Not your typical HVAC system., Looking for alternatives to conventional HVAC system. |
|
Porsche, and the Porsche crest are registered trademarks of Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG.
This site is not affiliated with Porsche in any way. Its only purpose is to provide an online forum for car enthusiasts. All other trademarks are property of their respective owners. |
|
Not your typical HVAC system., Looking for alternatives to conventional HVAC system. |
Literati914 |
Jul 14 2020, 11:40 AM
Post
#21
|
Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,475 Joined: 16-November 06 From: Dallas, TX Member No.: 7,222 Region Association: Southwest Region |
..; has anyone tried an alternate condensor to cutting the frunk floor?? Just wondered if there's scope to mount one in the engine lid (possibly a narrow condensor in a double 914-6 lid) and still isolate it from the hot engine compt air below - or is that just unrealistic?? I'd love to fit one but don't want to cut up the frunk? If I remember @ClayPerrine mounted an AC condenser (from some model of 911?) under the engine lid with success. Also - don't I remember some talk of someone adding AC to the inside of the fresh air box? Don't remember any of the details .. but that seems like a great idea if it could work. Me? I have two 914s that have both had the frunk floors cut for AC, but nothing else AC related - and I'm gonna have to have air in at least one! |
73-914 |
Jul 14 2020, 11:54 AM
Post
#22
|
Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 579 Joined: 24-April 10 From: Albany UpstateNY Member No.: 11,651 Region Association: None |
I like the ideal of electronically run ac and heating system that will not rob power from the engine. That's not how physics works though. A large electrical current draw will still rob power from your engine. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) I agree (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) You can neither create nor destroy energy, only change it's form |
ClayPerrine |
Jul 14 2020, 12:50 PM
Post
#23
|
Life's been good to me so far..... Group: Admin Posts: 15,514 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
..; has anyone tried an alternate condensor to cutting the frunk floor?? Just wondered if there's scope to mount one in the engine lid (possibly a narrow condensor in a double 914-6 lid) and still isolate it from the hot engine compt air below - or is that just unrealistic?? I'd love to fit one but don't want to cut up the frunk? If I remember @ClayPerrine mounted an AC condenser (from some model of 911?) under the engine lid with success. Also - don't I remember some talk of someone adding AC to the inside of the fresh air box? Don't remember any of the details .. but that seems like a great idea if it could work. Me? I have two 914s that have both had the frunk floors cut for AC, but nothing else AC related - and I'm gonna have to have air in at least one! I added an additional condenser in series with the one in the front trunk. It is from an 911 SC, and it mounts to the engine lid. With the R134a conversion, it helped to lower evaporator output temps to the point I could get the inside of her car down to the high 70s on a 100+ degree Texas summer day. I didn't remove the original condenser, I just supplemented it. It makes the engine lid require a prop rod, but it does make the AC nice and cold. But there is not room on the engine lid for a condenser big enough to handle the whole load, and it will make the engine run hotter too. |
Carbon-14 |
Jul 14 2020, 04:01 PM
Post
#24
|
Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 765 Joined: 7-May 20 From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Member No.: 24,238 Region Association: Canada |
Not your typical HVAC system
' Swamp Coolers ' or, more accurately, ' automotive evaporative adiabatic air conditioner ' : an electrical load on system, carrying a few gallons of water, filled regularly in summer, most useful in dry, hot conditions. Works on chilling air-cooled engines too ! https://www.google.com/search?q=automotive+...=4Bhdw6yhOfMpiM http://dspace.mit.edu/handle/1721.1/35980 https://ecomodder.com/forum/showthread.php/...-c-24392-3.html https://www.et.byu.edu/~rowley/ChEn273/Topi...tric_Charts.htm https://issuu.com/abccjack20/docs/thermodyn...gineering-appro https://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/11/11/trop...rative-cooling/ Pulling an entire AC system from a wrecked van would work too, for a cheep compromise, though some reverse engineering would be required. Driving the compressor's input shaft is the first task, a 12 volt electric compressor is an option, and a simpler solution if sourced easily. https://www.summitracing.com/parts/vta-6740...BSABEgJzIPD_BwE |
Don Contreras |
Jul 14 2020, 06:36 PM
Post
#25
|
Newbie Group: Members Posts: 20 Joined: 13-April 16 From: Bryn Mawr, WA Member No.: 19,898 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
What options are there for A/C & heat for a 914 with V8?
|
Steve |
Jul 15 2020, 07:17 AM
Post
#26
|
914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,613 Joined: 14-June 03 From: Orange County, CA Member No.: 822 Region Association: Southern California |
What options are there for A/C & heat for a 914 with V8? There are under dash units that support both AC and heat. https://www.vintageair.com/ |
914forme |
Jul 15 2020, 08:44 AM
Post
#27
|
Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) used with success here in a Subaru swap @76-914 Kent please fill in the details as you lived with a similar unit for years now.
|
76-914 |
Jul 15 2020, 11:40 AM
Post
#28
|
Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,508 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) used with success here in a Subaru swap @76-914 Kent please fill in the details as you lived with a similar unit for years now. @914forme Sure Stephan. BTW Steve has seen my setup. I went with the Vintage air unit because of the depth of that unit. Everything I found was 12" depth except for this one particular unit they sell that has a 10" depth. Even then it is a close fit. The closer is that you don't need to cut or drill new holes in your lower dash/knee pad. On the right side I bent one of there supplied straight hangers 90 degres. On the left, IIRC I bent another supplied hanger but more of an "L" shape. You use the OEM screws if long enough or a 6mm x 25mm x 1.25. Regardless, it fits the 914 like a glove and does not protrude past the knee pad. I can list the part # but AFAIK it is the only unit the sell with a 10" depth. A little under $500 whenI bought it. |
Lo-Fi Version | Time is now: 8th June 2024 - 05:16 AM |
All rights reserved 914World.com © since 2002 |
914World.com is the fastest growing online 914 community! We have it all, classifieds, events, forums, vendors, parts, autocross, racing, technical articles, events calendar, newsletter, restoration, gallery, archives, history and more for your Porsche 914 ... |