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> Heat shed, what am I missing to cool her down?, *Update - 1st Test Run after cleanup - still HOT
nditiz1
post Jul 5 2020, 09:41 AM
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Update - pass side tin removed. Signs of leakage.

*Update* - Webers were successful in scooting the teener down the road, but head temps still reached 400, engine drop to follow shortly.

Stock 2.0 Engine
Converted to carbs - (Dual 40 Dells - 60 Idle jet)
Engine tin in place - needs seal on the passenger side
Thermostat - dead/expanded - flaps auto spring to full open
Valves set .006/.008
Timing 28 - New Pertronix SVDA - vac plugged when timed to 28
No AFR setup - want to say rich not lean
New plugs NGK B6ES gapped to .028
*Updated info based on comments*
Oil pressure when hot 40 PSI at 4k - so looks ok
Oil currently in the block unknown - dark lol, but within the min and max marks
Targa was on during test run
Deflection flaps present
Cooling fan has 1 broken fin
CHT gauge is Dakota Digital under cyl#3 spark plug
Engine lid is currently off - is this a major cause for the issues? - found the posts where this is not an issue
Dealer installed AC - Box and grate still in place - is this robbing the cool air from under the car at speed?


Running oil temp 240/250F 85F ambient temp
Head temps in 4th on flat cruising at 65 mph at 4k RPM - *400 and climbing if going up a hill
Head temps in 3rd up and down hills *395, but can hit 400 if I get on it just a little

Compression test was

Cyl #1 - 135
Cyl #2 - 135
Cyl #3 - 130 - CHT temp sensor
Cyl #4 - 135

Assuming the carbs are not lean (went 3 turns out, and now went to 4) what should I check next? I thought maybe I needed a rebuild since the compression numbers cold were around 125 with with a 12 psi gap between 2 of the cylinders, but this warm compression check looks healthy.

The plugs do look a little white, but the last run I did was in the garage with it running at idle and some briefs to 3500 RPM to ensure the timing was correct. I know this is not to preferred method to check plugs as they should be done driving regularly and then shut off the engine and not let it idle to get a true reading. I have a gas tester I can maybe hook up to check the CO2 at the tail pipe (yes, I should have an AFR to get better readings)

In the garage I was running at 350 head temp just at idle ambient temps 82. I know sitting has no air flow. I feel like when I rebuilt my last 2056, I could idle in the garage all day long at 300 or under.

Let's assume the carbs are rich enough in the mixture so as to not be lean, will the engine seals being tattered and 1 missing (most crucial side (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) ) be enough to make even back road driving push cyl 3 head temps to 400 and above?

