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> Colored hoses, Are they still available? Or has anyone tried dying a hose?
TonyA
post Aug 11 2020, 08:49 AM
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Maybe i ma crazy but are these available anywhere, or has anyone ever attempted to bleach and dye a hose?
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post Jan 18 2021, 04:37 PM
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out of interest, does anyone know if the 1.8s originally had coloured hoses.
or did they switch to uncoloured hoses with those?

i think, and i mean i think, because it could just be you want to see it, that the vacuum lines on my distributor looked vaguely green still, before i replaced them last year, but it might be because i wanted to see green. if it was there it was so faded it was grey i saw green in. the rest of the lines were faded grey. and as far as i remember even when i bought the car they were grey color (31 years ago). i don't think any lines were replaced before i got the car in 89. but again maybe my memory is wrong. coloured lines were not something i knew about back then. they might have been a very faded red i thought was grey.

red as a color in any form, paint etc, fades fastest of all colours.

as to availability off the shelf, when you go to porsche themselves, where we sourced the new replacement hoses, its just black (or dark grey) hose. we went to porsche to get them given we are in aus - turned out to be easiest and was surprisingly, good value.
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QUOTE(wonkipop @ Jan 18 2021, 05:37 PM) *

out of interest, does anyone know if the 1.8s originally had coloured hoses.
or did they switch to uncoloured hoses with those?

i think, and i mean i think, because it could just be you want to see it, that the vacuum lines on my distributor looked vaguely green still, before i replaced them last year, but it might be because i wanted to see green. if it was there it was so faded it was grey i saw green in. the rest of the lines were faded grey. and as far as i remember even when i bought the car they were grey color (31 years ago). i don't think any lines were replaced before i got the car in 89. but again maybe my memory is wrong. coloured lines were not something i knew about back then. they might have been a very faded red i thought was grey.

red as a color in any form, paint etc, fades fastest of all colours.

as to availability off the shelf, when you go to porsche themselves, where we sourced the new replacement hoses, its just black (or dark grey) hose. we went to porsche to get them given we are in aus - turned out to be easiest and was surprisingly, good value.

@wonkipop Being an original 1.8 owner, the only colored lines on mine are green, to/from the vacuum canister. No red hoses. If you'd like, I could post a pic.
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QUOTE(StarBear @ Jan 19 2021, 05:15 PM) *

QUOTE(wonkipop @ Jan 18 2021, 05:37 PM) *

out of interest, does anyone know if the 1.8s originally had coloured hoses.
or did they switch to uncoloured hoses with those?

i think, and i mean i think, because it could just be you want to see it, that the vacuum lines on my distributor looked vaguely green still, before i replaced them last year, but it might be because i wanted to see green. if it was there it was so faded it was grey i saw green in. the rest of the lines were faded grey. and as far as i remember even when i bought the car they were grey color (31 years ago). i don't think any lines were replaced before i got the car in 89. but again maybe my memory is wrong. coloured lines were not something i knew about back then. they might have been a very faded red i thought was grey.

red as a color in any form, paint etc, fades fastest of all colours.

as to availability off the shelf, when you go to porsche themselves, where we sourced the new replacement hoses, its just black (or dark grey) hose. we went to porsche to get them given we are in aus - turned out to be easiest and was surprisingly, good value.

@wonkipop Being an original 1.8 owner, the only colored lines on mine are green, to/from the vacuum canister. No red hoses. If you'd like, I could post a pic.


that would be great starbear, thanks mate.

yes, i've double checked mine and all i have is the one green line from the distributor, which we ended up keeping because porsche were unable to supply the size of hose.
i didn't realise but my mechanic cleaned it right up and checked it before he put it back on and its looking really green again.

but i have some other questions i will compose myself to ask specifically in relation to 1.8 vacuum hose arrangements and you might be the man to answer them.

wonki.
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QUOTE(wonkipop @ Jan 20 2021, 04:10 AM) *

