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> For flat sixes: Webers v MFI v EFI, Ecologically speaking…
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post Jun 5 2020, 03:34 PM
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Currently have a 2.2E/S with Webers. It runs well and makes good power, having been tuned on the dyno and further dialed in since then, but I have discovered I'm just not a carburetor person. Fuel economy isn't good enough for the size of engine/car, and the emissions bother me—both in terms of the smells in my garage and while driving the car. And yes, we've been totally spoiled by low emissions cars.

What I'm curious about, for anyone who has lived with carbs and MFI: Is MFI noticeably cleaner and/or more efficient than carbs?

Or is EFI the way to go? I'm in no hurry on this, but curious for the experiences of others. Yes, Motronic, but I actually like the 2.2 engine.

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QUOTE(worn @ Jun 5 2020, 03:34 PM) *

Cross country I got a little better than 25 mpg with the 3.2 and stock efi. Same as my big Ford Escape. One cause of the lower mileage is the increase in speed limit across the different states. At 85 mph you are way past the inflection of the drag curve. But crossing Nebraska, you feel silly not keeping up with the Jeeps.

My 914 with 97 Nissan 3.0L will do 29 mpg @ 90 mph between Reno & Vegas, stock ECU.

My Nissan 3.5L swap will get full aftermarket FI, MS3Pro EVO. Allows a few different tunes (street, track, highway). I can run a bit lean at 90 mph for mileage or a bit rich for cooling on the track. Also the software has 'autotune' to make initial setup & tuning easier.

You can use whatever intake hardware that fits, as the controls such as TPS MAF/MAP WBO2 TEMP INJECTORS all can be GM or Subaru or in my case stock Nissan.

I'll be all in for about $1500, which is likely cheaper than the dinosaur Porsche factory FI.
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horizontally-opposed   For flat sixes: Webers v MFI v EFI   Jun 5 2020, 03:34 PM
sixnotfour   efi is the old school Boss..not so correct for the...   Jun 5 2020, 03:57 PM
mepstein   A properly restored and tuned MFI setup will be cl...   Jun 5 2020, 04:33 PM
worn   Currently have a 2.2E/S with Webers. It runs well...   Jun 5 2020, 04:34 PM
SirAndy   Cross country I got a little better than 25 mpg wi...   Jun 5 2020, 06:29 PM
burton73   I can tell you one thing, MFI on an E or S when tu...   Jun 5 2020, 04:53 PM
colingreene   EFI is the only way to go if you dont mind spendin...   Jun 5 2020, 05:10 PM
raynekat   MFI is good for power, but not fuel economy or low...   Jun 5 2020, 05:16 PM
morgan_harwell   MFI will not get better MPG or Emissions than woul...   Jun 5 2020, 05:32 PM
horizontally-opposed   Appreciate the replies so far. Have driven MFI—I...   Jun 5 2020, 06:19 PM
Sway Bar   Interesting...I think most of 6 drivers don't ...   Jun 5 2020, 06:26 PM
roblav1   My 2.2E targa MFI got 17 mpg highway back in 1982....   Jun 5 2020, 09:15 PM
horizontally-opposed   My 2.2E targa MFI got 17 mpg highway back in 1982...   Jun 6 2020, 12:35 AM
Charles Freeborn   https://rasantproducts.com   Jun 5 2020, 09:22 PM
gereed75   I have been collecting parts for a few years now t...   Jun 5 2020, 09:51 PM
porschetub   I have been collecting parts for a few years now ...   Jun 6 2020, 12:07 AM
Chris914n6   Cross country I got a little better than 25 mpg w...   Jun 5 2020, 10:40 PM
stevesc_us   Pete, You’ve seen my car at the EASY get togeth...   Jun 5 2020, 11:32 PM
gereed75   My carbed 2.4 in S trim runs good, pulls smoothly ...   Jun 6 2020, 05:53 AM
roblav1   A problem with carbs and MFI is that a lot of unat...   Jun 6 2020, 06:52 AM
horizontally-opposed   A problem with carbs and MFI is that a lot of una...   Jun 6 2020, 11:22 AM
jd74914   [quote name='roblav1' post='2822540' date='Jun 6 ...   Jun 6 2020, 01:58 PM
mb911   I plan to do 1 of 2 things on my car.. Use my webe...   Jun 6 2020, 06:52 AM
Mark Henry   I plan to do 1 of 2 things on my car.. Use my web...   Jun 7 2020, 06:34 AM
sixnotfour   https://www.x-faktory.com/store/p3/EFI_Kit_RHD-EFI...   Jun 6 2020, 01:36 PM
roblav1   I paid $300 for 8 low mileage Suzuki ITBs, wi...   Jun 6 2020, 03:24 PM
sixnotfour   http://forums.pelicanparts.com/search.php?do=proce...   Jun 6 2020, 03:42 PM
mepstein   I would give Al a call about his x-faktory kit and...   Jun 6 2020, 03:46 PM
sixnotfour   Als a great guy , would make a great article too. ...   Jun 6 2020, 04:14 PM
roblav1   I've got the same cams as Mark in my Carrera 3...   Jun 7 2020, 07:22 AM
Mark Henry   I've got the same cams as Mark in my Carrera ...   Jun 7 2020, 08:36 AM
roblav1   I've got the same cams as Mark in my Carrera...   Jun 7 2020, 09:19 AM
horizontally-opposed   I can see where PMO carbs are attractive to someon...   Jun 7 2020, 10:07 AM
echocanyons   I have essentially the same setup as Steve in my 9...   Jun 7 2020, 12:17 PM
horizontally-opposed   I have essentially the same setup as Steve in my ...   Jun 7 2020, 12:53 PM
Chris914n6   MS3pro is a completely different system than the M...   Jun 7 2020, 12:48 PM


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