possible errors, light switch is where I'd start Sounds like you want to re-check wiring carefully against the schematic. Those 1/4" switch connections (and labeling thereof) can easily be missed or swapped... Good luck! - Tony |
914e |
Apr 29 2020, 11:23 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 496 Joined: 21-February 20 From: Arizona Member No.: 23,951 Region Association: Southwest Region |
The turn signals are interconnected with the hazard switch.
The hazard switch should blink when on with the lights. The wire off the rheostat goes to the dash lights. Which is all I know about dash lights since my dash is still out. I do see it working with a test light |
Daryl32 |
Apr 29 2020, 11:44 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 133 Joined: 14-January 20 From: Southern California Member No.: 23,827 Region Association: Southern California |
Thank you for the replies.
The flasher unit has a big Red wire going to it. Should it be "hot" when key is on? Also I have found wiring on line - how much is the difference in wiring/colors between 72 and older and 73 and newer? Seems to be a difference here. |
Tdskip |
Apr 29 2020, 12:36 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,686 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
Also I have found wiring on line - how much is the difference in wiring/colors between 72 and older and 73 and newer? Seems to be a difference here. I'd not expect much difference at all, if any on the same circuits, but please get a second opinion (or third or 4th). Let us know how the rest of the test drive went after this gets sorted, enjoy. |
Daryl32 |
Apr 29 2020, 01:07 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 133 Joined: 14-January 20 From: Southern California Member No.: 23,827 Region Association: Southern California |
Also I have found wiring on line - how much is the difference in wiring/colors between 72 and older and 73 and newer? Seems to be a difference here. I'd not expect much difference at all, if any on the same circuits, but please get a second opinion (or third or 4th). Let us know how the rest of the test drive went after this gets sorted, enjoy. Working on it, pretty sure it needs a new ignition switch. Owner needs me to be done with it though. |
lierofox |
Apr 29 2020, 01:27 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 256 Joined: 23-June 15 From: Paso Robles, CA Member No.: 18,880 Region Association: Southern California |
Thank you for the replies. The flasher unit has a big Red wire going to it. Should it be "hot" when key is on? Also I have found wiring on line - how much is the difference in wiring/colors between 72 and older and 73 and newer? Seems to be a difference here. On my 72 wiring diagram: Big Red Wire goes to Terminal 49 (connects between the hazard switch and the flasher relay) Red wire with White stripe goes to Terminal 15 (Switched power from Fuse 9) Red and Black wire goes to Terminal 30 (Non-Switched battery power from Fuse 11) When the switch is in the pushed-in state, power flows from Terminal 15 to Terminal 49 with the key on. When the switch is pulled-out, power flows from Terminal 30 to Terminal 49. 3 Black/White wires go to Terminal L 3 Black/Green wires go to Terminal R 1 Combo of Black/Green and White/Green wires goes to Terminal 49a Brown wires to Terminal 31 On my 73 wiring diagram: Same as above with 1 additional Black/Blue wire going to Terminal... I think it's 58b (can't make out if it's 56 or 58) |
Daryl32 |
Apr 29 2020, 01:59 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 133 Joined: 14-January 20 From: Southern California Member No.: 23,827 Region Association: Southern California |
Thank you for the replies. The flasher unit has a big Red wire going to it. Should it be "hot" when key is on? Also I have found wiring on line - how much is the difference in wiring/colors between 72 and older and 73 and newer? Seems to be a difference here. On my 72 wiring diagram: Big Red Wire goes to Terminal 49 (connects between the hazard switch and the flasher relay) Red wire with White stripe goes to Terminal 15 (Switched power from Fuse 9) Red and Black wire goes to Terminal 30 (Non-Switched battery power from Fuse 11) When the switch is in the pushed-in state, power flows from Terminal 15 to Terminal 49 with the key on. When the switch is pulled-out, power flows from Terminal 30 to Terminal 49. 3 Black/White wires go to Terminal L 3 Black/Green wires go to Terminal R 1 Combo of Black/Green and White/Green wires goes to Terminal 49a Brown wires to Terminal 31 On my 73 wiring diagram: Same as above with 1 additional Black/Blue wire going to Terminal... I think it's 58b (can't make out if it's 56 or 58) Thank you! Just pulled the switches out (AGAIN ) cleaned the hazard switch and came in to check here and my pictures. This is my switch. |
lierofox |
Apr 29 2020, 02:28 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 256 Joined: 23-June 15 From: Paso Robles, CA Member No.: 18,880 Region Association: Southern California |
Gotcha, so that's a 73+ hazard switch.