Plugs - less than 50 miles - maybe not enough time
Cyl 1 and 2
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Cyl 3 and 4
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nditiz1   Heat shed, what am I missing to cool her down?   Jul 5 2020, 09:41 AM
infraredcalvin   Eliminate simple variables: Fix thermostat and get...   Jul 5 2020, 10:45 AM
Bleyseng   What oil are you running? What oil pressure do you...   Jul 5 2020, 10:57 AM
nditiz1   Oil pressure hot looks good. I was at 40 PSI runn...   Jul 5 2020, 11:05 AM
Ansbacher   Even though you are reporting 28 degrees, it sure ...   Jul 5 2020, 11:06 AM
nditiz1   Even though you are reporting 28 degrees, it sure...   Jul 5 2020, 11:17 AM
Ansbacher   Nditiz1: Yes I am running a Pertronix in my 009. ...   Jul 5 2020, 11:36 AM
ndfrigi   Hello, In addition to above suggestions/comments:...   Jul 5 2020, 01:32 PM
nditiz1   Hello, In addition to above suggestions/comments...   Jul 5 2020, 01:53 PM
JamesM   Pretty much everything you mentioned is most likel...   Jul 5 2020, 02:36 PM
nditiz1   Pretty much everything you mentioned is most like...   Jul 5 2020, 02:54 PM
JamesM   James, I am pulling vac adv from cyl #4. I set ...   Jul 6 2020, 11:07 AM
barefoot   I'd try to check if your cylinder head temp ga...   Jul 6 2020, 06:13 AM
Superhawk996   I'm going to stir the pot a little here. :st...   Jul 6 2020, 06:59 AM
nditiz1   Thanks barefoot. I will test it. Are you also ru...   Jul 6 2020, 07:07 AM
rhodyguy   Fuel mixture adjuster. I'll presume you're...   Jul 6 2020, 07:33 AM
Superhawk996   If you sealed completely with duct tape and are st...   Jul 6 2020, 07:35 AM
rhodyguy   Also, how have you set the air bypass screws?   Jul 6 2020, 07:56 AM
VaccaRabite   This sounds really familiar! In fact I had al...   Jul 6 2020, 08:09 AM
Superhawk996   One more thing I will add, the "Factory...   Jul 6 2020, 08:19 AM
rhodyguy   And usually the huge piece removed from the pass s...   Jul 6 2020, 08:18 AM
nditiz1   Awesome info all! Ok so I did mean idle mixtu...   Jul 6 2020, 08:47 AM
rhodyguy   I was unsure whether you were running Dels or Webe...   Jul 6 2020, 08:53 AM
VaccaRabite   I would not tear down an engine making 135PSI in a...   Jul 6 2020, 09:23 AM
rhodyguy   Which flavor of Webers? 40s or 44s? Used, unknown ...   Jul 6 2020, 09:30 AM
rhodyguy   Which flavor of Webers? 40s or 44s? Used, unknown ...   Jul 6 2020, 09:31 AM
nditiz1   Which flavor of Webers? 40s or 44s? Used, unknown...   Jul 6 2020, 09:37 AM
rhodyguy   Go for it. The Tomlinson Weber manual from Cb is ...   Jul 6 2020, 09:46 AM
nditiz1   Go for it. The Tomlinson Weber manual from Cb is...   Jul 6 2020, 09:50 AM
Ansbacher   Nditz1: Did you ever try running it with the vacu...   Jul 6 2020, 10:12 AM
nditiz1   Nditz1: Did you ever try running it with the vac...   Jul 6 2020, 10:28 AM
rhodyguy   28* at what RPM?   Jul 6 2020, 10:39 AM
nditiz1   28* at what RPM? 3500+   Jul 6 2020, 10:43 AM
nditiz1   James - I went with the preferred method of pullin...   Jul 6 2020, 11:29 AM
nditiz1   Update* Went out for another test run last night....   Jul 10 2020, 08:35 AM
hcdmueller   If I remember correctly, certain cars factory equi...   Jul 10 2020, 01:06 PM
nditiz1   @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showu...   Jul 11 2020, 09:33 AM
douglastic   Would these minor items be enough to prevent well...   Jul 11 2020, 10:05 AM
rhodyguy   how junked up is the bottom side of the cooler? Wh...   Jul 11 2020, 10:15 AM
Superhawk996   Point of note: Look at the oily residue between ...   Jul 11 2020, 12:22 PM
nditiz1   @Superhawk996 - Excellent points. To address the...   Jul 11 2020, 02:23 PM
Superhawk996   [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s...   Jul 11 2020, 06:16 PM
barefoot   One thing I noticed when I was first cleaning up t...   Jul 12 2020, 09:23 AM
type2man   Buy some 62 idles, and then get all your gauges, t...   Jul 12 2020, 07:02 PM
VaccaRabite   What were your head temps with the Webers bolted o...   Jul 13 2020, 09:22 AM
nditiz1   Zach the head temps were about the same with the W...   Jul 13 2020, 01:37 PM
nditiz1   *Will need a drop and rebuild Not sure what else ...   Jul 14 2020, 10:27 PM
Superhawk996   Arghh . . . . Only last suggestion - sorry if I...   Jul 15 2020, 05:38 AM
nditiz1   I did not check the accuracy of the CHT. I can do...   Jul 15 2020, 05:47 AM
Superhawk996   I did not check the accuracy of the CHT. I can d...   Jul 15 2020, 05:53 AM


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