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> Colored hoses, Are they still available? Or has anyone tried dying a hose?
TonyA
post Aug 11 2020, 08:49 AM
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Maybe i ma crazy but are these available anywhere, or has anyone ever attempted to bleach and dye a hose?
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post Mar 25 2021, 02:34 AM
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here is my view.

the 914 is an argument between porsche and vw.
from the get go.

short version -
no one ever knew who had a big hand in styling it. until recently. why?
A. Piech had a big hand in engineering it (i think that is generally accepted and thank god because its brilliant in engineering terms --- BRILLIANT), and in family terms he was in a head butt with F A Porsche in the 1960s. A P had tickets on himself back then - and history has proved why he had those tickets on himself. he was up against the owners son. the son v the cousin. in the end you could say Piech won - but that was at the end of their lives.
On top of that the old dad got screwed in a deal with the incoming VW pres. etc.
all shrouded in mystery until recently because for many years the story could never be told because that would mean reciting a family business deal over the dinner table with Nordoff married to one of the sisters etc that went wrong when he died prematurely.
The poor old 914 is shrouded in family tangles right when its ready to come out.

in short its a car produced with a gentleman's agreement that gets launched over an argument.

the way you resolve an argument is you go.......
you do it your way with your cars and we do it our way with our cars.
and they just split it when it came to emissions set up?
amongst many other agreed compromises.......because its kind of semi-hostile.

VW did it their way in the 4s that came out of the karmann factory in osnabruck from the get go?
thats my "controversial" statement.
and porsche did it their way with the 6s, which were plumbed up at their factory in stuttgart.

even the owners manuals are interesting - they are printed by porsche and not by vw. how reliable is the information in them. are they transmitting info correctly. though we do know that it changes in the emissions warranty from 73 to 74.
and i would not be so quick to dismiss that as a misprint.
because porsche are always in charge of printing the owners manual.
so its going to have their version?
until about the time they change their version?

but the 2.0 L 4s might have been under porsche control. the engine was developed after all by porsche, even though it was a VW basis. i can see evidence they are plumbed the porsche way.

its easy to prove how the 74 1.8s were plumbed when the can was in the engine bay.
i have an original car and i know its right.
and it corresponds to other cars. including yours starbear. and the one sitting around in dr. 914s collection and numerous others.

what i would want to see is a rigorous proof of exactly how the earlier 1.7s and 1.8s are plumbed with the front can. my money is on the VW way. its a hunch. you have to follow the hoses through to the front of the car. and you need an original car to do it with.

history is interesting.

i'm going with the idea that porsche wanted it one way and vw the other.
the big hint is in how 911s were plumbed early on. opposite to VW.


