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Not_A_Six
post Aug 12 2020, 04:00 PM
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I have a '73 2.0 with stock d-jet, and have struggled for years with idle issues that I suspected were related to the NLA OEM PCV valve. I've finally come up with a solution that fixed the various problems and wanted to share here in the hopes that it may help somebody else down the line.

My engine is now 2056cc with a Webcam 73 cam. But, my idle problems plagued me even when the engine was previously stock. The original PCV had worn so that it flowed more air than it should when "open", and was sticky as well, causing inconsistent airflow. I tried to purchase a replacement, but had no luck both here and via the usual online vendors. I also tried cleaning the one I had several times, but to no avail.

Before anybody shouts "vacuum leaks", I thought the same for a long time. But, I've now completely rebuilt the engine and have replaced every hose, tested every component by pulling vacuums, and finally did a smoke test to confirm that there are no vac leaks. It was the old PCV valve along.

The problems that the old valve caused were:

1) It flowed too much air to get the idle speed below about 1500 rpm without very retarded idle timing helped by vacuum retard from the distributor. (I have a 123Ignition distributor, and one must choose between vacuum retard at idle (e.g. with profile "A"), or vacuum advance at light load (e.g. with profile "1")). For anyone interested, details on the 123 issues can be found here:

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act...=2&t=347291

2) The inconsistent flow thru the PCV caused the idle to be correspondingly inconsistent regardless of what other adjustments were made to timing, idle screw, air-fuel mix, etc. Sometimes it would idle high, sometimes it would idle low.

From @pbanders excellent resource:

https://members.rennlist.com/pbanders/PCV.htm

"Porsche used a PCV valve on some 1.7L and 2.0L D-Jetronic engines, mostly in the 1973 and 1974 models. Early 1.7L and late (1975 and 1976) 2.0L engines did not have a PCV valve, and the crankcase breather on the oil filler was connected to the air box."

Indeed, I experimented with connecting the PCV valve to the airbox as above, and it did "fix" my idle problems. But, I didn't want to sacrifice the crankcase scavenging that a properly operating and plumbed PCV would provide.

The solution I finally came up with (again taking a cue from pbanders), was to adapt a modern, readily available PCV valve to the car. This provides apparently similar airflow as stock at high engine loads (low vacuum), and lower airflow than stock at idle (high vacuum). If you try this, you'll likely need to adjust the idle screw on the throttle body to compensate for the reduced flow.

The components I used are as follows:

PCV Valve: Microgard PCV 279 (cross for FRAM FV279) which is a generic valve for a 1990 Toyota Corolla

Grommet: dormanproducts.com p/n 42057 PCV Grommet (cross for Toyota 90480-18180)

The grommet fits the hole perfectly in the 914 breather box. The nipple on the valve is around 11mm diameter, which is a bit too small for the 13mm PCV hose (or elbow) on the 914. I currently just have the nipple on the valve wrapped with electrical tape to size it up to 13mm, but I plan to fit a proper adapter to size down the 13mm hose and connect directly to the valve. I suppose I could also fit the original elbow, but plan to just leave the hose exiting the valve vertically.

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I hope that somebody may find this useful. Comments are welcome and appreciated.

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Not_A_Six   PCV Solution   Aug 12 2020, 04:00 PM
IronHillRestorations   Excellent!   Aug 12 2020, 05:14 PM
bbrock   Added to my important bookmarks. Thanks! :bee...   Aug 12 2020, 05:51 PM
bob164   You can use "adhesive lined shrink tubing...   Aug 12 2020, 06:16 PM
Not_A_Six   You can use "adhesive lined shrink tubing...   Aug 12 2020, 06:27 PM
Not_A_Six   *** UPDATE *** So, the electrical tape didn't...   Aug 20 2020, 04:54 PM
DRPHIL914   do you still have the hose on the pvc going to air...   Aug 12 2020, 06:57 PM
Not_A_Six   do you still have the hose on the pvc going to ai...   Aug 12 2020, 07:33 PM
DRPHIL914   i ordered them and were delivered today. i have no...   Aug 16 2020, 07:13 PM
Not_A_Six   i ordered them and were delivered today. i have n...   Aug 16 2020, 09:47 PM
DRPHIL914   i ordered them and were delivered today. i have ...   Aug 17 2020, 09:07 AM
Not_A_Six   :blink: :idea: can anyone else explain why pl...   Aug 17 2020, 01:13 PM
DRPHIL914   :blink: :idea: can anyone else explain why p...   Aug 17 2020, 06:25 PM
Richard McLeod   Very helpful and a cheap fix. PCV valve ($1.9...   Aug 16 2020, 06:26 PM
Not_A_Six   Very helpful and a cheap fix. PCV valve ($1....   Aug 16 2020, 06:50 PM
DRPHIL914   BTW that was a big puddle before i soaked it up, a...   Aug 18 2020, 06:53 AM
Not_A_Six   BTW that was a big puddle before i soaked it up, ...   Aug 18 2020, 08:00 AM
DRPHIL914   BTW that was a big puddle before i soaked it up,...   Aug 18 2020, 12:40 PM
Not_A_Six   of course all disclaimers understood, 2 things, ...   Aug 18 2020, 12:50 PM
JOEPROPER   On the 75 there is no PCV valve. The oil fill box...   Aug 18 2020, 01:21 PM
porschetub   Interesting :idea: ,maybe that valve is designed t...   Aug 18 2020, 03:42 PM
Not_A_Six   Interesting :idea: ,maybe that valve is designed ...   Aug 18 2020, 04:59 PM
porschetub   Interesting :idea: ,maybe that valve is designed...   Aug 18 2020, 06:22 PM
Bleyseng   I have a good used one if you want to test it.   Aug 21 2020, 11:16 AM
Not_A_Six   I have a good used one if you want to test it. ...   Aug 21 2020, 05:18 PM
pbanders   More excellent work, this time, on the PCV. For qu...   May 21 2021, 04:00 PM
Not_A_Six   More excellent work, this time, on the PCV. For q...   Sep 7 2021, 05:06 PM
Not_A_Six   More excellent work, this time, on the PCV. For q...   Sep 7 2021, 05:07 PM
pbanders   As I say, "you can never have too many spare ...   Apr 27 2022, 05:43 PM
emerygt350   As I say, "you can never have too many spare...   Apr 27 2022, 06:49 PM
pbanders   [quote name='pbanders' post='2998214' date='Apr 2...   May 7 2022, 12:08 AM
Lockwodo   I have a '73 2.0 with stock d-jet, and have s...   May 6 2022, 08:18 PM
Highland   Wondering if anyone has used this pcv without the ...   Sep 13 2022, 06:58 PM
JamesM   Wondering if anyone has used this pcv without the...   Sep 21 2022, 08:02 PM


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