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Overfilled the transmission |
AZBanks |
Jun 15 2020, 01:25 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,062 Joined: 7-December 05 From: New River, AZ Member No.: 5,245 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I installed a replacement transmission in the 71.
I may have overfilled the trans. Would the excess trans oil leak out the axle and front seals or does the presence of leaks mean I need to replace the seals?? |
AZBanks |
Oct 17 2020, 08:14 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,062 Joined: 7-December 05 From: New River, AZ Member No.: 5,245 Region Association: Southwest Region |
In my "front engine 914" thread I documented that my car was upgraded to bmw 320i front brake calipers by some PO.
Some how, when I ordered the transmission seals I ended up with a 914 front seal and 2 320i output shaft seals. I put in a new order and got the correct 914 output shaft seals. I put them in, filled the transmission and put it back in the car. I got everything back together just in time to take it in for emissions testing to renew the registration. AND... It failed. Loaded hydrocarbons was great ((138)362 under the limit of 500) Idle hydrocarbons was terrible. ((1087)587 over the limit of 500). Loaded CO barely failed. ((4.51).31 over the limit of 4.20) Idle CO was good. ((4.55).95 under the limit of 5.50) The carbs were tuned for the 1.8 I just pulled out of the car. I put them on the replacement 1.7 when I did the engine swap but never got around to tuning them for the car. I guess that is the next step... Except, see below. Emission testing was fun(NOT!) I pulled in and two guys were working the bay. One skinny dude and one very not skinny dude. They both liked my car so they played "rock - paper- scissors" to see who got to drive it. Seriously??? The BIG guy won so he got in and gave it a shot. Dogleg 1st gear was not accessible due to his excess thigh circumference. He tried to get it rolling three times and they all failed with him lugging the engine to a stop in third gear. So he extricates himself from the car and the skinny dude gets in. No Start!!! Turn the key. NOTHING!!! No click of the starter, nothing, just dead. I check everything and can find nothing wrong. I was thinking heat soaked solenoid or something. So they help me push the car out of the bay and into the parking lot. I let it cool off for 30 minutes. NOTHING! There was no prior indication that there was a charging issue but just to be on the safe side I had another of the workers try to give me a jump. NOTHING! No change. So I wait another 30 minutes and try to start it again. NOTHING!!!! Language not suitable for small children may have been spoken at this point. Ok, plan "B". I try to bump start it. BINGO, we have a winner. Fires right up and in an act of extreme bravery I turn it off to see if the problem is fixed. It IS!!! It restarts like a champ. I jump out to close the engine lip and notice a couple fuses on the floor. I must have kicked them loose when I jumped in during the bump start. No biggy, The car is running, I'll fix them later when I get home. The car is running so it's all good. I drive back around to get in line and the car starts running rough and then just dies. It won't restart. WTH??? What is wrong now? I start checking things and everything still looks good. Everything is good until I realize what I DON'T hear when I turn the key. I don't hear the fuel pump... I wonder what the fuses I kicked loose are for. ??? You guessed it, I had kicked loose the fuel pump fuse. I put that back in place and immediately hear the fuel pump kick on. 10 seconds later it is running like a champ again. I pull back into the bay and they run the tests. Aforementioned failure occurs. More foul language may have been spoken. I drove home and parked it in the garage. I went out to check things a couple hours later. I should keep a swear jar. I could retire much sooner. %*&^$*&^#@)*^!$##@!!!!! I have a small leak that looks like it is coming from the taco plate. Easy fix. And I misspoke a few posts back. I did not replace the rear engine seal before the swap. I replaced the front engine seal before the swap. I didn't swap the RMS because there was no indication that it was leaking. Now I don't know. There is oil leaking at the junction between the engine and trans so either the new trans input seal didn't get seated correctly and is leaking or the RMS is leaking. In either case, the whole thing has to come back out and be split apart. On a positive note, The front of the engine is completely dry and the trans output shafts are completely dry. |
mrholland2 |
Oct 20 2020, 09:39 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 750 Joined: 7-September 11 From: Santa Maria,CA Member No.: 13,531 Region Association: Central California |
In my "front engine 914" thread I documented that my car was upgraded to bmw 320i front brake calipers by some PO. Some how, when I ordered the transmission seals I ended up with a 914 front seal and 2 320i output shaft seals. I put in a new order and got the correct 914 output shaft seals. I put them in, filled the transmission and put it back in the car. I got everything back together just in time to take it in for emissions testing to renew the registration. AND... It failed. Loaded hydrocarbons was great ((138)362 under the limit of 500) Idle hydrocarbons was terrible. ((1087)587 over the limit of 500). Loaded CO barely failed. ((4.51).31 over the limit of 4.20) Idle CO was good. ((4.55).95 under the limit of 5.50) The carbs were tuned for the 1.8 I just pulled out of the car. I put them on the replacement 1.7 when I did the engine swap but never got around to tuning them for the car. I guess that is the next step... Except, see below. Emission testing was fun(NOT!) I pulled in and two guys were working the bay. One skinny dude and one very not skinny dude. They both liked my car so they played "rock - paper- scissors" to see who got to drive it. Seriously??? The BIG guy won so he got in and gave it a shot. Dogleg 1st gear was not accessible due to his excess thigh circumference. He tried to get it rolling three times and they all failed with him lugging the engine to a stop in third gear. So he extricates himself from the car and the skinny dude gets in. Why on earth does a 1971 car have to do emissions testing? They didn't have emissions control when they were made. I'm so confused. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) |
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