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> Colored hoses, Are they still available? Or has anyone tried dying a hose?
TonyA
post Aug 11 2020, 08:49 AM
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Maybe i ma crazy but are these available anywhere, or has anyone ever attempted to bleach and dye a hose?
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post Jan 20 2021, 04:45 PM
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beaudy starbear.

that info is great.
i had an earlier diagram that mr. b made, but it did not match the layout in the car.

even this diagram you have posted shows incorrect (?) layout of hoses to charcoal cannister.
i've never changed the layout on mine and the layout matches the diagram in the emissions warranty that came with the handbook in the car. its about the only place they publish the emissions hose diagrams!?

the fan hose #1 enters the charcoal cannister from the lhs and the air cleaner hose #2 enters the charcoal cannister from the rhs along with the fuel tank vapor line #3.
i believe they changed the design of the charcoal cannister, possibly about the time they moved it into the engine bay on the 1.8. i've studied a lot of images of 1.8 engine bays in various states and those images agree with that layout too. my char. cannister is on the rear wall of the engine bay.

i have the green line out of the distributor on the rhs which then ducks under the intake plenum and heads off to the throttle body. its the only original line left on car now.
the other line was black out of the opposite side of dis. i checked with what came out of car. black too, but of course they could have been changed.

the decel valve lines were black as well, not green like yours. and have been replaced black. but mine could have been replaced at some point too.

i have got an interesting one though and i will post some images up later when i photograph the bits. and it will be around the decel valve. i think i had a red hose there or a brown hose. but its hard to tell. that hose was not like the others.
also the decel valve was floating around and not fixed or clipped. i will put that info up later. all of which point to maybe the decel valve having been replaced and a colored hose put in by a dealer or shop? and they never remounted the decel valve correctly?
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post Jan 21 2021, 08:36 AM
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QUOTE(wonkipop @ Jan 20 2021, 05:45 PM) *

beaudy starbear.

that info is great.
i had an earlier diagram that mr. b made, but it did not match the layout in the car.

even this diagram you have posted shows incorrect (?) layout of hoses to charcoal cannister.
i've never changed the layout on mine and the layout matches the diagram in the emissions warranty that came with the handbook in the car. its about the only place they publish the emissions hose diagrams!?

the fan hose #1 enters the charcoal cannister from the lhs and the air cleaner hose #2 enters the charcoal cannister from the rhs along with the fuel tank vapor line #3.
i believe they changed the design of the charcoal cannister, possibly about the time they moved it into the engine bay on the 1.8. i've studied a lot of images of 1.8 engine bays in various states and those images agree with that layout too. my char. cannister is on the rear wall of the engine bay.

i have the green line out of the distributor on the rhs which then ducks under the intake plenum and heads off to the throttle body. its the only original line left on car now.
the other line was black out of the opposite side of dis. i checked with what came out of car. black too, but of course they could have been changed.

the decel valve lines were black as well, not green like yours. and have been replaced black. but mine could have been replaced at some point too.

i have got an interesting one though and i will post some images up later when i photograph the bits. and it will be around the decel valve. i think i had a red hose there or a brown hose. but its hard to tell. that hose was not like the others.
also the decel valve was floating around and not fixed or clipped. i will put that info up later. all of which point to maybe the decel valve having been replaced and a colored hose put in by a dealer or shop? and they never remounted the decel valve correctly?