The terminal with the + on it (top left) should be Terminal 49 Bottom right is Terminal R And the one sticking out the side (bottom center of the pic) is the ground terminal. |
Daryl32 |
Apr 29 2020, 05:36 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 133 Joined: 14-January 20 From: Southern California Member No.: 23,827 Region Association: Southern California |
Gotcha, so that's a 73+ hazard switch. The terminal with the + on it (top left) should be Terminal 49 Bottom right is Terminal R And the one sticking out the side (bottom center of the pic) is the ground terminal. THANK YOU & THANK YOU AGAIN!!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) IT ALL WORKS NOW!!! Have I mentioned how great this forum is - well you are all a great help to us newbeeeesssss. But I really hate taking the light switches out of these little cars. Anyway had a couple of wires wrong on the hazard switch. Fixed now blinkers & hazards work as designed. Dash light should work had the power feed for them on a non powered fuse in the panel. ??? Thanks again. Some pictures of the assembled car - just need to put some miles on it to make sure all is right before giving it back to the owner. |
Daryl32 |
Apr 29 2020, 05:37 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 133 Joined: 14-January 20 From: Southern California Member No.: 23,827 Region Association: Southern California |
BEING I am Retired IT IS BEER THIRTY! |
lierofox |
Apr 29 2020, 06:07 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 256 Joined: 23-June 15 From: Paso Robles, CA Member No.: 18,880 Region Association: Southern California |
BEING I am Retired IT IS BEER THIRTY! She's a beauty! Though I do have to ask... on this particular vehicle, were the wiper arms installed intentionally so that they park on the passenger side of the car, rather than the driver's side? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) |
Daryl32 |
Apr 29 2020, 06:56 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 133 Joined: 14-January 20 From: Southern California Member No.: 23,827 Region Association: Southern California |
BEING I am Retired IT IS BEER THIRTY! She's a beauty! Though I do have to ask... on this particular vehicle, were the wiper arms installed intentionally so that they park on the passenger side of the car, rather than the driver's side? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) I did it, so I guess I did it incorrectly. I need to move them, one more thing to do now.....LOL Thanks ??? LOL Was going to look for a picture will do that now. I have a refurbish thread on this car here, have you seen it? http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...342776&st=0 Finished engine picture. |
lierofox |
Apr 29 2020, 07:00 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 256 Joined: 23-June 15 From: Paso Robles, CA Member No.: 18,880 Region Association: Southern California |
I did it, so I guess I did it incorrectly. I need to move them, one more thing to do now.....LOL Thanks ??? LOL Was going to look for a picture will do that now. Ah don't sweat that, not the first, won't be the last. At least that's an easy fix with a wrench! And you better believe I'm guilty of the same sin! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
Daryl32 |
Apr 29 2020, 07:03 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 133 Joined: 14-January 20 From: Southern California Member No.: 23,827 Region Association: Southern California |
I did it, so I guess I did it incorrectly. I need to move them, one more thing to do now.....LOL Thanks ??? LOL Was going to look for a picture will do that now. Ah don't sweat that, not the first, won't be the last. At least that's an easy fix with a wrench! And you better believe I'm guilty of the same sin! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drunk.gif) Late night job! LOL |
porschetub |
Apr 30 2020, 02:21 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,697 Joined: 25-July 15 From: New Zealand Member No.: 18,995 Region Association: None |
Well done,IMO fixing electrical on my car is the most rewarding job,automotive wiring can be a PITA on older cars..I always seem to get there but it generally takes me for ever (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) .
Nice looking car by the way. |
Daryl32 |
Apr 30 2020, 07:30 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 133 Joined: 14-January 20 From: Southern California Member No.: 23,827 Region Association: Southern California |
Well done,IMO fixing electrical on my car is the most rewarding job,automotive wiring can be a PITA on older cars..I always seem to get there but it generally takes me for ever (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) . Nice looking car by the way. thank you and I agree about the wiring. Thought about just cutting all this off and turning into a 5 wire track car! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/evilgrin.gif) Why do they always design it to be put in the hardest places to get your hands? REALLY? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
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