QUOTE(StarBear @ Jan 19 2021, 05:15 PM) *

QUOTE(wonkipop @ Jan 18 2021, 05:37 PM) *

out of interest, does anyone know if the 1.8s originally had coloured hoses.
or did they switch to uncoloured hoses with those?

i think, and i mean i think, because it could just be you want to see it, that the vacuum lines on my distributor looked vaguely green still, before i replaced them last year, but it might be because i wanted to see green. if it was there it was so faded it was grey i saw green in. the rest of the lines were faded grey. and as far as i remember even when i bought the car they were grey color (31 years ago). i don't think any lines were replaced before i got the car in 89. but again maybe my memory is wrong. coloured lines were not something i knew about back then. they might have been a very faded red i thought was grey.

red as a color in any form, paint etc, fades fastest of all colours.

as to availability off the shelf, when you go to porsche themselves, where we sourced the new replacement hoses, its just black (or dark grey) hose. we went to porsche to get them given we are in aus - turned out to be easiest and was surprisingly, good value.

@wonkipop Being an original 1.8 owner, the only colored lines on mine are green, to/from the vacuum canister. No red hoses. If you'd like, I could post a pic.


that would be great starbear, thanks mate.

yes, i've double checked mine and all i have is the one green line from the distributor, which we ended up keeping because porsche were unable to supply the size of hose.
i didn't realise but my mechanic cleaned it right up and checked it before he put it back on and its looking really green again.

but i have some other questions i will compose myself to ask specifically in relation to 1.8 vacuum hose arrangements and you might be the man to answer them.

wonki.

@wonkipop I stand self-corrected; looks like I have two green hoses. The first is off the vacuum cannister (passenger side) going to the throttle body (front side); see photo. The second comes off the T branch into the air plenum; see photo. The first I'm sure of; the second may or may not have been swapped out just because I had that size hose. I've also attached my hose diagram; the first is Line 4, the second is Line 10. This diagram varies slightly from Jeff Bowlsby's and Automobile Atlanta's diagrams; perhaps as Porsche modified things throughout MY 74, probably for emissions, it seems like the hoses and layouts changed.
With this arrangement, "Frogger" has been running flawlessly; if anyone sees obvious error(s), just let me know - always willing to listen to those more expert than me!
Hope this helps!
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QUOTE(StarBear @ Jan 20 2021, 01:41 PM) *

QUOTE(wonkipop @ Jan 20 2021, 04:10 AM) *

QUOTE(StarBear @ Jan 19 2021, 05:15 PM) *

QUOTE(wonkipop @ Jan 18 2021, 05:37 PM) *

out of interest, does anyone know if the 1.8s originally had coloured hoses.
or did they switch to uncoloured hoses with those?

i think, and i mean i think, because it could just be you want to see it, that the vacuum lines on my distributor looked vaguely green still, before i replaced them last year, but it might be because i wanted to see green. if it was there it was so faded it was grey i saw green in. the rest of the lines were faded grey. and as far as i remember even when i bought the car they were grey color (31 years ago). i don't think any lines were replaced before i got the car in 89. but again maybe my memory is wrong. coloured lines were not something i knew about back then. they might have been a very faded red i thought was grey.

red as a color in any form, paint etc, fades fastest of all colours.

as to availability off the shelf, when you go to porsche themselves, where we sourced the new replacement hoses, its just black (or dark grey) hose. we went to porsche to get them given we are in aus - turned out to be easiest and was surprisingly, good value.

@wonkipop Being an original 1.8 owner, the only colored lines on mine are green, to/from the vacuum canister. No red hoses. If you'd like, I could post a pic.


that would be great starbear, thanks mate.

yes, i've double checked mine and all i have is the one green line from the distributor, which we ended up keeping because porsche were unable to supply the size of hose.
i didn't realise but my mechanic cleaned it right up and checked it before he put it back on and its looking really green again.

but i have some other questions i will compose myself to ask specifically in relation to 1.8 vacuum hose arrangements and you might be the man to answer them.

wonki.

