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> For flat sixes: Webers v MFI v EFI, Ecologically speaking…
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post Jun 5 2020, 03:34 PM
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Currently have a 2.2E/S with Webers. It runs well and makes good power, having been tuned on the dyno and further dialed in since then, but I have discovered I'm just not a carburetor person. Fuel economy isn't good enough for the size of engine/car, and the emissions bother me—both in terms of the smells in my garage and while driving the car. And yes, we've been totally spoiled by low emissions cars.

What I'm curious about, for anyone who has lived with carbs and MFI: Is MFI noticeably cleaner and/or more efficient than carbs?

Or is EFI the way to go? I'm in no hurry on this, but curious for the experiences of others. Yes, Motronic, but I actually like the 2.2 engine.

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post Jun 5 2020, 09:51 PM
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I have been collecting parts for a few years now to do an EFI system using MFI throttle bodies and the MFI injector ports in my 2.4 heads.

I have a set of MFI throttle bodies and stacks and they can be had for cheaper than most of the offerings on the market for ITB’s and you can bolt right up including linkages and retain the classic Porsche look and airbox/filter options.

From there I plan to use Rasant stuff. This has been done successfully by many. Al Kosmal has done it at least once, Jamie Novak several times and others over on Pelican. Jamie sells adapters to fit modern electric injectors in MFI injectors ports.

http://classicautowerks.com/mfi-injector-adapters

Overall cost should be around $6000.00. Selling Weber’s will recoup 1/2 of that.

Will be cool if I ever get around to actually finishing it instead of talking about it. Current carbs are tuned ok and Too many other projects.
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post Jun 6 2020, 12:07 AM
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QUOTE(gereed75 @ Jun 6 2020, 03:51 PM) *

I have been collecting parts for a few years now to do an EFI system using MFI throttle bodies and the MFI injector ports in my 2.4 heads.

I have a set of MFI throttle bodies and stacks and they can be had for cheaper than most of the offerings on the market for ITB’s and you can bolt right up including linkages and retain the classic Porsche look and airbox/filter options.

From there I plan to use Rasant stuff. This has been done successfully by many. Al Kosmal has done it at least once, Jamie Novak several times and others over on Pelican. Jamie sells adapters to fit modern electric injectors in MFI injectors ports.

http://classicautowerks.com/mfi-injector-adapters

Overall cost should be around $6000.00. Selling Weber’s will recoup 1/2 of that.

Will be cool if I ever get around to actually finishing it instead of talking about it. Current carbs are tuned ok and Too many other projects.


What is your MPG with your 2.2? mine with good tune is really crap ?
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horizontally-opposed   For flat sixes: Webers v MFI v EFI   Jun 5 2020, 03:34 PM
sixnotfour   efi is the old school Boss..not so correct for the...   Jun 5 2020, 03:57 PM
mepstein   A properly restored and tuned MFI setup will be cl...   Jun 5 2020, 04:33 PM
worn   Currently have a 2.2E/S with Webers. It runs well...   Jun 5 2020, 04:34 PM
SirAndy   Cross country I got a little better than 25 mpg wi...   Jun 5 2020, 06:29 PM
burton73   I can tell you one thing, MFI on an E or S when tu...   Jun 5 2020, 04:53 PM
colingreene   EFI is the only way to go if you dont mind spendin...   Jun 5 2020, 05:10 PM
raynekat   MFI is good for power, but not fuel economy or low...   Jun 5 2020, 05:16 PM
morgan_harwell   MFI will not get better MPG or Emissions than woul...   Jun 5 2020, 05:32 PM
horizontally-opposed   Appreciate the replies so far. Have driven MFI—I...   Jun 5 2020, 06:19 PM
Sway Bar   Interesting...I think most of 6 drivers don't ...   Jun 5 2020, 06:26 PM
roblav1   My 2.2E targa MFI got 17 mpg highway back in 1982....   Jun 5 2020, 09:15 PM
horizontally-opposed   My 2.2E targa MFI got 17 mpg highway back in 1982...   Jun 6 2020, 12:35 AM
Charles Freeborn   https://rasantproducts.com   Jun 5 2020, 09:22 PM
gereed75   I have been collecting parts for a few years now t...   Jun 5 2020, 09:51 PM
porschetub   I have been collecting parts for a few years now ...   Jun 6 2020, 12:07 AM
Chris914n6   Cross country I got a little better than 25 mpg w...   Jun 5 2020, 10:40 PM
stevesc_us   Pete, You’ve seen my car at the EASY get togeth...   Jun 5 2020, 11:32 PM
gereed75   My carbed 2.4 in S trim runs good, pulls smoothly ...   Jun 6 2020, 05:53 AM
roblav1   A problem with carbs and MFI is that a lot of unat...   Jun 6 2020, 06:52 AM
horizontally-opposed   A problem with carbs and MFI is that a lot of una...   Jun 6 2020, 11:22 AM
jd74914   [quote name='roblav1' post='2822540' date='Jun 6 ...   Jun 6 2020, 01:58 PM
mb911   I plan to do 1 of 2 things on my car.. Use my webe...   Jun 6 2020, 06:52 AM
Mark Henry   I plan to do 1 of 2 things on my car.. Use my web...   Jun 7 2020, 06:34 AM
sixnotfour   https://www.x-faktory.com/store/p3/EFI_Kit_RHD-EFI...   Jun 6 2020, 01:36 PM
roblav1   I paid $300 for 8 low mileage Suzuki ITBs, wi...   Jun 6 2020, 03:24 PM
sixnotfour   http://forums.pelicanparts.com/search.php?do=proce...   Jun 6 2020, 03:42 PM
mepstein   I would give Al a call about his x-faktory kit and...   Jun 6 2020, 03:46 PM
sixnotfour   Als a great guy , would make a great article too. ...   Jun 6 2020, 04:14 PM
roblav1   I've got the same cams as Mark in my Carrera 3...   Jun 7 2020, 07:22 AM
Mark Henry   I've got the same cams as Mark in my Carrera ...   Jun 7 2020, 08:36 AM
roblav1   I've got the same cams as Mark in my Carrera...   Jun 7 2020, 09:19 AM
horizontally-opposed   I can see where PMO carbs are attractive to someon...   Jun 7 2020, 10:07 AM
echocanyons   I have essentially the same setup as Steve in my 9...   Jun 7 2020, 12:17 PM
horizontally-opposed   I have essentially the same setup as Steve in my ...   Jun 7 2020, 12:53 PM
Chris914n6   MS3pro is a completely different system than the M...   Jun 7 2020, 12:48 PM


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