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| rbzymek |
 Aug 7 2020, 06:46 PM
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Member  Group: Members Posts: 195 Joined: 5-April 19 From: Northville, MI Member No.: 23,013 Region Association: Upper MidWest 
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The oil temperature is on my 2056 is getting very close to the red zone with even moderate driving on an 80 degree day. I plan to use a Sandwich oil filter adapter type system.
The parts I prefer are: Derale Atomic Cool DER-15950 Plate and Fan along with Derale Temperature controlled Sandwich Adapter DER-15702 What do you have in your spares pile? Thanks in advance, Ray |
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| Dominic |
Aug 8 2020, 10:25 AM
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Dominic Group: Members Posts: 991 Joined: 14-January 03 From: Vacaville, CA Member No.: 149 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(rbzymek @ Aug 7 2020, 05:46 PM)  The oil temperature is on my 2056 is getting very close to the red zone with even moderate driving on an 80 degree day. I plan to use a Sandwich oil filter adapter type system. The parts I prefer are: Derale Atomic Cool DER-15950 Plate and Fan along with Derale Temperature controlled Sandwich Adapter DER-15702 What do you have in your spares pile? Thanks in advance, Ray Ray, Before you spend any $$ on an external oil cooler, make sure the outlets on the bottom of the fan shroud are not blocked (there are little aluminum flappers in there that can be stuck in the closed position), this can cause high oil temps as you are not getting the proper amount of air to flow through the stock oil cooler. Also need to ensure that the cooling flaps that direct air to the oil cooler are operating properly. I learned this many years ago with a 2.0L that we owned. Hope this helps, Dominic |
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| barefoot |
Aug 8 2020, 11:25 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,269 Joined: 19-March 13 From: Charleston SC Member No.: 15,673 Region Association: South East States
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I'm with Dominic, moderate driving in 80 deg days should not put you in oil temperature purgatory , look at your thermostat operation first.
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| rbzymek |
Aug 8 2020, 11:45 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 195 Joined: 5-April 19 From: Northville, MI Member No.: 23,013 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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It is my assumption that the aluminum flap valves allow air into the SSHE’s. If the blower is active they keep the flow through the heating system and not into the cooling housing. I replaced the thermostat when I installed the 2056 long block. I will check to make sure it is working. Thanks for the suggestion.
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| nditiz1 |
Aug 8 2020, 11:47 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,177 Joined: 26-May 15 From: Mount Airy, Maryland Member No.: 18,763 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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Do you have a CHT installed? My 2.0 would do this and it lead to a poor leakdown causing these hot temps. Might want to ensure the health of the engine first.
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| Montreal914 |
Aug 8 2020, 11:48 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,541 Joined: 8-August 10 From: Claremont, CA Member No.: 12,023 Region Association: Southern California
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I believe the OP has a 2056. This is not a stock 2l... Oil temperature could go up.
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| barefoot |
Aug 9 2020, 07:27 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,269 Joined: 19-March 13 From: Charleston SC Member No.: 15,673 Region Association: South East States
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QUOTE(Montreal914 @ Aug 8 2020, 01:48 PM) I believe the OP has a 2056. This is not a stock 2l... Oil temperature could go up. A 2056 is a very small change from stock 2L. My 2056 with carbs & cam with 8.5 to 1 CR oil temps never get above mid point on temp gauge with 95Deg outside temps. |
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| ottox914 |
Aug 9 2020, 08:40 AM
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The glory that once was. Group: Members Posts: 1,302 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Mahtomedi, MN Member No.: 1,438 Region Association: Upper MidWest  |
I got the parts for my oil cooler install from summit racing. Perhaps they have what you seek.
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| Al Meredith |
Aug 9 2020, 10:55 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 958 Joined: 4-November 04 From: Atlanta, ga Member No.: 3,061 |
I have a 2056 with carbs and a stock oil cooler in a 912E (heaver than a 914) and it Ok in Hot Atlanta
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| rbzymek |
Aug 9 2020, 01:49 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 195 Joined: 5-April 19 From: Northville, MI Member No.: 23,013 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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So I checked the thermostat and it appears to be working as designed.
Here it is cold.  Here it is hot. '  I also checked the timing and it was about 20 Deg BTDT instead of 28 Deg BTDC due to point wear. (Need to install the Petronix on the shelf.) Reset the timing ans saw no temp improvement. I still cruise at 55 in 5th and see the following on the gauge:  If I get on it I can push it to the red zone on a 80 degree day. I still need to make sure I have the correct sender. I still have the original 1.8 engine so I can use the old sender if needed. If the sender is correct I think I need an oil cooler so still looking for parts in case it goes that way. |
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| rbzymek |
Aug 10 2020, 08:56 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 195 Joined: 5-April 19 From: Northville, MI Member No.: 23,013 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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QUOTE(rbzymek @ Aug 9 2020, 01:49 PM) So I checked the thermostat and it appears to be working as designed. Here it is cold. Here it is hot. ' I also checked the timing and it was about 20 Deg BTDT instead of 28 Deg BTDC due to point wear. (Need to install the Petronix on the shelf.) Reset the timing ans saw no temp improvement. I still cruise at 55 in 5th and see the following on the gauge: If I get on it I can push it to the red zone on a 80 degree day. I still need to make sure I have the correct sender. I still have the original 1.8 engine so I can use the old sender if needed. If the sender is correct I think I need an oil cooler so still looking for parts in case it goes that way. Still looking for oil cooler parts....... |
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| barefoot |
Aug 10 2020, 01:49 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,269 Joined: 19-March 13 From: Charleston SC Member No.: 15,673 Region Association: South East States
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QUOTE(rbzymek @ Aug 9 2020, 03:49 PM) I still cruise at 55 in 5th and see the following on the gauge: If I get on it I can push it to the red zone on a 80 degree day. I still need to make sure I have the correct sender. I still have the original 1.8 engine so I can use the old sender if needed. If the sender is correct I think I need an oil cooler so still looking for parts in case it goes that way. The 75-76 without center console used a temp gauge built into the combo gage. the red zone is way further right. That's my gauge and indicator never gets past mid point. Pretty sure I've got the correct sender.  |
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| rbzymek |
Aug 13 2020, 06:42 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 195 Joined: 5-April 19 From: Northville, MI Member No.: 23,013 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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Cancel WTB. I bought the parts from Summit.
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