@wonkipop I stand self-corrected; looks like I have two green hoses. The first is off the vacuum cannister (passenger side) going to the throttle body (front side); see photo. The second comes off the T branch into the air plenum; see photo. The first I'm sure of; the second may or may not have been swapped out just because I had that size hose. I've also attached my hose diagram; the first is Line 4, the second is Line 10. This diagram varies slightly from Jeff Bowlsby's and Automobile Atlanta's diagrams; perhaps as Porsche modified things throughout MY 74, probably for emissions, it seems like the hoses and layouts changed. PS: I have changed out the four air intake collars (Lines 13) since this I made the diagram!
With this arrangement, "Frogger" has been running flawlessly; if anyone sees obvious error(s), just let me know - always willing to listen to those more expert than me!
Hope this helps!
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TonyA   Colored hoses   Aug 11 2020, 08:49 AM
Dion   Tony, the only place I’ve ever seen have them ha...   Aug 13 2020, 05:00 AM
TonyA   Tony, the only place I’ve ever seen have them h...   Aug 13 2020, 07:23 PM
aturboman   Tony I have a roll each of original RED & GREE...   Aug 14 2020, 01:56 PM
TonyA   Tony I have a roll each of original RED & GRE...   Aug 14 2020, 03:26 PM
bbrock   Maybe i ma crazy but are these available anywhere...   Jan 18 2021, 10:27 AM
JeffBowlsby   OOooooh nice. Will you be taking orders for sets ...   Jan 18 2021, 10:37 AM
wonkipop   out of interest, does anyone know if the 1.8s orig...   Jan 18 2021, 04:37 PM
StarBear   out of interest, does anyone know if the 1.8s ori...   Jan 19 2021, 05:15 PM
wonkipop   [quote name='wonkipop' post='2883887' date='Jan 1...   Jan 20 2021, 03:10 AM
StarBear   [quote name='wonkipop' post='2883887' date='Jan ...   Jan 20 2021, 12:41 PM
StarBear   [quote name='wonkipop' post='2884296' date='Jan 2...   Jan 20 2021, 12:45 PM
bbrock   I stand self-corrected; looks like I have two gre...   Jan 21 2021, 08:46 AM
wonkipop   beaudy starbear. that info is great. i had an ear...   Jan 20 2021, 04:45 PM
StarBear   beaudy starbear. that info is great. i had an ea...   Jan 20 2021, 05:57 PM
StarBear   beaudy starbear. that info is great. i had an ea...   Jan 21 2021, 08:36 AM
StarBear   @wonkipop Here is a revised layout diagram, show...   Jan 21 2021, 11:51 AM
JeffBowlsby   [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s...   Jan 22 2021, 01:01 AM
wonkipop   i'm going to start a new topic on 1.8 hoses st...   Jan 21 2021, 02:24 PM
wonkipop   hmmm, its interesting. thats certainly true of the...   Jan 22 2021, 02:21 AM
StarBear   Ditto per @wonkipop; see my Virgo/Engineer evaluat...   Jan 22 2021, 09:34 AM
wonkipop   of interest re evap emissions plumbing. 73 beetle....   Jan 22 2021, 11:04 AM
wonkipop   researched this last year when replacing vacuum ho...   Jan 22 2021, 11:21 AM
wonkipop   re mr sb's thoughts on emissions engineering/w...   Jan 22 2021, 12:35 PM
wonkipop   74 emmission warranty material.   Jan 22 2021, 01:05 PM
StarBear   Wow; you da man @wonkipop ! So much to learn...   Jan 22 2021, 02:34 PM
wonkipop   i only know our cars starbear. i don't know an...   Jan 22 2021, 04:04 PM
wonkipop   vw technical booklet, date 1970. explains the evap...   Jan 22 2021, 04:16 PM