@wonkipop You are so correct! The charcoal cannister lines in my car don't match the diagram; Line 1 goes to the air cleaner and Line 2 goes to the fan shroud. So, the question is, is the diagram wrong or is my setup wrong? Looked in the user manual (original) and didn't see the aforementioned emissions warranty diagram - could you post a pic?
Fortunately, I don't think it makes much difference in operation as the cannister isn't directional (opened and replaced the charcoal a few months ago), but would like to have it physically correct. If it makes a difference, my VIN ends in 9760; body produced Nov 73, car assembled April or May 74.
Thanks! SB
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TonyA   Colored hoses   Aug 11 2020, 08:49 AM
Dion   Tony, the only place I’ve ever seen have them ha...   Aug 13 2020, 05:00 AM
TonyA   Tony, the only place I’ve ever seen have them h...   Aug 13 2020, 07:23 PM
aturboman   Tony I have a roll each of original RED & GREE...   Aug 14 2020, 01:56 PM
TonyA   Tony I have a roll each of original RED & GRE...   Aug 14 2020, 03:26 PM
bbrock   Maybe i ma crazy but are these available anywhere...   Jan 18 2021, 10:27 AM
JeffBowlsby   OOooooh nice. Will you be taking orders for sets ...   Jan 18 2021, 10:37 AM
wonkipop   out of interest, does anyone know if the 1.8s orig...   Jan 18 2021, 04:37 PM
StarBear   out of interest, does anyone know if the 1.8s ori...   Jan 19 2021, 05:15 PM
wonkipop   [quote name='wonkipop' post='2883887' date='Jan 1...   Jan 20 2021, 03:10 AM
StarBear   [quote name='wonkipop' post='2883887' date='Jan ...   Jan 20 2021, 12:41 PM
StarBear   [quote name='wonkipop' post='2884296' date='Jan 2...   Jan 20 2021, 12:45 PM
bbrock   I stand self-corrected; looks like I have two gre...   Jan 21 2021, 08:46 AM
wonkipop   beaudy starbear. that info is great. i had an ear...   Jan 20 2021, 04:45 PM
StarBear   beaudy starbear. that info is great. i had an ea...   Jan 20 2021, 05:57 PM
StarBear   beaudy starbear. that info is great. i had an ea...   Jan 21 2021, 08:36 AM
StarBear   @wonkipop Here is a revised layout diagram, show...   Jan 21 2021, 11:51 AM
JeffBowlsby   [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s...   Jan 22 2021, 01:01 AM
wonkipop   i'm going to start a new topic on 1.8 hoses st...   Jan 21 2021, 02:24 PM
wonkipop   hmmm, its interesting. thats certainly true of the...   Jan 22 2021, 02:21 AM
StarBear   Ditto per @wonkipop; see my Virgo/Engineer evaluat...   Jan 22 2021, 09:34 AM
wonkipop   of interest re evap emissions plumbing. 73 beetle....   Jan 22 2021, 11:04 AM
wonkipop   researched this last year when replacing vacuum ho...   Jan 22 2021, 11:21 AM
wonkipop   re mr sb's thoughts on emissions engineering/w...   Jan 22 2021, 12:35 PM
wonkipop   74 emmission warranty material.   Jan 22 2021, 01:05 PM
StarBear   Wow; you da man @wonkipop ! So much to learn...   Jan 22 2021, 02:34 PM
wonkipop   i only know our cars starbear. i don't know an...   Jan 22 2021, 04:04 PM
wonkipop   vw technical booklet, date 1970. explains the evap...   Jan 22 2021, 04:16 PM
wonkipop   but this one is interesting. porsche evap emissio...   Jan 22 2021, 04:24 PM
JeffBowlsby   w-pop, StarBear, I think you have made some intere...   Jan 22 2021, 06:02 PM
wonkipop   interesting mr. b. i have a jan 74 build car. p...   Jan 22 2021, 06:45 PM
StarBear   All; I opened my cannister a few months ago to ref...   Jan 23 2021, 09:26 AM
StarBear   @DCheek IRRC, you have a 1.8L 914 and an origina...   Jan 23 2021, 12:46 PM
wonkipop   [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s...   Jan 23 2021, 11:50 PM
wonkipop   yes mr. sb. you can't find anything definitiv...   Jan 23 2021, 06:29 PM
wonkipop   a reasonably reputable 75 1.8 example. would say 9...   Jan 24 2021, 12:50 AM
StarBear   @wonkipop - You could write a research paper, for...   Jan 24 2021, 09:11 AM
StarBear   @dr914 @autoatlanta.com George - might you have an...   Jan 24 2021, 09:17 AM
StarBear   Another hose layout - presumably (?) a 74 1.8L wit...   Jan 24 2021, 09:49 AM
wonkipop   Evolution of the porsche evap system 1969-78 for 9...   Jan 24 2021, 02:23 PM
StarBear   :agree: Onward!   Jan 24 2021, 02:40 PM
wonkipop   something not in discussion so far is the 914/6. ...   Jan 25 2021, 05:07 PM
wonkipop   i took a look at the can in my 74 1.8 yesterday. i...   Jan 25 2021, 05:21 PM
JeffBowlsby   2 of the plastic cans in my inventory from 1974 2....   Jan 25 2021, 08:37 PM
wonkipop   its all pretty weird mr b. apologies about all th...   Jan 25 2021, 11:50 PM
wonkipop   a couple of guys have pulled the earlier metal can...   Jan 26 2021, 09:44 PM
bbrock   I pulled apart my metal canister and replaced the ...   Jan 27 2021, 03:37 PM
wonkipop   I pulled apart my metal canister and replaced the...   Jan 27 2021, 04:50 PM
bbrock   i'll be leaving mine alone i think. i have t...   Jan 28 2021, 09:05 AM
StarBear   i'll be leaving mine alone i think. i have ...   Jan 28 2021, 01:47 PM
JeffBowlsby   113.201.801A 69-73 (into early 1974) 914   Jan 27 2021, 04:03 PM
wonkipop   this is interesting mr. b. was in my files, a 2.0 ...   Jan 27 2021, 04:43 PM
Mark Henry   Is the hose sizes correct in the pic below, are th...   Feb 22 2021, 02:38 PM
StarBear   Is the hose sizes correct in the pic below, are t...   Feb 23 2021, 07:19 AM
JeffBowlsby   Here you go Mark, if you choose to use my hose dia...   Feb 25 2021, 03:18 AM
Mark Henry   Excellent! Thank you Jeff I have four 2.0 buil...   Feb 25 2021, 11:52 AM
StarBear   @wonkipop - getting more info. Do you know the ap...   Mar 18 2021, 03:11 PM
wonkipop   [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s...   Mar 22 2021, 01:37 AM
StarBear   Ok; here’s the best guesstimate. Counterflow hos...   Mar 24 2021, 11:12 AM
wonkipop   here is my view. the 914 is an argument between p...   Mar 25 2021, 02:34 AM
StarBear   Yeah. Think I’ll do something useful - like have...   Mar 25 2021, 02:58 PM
wonkipop   Yeah. Think I’ll do something useful - like hav...   Mar 25 2021, 07:11 PM
wonkipop   @StarBear found another 1.8 dr.914 has for sale...   Jul 3 2021, 07:08 PM
StarBear   Ah, more evidence that “we” are unique and spe...   Jul 3 2021, 08:52 PM
wonkipop   @StarBear - real special cars buddy. :beer1: o...   Jul 3 2021, 09:23 PM
rick 918-S   Bump :bump:   Sep 7 2021, 06:06 PM


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