who knows which version actually works the best.
but it is interesting that porsche give up on their version with the 911 and go VW.
whereas VW in all their cars never change their tune.
it could be scientific.
or it could just be german pig headeness?
or neither of them were actually right and the fan blown can was just not such a great idea anyway?
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TonyA   Colored hoses   Aug 11 2020, 08:49 AM
Dion   Tony, the only place I’ve ever seen have them ha...   Aug 13 2020, 05:00 AM
TonyA   Tony, the only place I’ve ever seen have them h...   Aug 13 2020, 07:23 PM
aturboman   Tony I have a roll each of original RED & GREE...   Aug 14 2020, 01:56 PM
TonyA   Tony I have a roll each of original RED & GRE...   Aug 14 2020, 03:26 PM
bbrock   Maybe i ma crazy but are these available anywhere...   Jan 18 2021, 10:27 AM
JeffBowlsby   OOooooh nice. Will you be taking orders for sets ...   Jan 18 2021, 10:37 AM
wonkipop   out of interest, does anyone know if the 1.8s orig...   Jan 18 2021, 04:37 PM
StarBear   out of interest, does anyone know if the 1.8s ori...   Jan 19 2021, 05:15 PM
wonkipop   [quote name='wonkipop' post='2883887' date='Jan 1...   Jan 20 2021, 03:10 AM
StarBear   [quote name='wonkipop' post='2883887' date='Jan ...   Jan 20 2021, 12:41 PM
StarBear   [quote name='wonkipop' post='2884296' date='Jan 2...   Jan 20 2021, 12:45 PM
bbrock   I stand self-corrected; looks like I have two gre...   Jan 21 2021, 08:46 AM
wonkipop   beaudy starbear. that info is great. i had an ear...   Jan 20 2021, 04:45 PM
StarBear   beaudy starbear. that info is great. i had an ea...   Jan 20 2021, 05:57 PM
StarBear   beaudy starbear. that info is great. i had an ea...   Jan 21 2021, 08:36 AM
StarBear   @wonkipop Here is a revised layout diagram, show...   Jan 21 2021, 11:51 AM
JeffBowlsby   [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s...   Jan 22 2021, 01:01 AM
wonkipop   i'm going to start a new topic on 1.8 hoses st...   Jan 21 2021, 02:24 PM
wonkipop   hmmm, its interesting. thats certainly true of the...   Jan 22 2021, 02:21 AM
StarBear   Ditto per @wonkipop; see my Virgo/Engineer evaluat...   Jan 22 2021, 09:34 AM
wonkipop   of interest re evap emissions plumbing. 73 beetle....   Jan 22 2021, 11:04 AM
wonkipop   researched this last year when replacing vacuum ho...   Jan 22 2021, 11:21 AM
wonkipop   re mr sb's thoughts on emissions engineering/w...   Jan 22 2021, 12:35 PM
wonkipop   74 emmission warranty material.   Jan 22 2021, 01:05 PM
StarBear   Wow; you da man @wonkipop ! So much to learn...   Jan 22 2021, 02:34 PM
wonkipop   i only know our cars starbear. i don't know an...   Jan 22 2021, 04:04 PM
wonkipop   vw technical booklet, date 1970. explains the evap...   Jan 22 2021, 04:16 PM
wonkipop   but this one is interesting. porsche evap emissio...   Jan 22 2021, 04:24 PM
JeffBowlsby   w-pop, StarBear, I think you have made some intere...   Jan 22 2021, 06:02 PM
wonkipop   interesting mr. b. i have a jan 74 build car. p...   Jan 22 2021, 06:45 PM
StarBear   All; I opened my cannister a few months ago to ref...   Jan 23 2021, 09:26 AM
StarBear   @DCheek IRRC, you have a 1.8L 914 and an origina...   Jan 23 2021, 12:46 PM
wonkipop   [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s...   Jan 23 2021, 11:50 PM
wonkipop   yes mr. sb. you can't find anything definitiv...   Jan 23 2021, 06:29 PM
wonkipop   a reasonably reputable 75 1.8 example. would say 9...   Jan 24 2021, 12:50 AM
StarBear   @wonkipop - You could write a research paper, for...   Jan 24 2021, 09:11 AM
StarBear   @dr914 @autoatlanta.com George - might you have an...   Jan 24 2021, 09:17 AM
StarBear   Another hose layout - presumably (?) a 74 1.8L wit...   Jan 24 2021, 09:49 AM
wonkipop   Evolution of the porsche evap system 1969-78 for 9...   Jan 24 2021, 02:23 PM
StarBear   :agree: Onward!   Jan 24 2021, 02:40 PM
wonkipop   something not in discussion so far is the 914/6. ...   Jan 25 2021, 05:07 PM
wonkipop   i took a look at the can in my 74 1.8 yesterday. i...   Jan 25 2021, 05:21 PM
JeffBowlsby   2 of the plastic cans in my inventory from 1974 2....   Jan 25 2021, 08:37 PM
wonkipop   its all pretty weird mr b. apologies about all th...   Jan 25 2021, 11:50 PM
wonkipop   a couple of guys have pulled the earlier metal can...   Jan 26 2021, 09:44 PM
bbrock   I pulled apart my metal canister and replaced the ...   Jan 27 2021, 03:37 PM
wonkipop   I pulled apart my metal canister and replaced the...   Jan 27 2021, 04:50 PM
bbrock   i'll be leaving mine alone i think. i have t...   Jan 28 2021, 09:05 AM
StarBear   i'll be leaving mine alone i think. i have ...   Jan 28 2021, 01:47 PM
JeffBowlsby   113.201.801A 69-73 (into early 1974) 914   Jan 27 2021, 04:03 PM
wonkipop   this is interesting mr. b. was in my files, a 2.0 ...   Jan 27 2021, 04:43 PM
Mark Henry   Is the hose sizes correct in the pic below, are th...   Feb 22 2021, 02:38 PM
StarBear   Is the hose sizes correct in the pic below, are t...   Feb 23 2021, 07:19 AM
JeffBowlsby   Here you go Mark, if you choose to use my hose dia...   Feb 25 2021, 03:18 AM
Mark Henry   Excellent! Thank you Jeff I have four 2.0 buil...   Feb 25 2021, 11:52 AM
StarBear   @wonkipop - getting more info. Do you know the ap...   Mar 18 2021, 03:11 PM
wonkipop   [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s...   Mar 22 2021, 01:37 AM
StarBear   Ok; here’s the best guesstimate. Counterflow hos...   Mar 24 2021, 11:12 AM
wonkipop   here is my view. the 914 is an argument between p...   Mar 25 2021, 02:34 AM
StarBear   Yeah. Think I’ll do something useful - like have...   Mar 25 2021, 02:58 PM
wonkipop   Yeah. Think I’ll do something useful - like hav...   Mar 25 2021, 07:11 PM
wonkipop   @StarBear found another 1.8 dr.914 has for sale...   Jul 3 2021, 07:08 PM
StarBear   Ah, more evidence that “we” are unique and spe...   Jul 3 2021, 08:52 PM
wonkipop   @StarBear - real special cars buddy. :beer1: o...   Jul 3 2021, 09:23 PM
rick 918-S   Bump :bump:   Sep 7 2021, 06:06 PM


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