wonkipop   but this one is interesting. porsche evap emissio...   Jan 22 2021, 04:24 PM
JeffBowlsby   w-pop, StarBear, I think you have made some intere...   Jan 22 2021, 06:02 PM
wonkipop   interesting mr. b. i have a jan 74 build car. p...   Jan 22 2021, 06:45 PM
StarBear   All; I opened my cannister a few months ago to ref...   Jan 23 2021, 09:26 AM
StarBear   @DCheek IRRC, you have a 1.8L 914 and an origina...   Jan 23 2021, 12:46 PM
wonkipop   [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s...   Jan 23 2021, 11:50 PM
wonkipop   yes mr. sb. you can't find anything definitiv...   Jan 23 2021, 06:29 PM
wonkipop   a reasonably reputable 75 1.8 example. would say 9...   Jan 24 2021, 12:50 AM
StarBear   @wonkipop - You could write a research paper, for...   Jan 24 2021, 09:11 AM
StarBear   @dr914 @autoatlanta.com George - might you have an...   Jan 24 2021, 09:17 AM
StarBear   Another hose layout - presumably (?) a 74 1.8L wit...   Jan 24 2021, 09:49 AM
wonkipop   Evolution of the porsche evap system 1969-78 for 9...   Jan 24 2021, 02:23 PM
StarBear   :agree: Onward!   Jan 24 2021, 02:40 PM
wonkipop   something not in discussion so far is the 914/6. ...   Jan 25 2021, 05:07 PM
wonkipop   i took a look at the can in my 74 1.8 yesterday. i...   Jan 25 2021, 05:21 PM
JeffBowlsby   2 of the plastic cans in my inventory from 1974 2....   Jan 25 2021, 08:37 PM
wonkipop   its all pretty weird mr b. apologies about all th...   Jan 25 2021, 11:50 PM
wonkipop   a couple of guys have pulled the earlier metal can...   Jan 26 2021, 09:44 PM
bbrock   I pulled apart my metal canister and replaced the ...   Jan 27 2021, 03:37 PM
wonkipop   I pulled apart my metal canister and replaced the...   Jan 27 2021, 04:50 PM
bbrock   i'll be leaving mine alone i think. i have t...   Jan 28 2021, 09:05 AM
StarBear   i'll be leaving mine alone i think. i have ...   Jan 28 2021, 01:47 PM
JeffBowlsby   113.201.801A 69-73 (into early 1974) 914   Jan 27 2021, 04:03 PM
wonkipop   this is interesting mr. b. was in my files, a 2.0 ...   Jan 27 2021, 04:43 PM
Mark Henry   Is the hose sizes correct in the pic below, are th...   Feb 22 2021, 02:38 PM
StarBear   Is the hose sizes correct in the pic below, are t...   Feb 23 2021, 07:19 AM
JeffBowlsby   Here you go Mark, if you choose to use my hose dia...   Feb 25 2021, 03:18 AM
Mark Henry   Excellent! Thank you Jeff I have four 2.0 buil...   Feb 25 2021, 11:52 AM
StarBear   @wonkipop - getting more info. Do you know the ap...   Mar 18 2021, 03:11 PM
wonkipop   [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s...   Mar 22 2021, 01:37 AM
StarBear   Ok; here’s the best guesstimate. Counterflow hos...   Mar 24 2021, 11:12 AM
wonkipop   here is my view. the 914 is an argument between p...   Mar 25 2021, 02:34 AM
StarBear   Yeah. Think I’ll do something useful - like have...   Mar 25 2021, 02:58 PM
wonkipop   Yeah. Think I’ll do something useful - like hav...   Mar 25 2021, 07:11 PM
wonkipop   @StarBear found another 1.8 dr.914 has for sale...   Jul 3 2021, 07:08 PM
StarBear   Ah, more evidence that “we” are unique and spe...   Jul 3 2021, 08:52 PM
wonkipop   @StarBear - real special cars buddy. :beer1: o...   Jul 3 2021, 09:23 PM
rick 918-S   Bump :bump:   Sep 7 2021, 06:06 PM


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