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Use this for a jackstand based engine install? |
Tdskip |
Sep 8 2020, 07:41 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,686 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
Last engine swap I did I had access to a lift which made it easy. This next time I’m going to be “stuck “using jackstands to get the car in the air, and I’m wondering if this would be a good way of raising the engine/transmission to be mounted?
Assume the car should be as high up as safe and level? Thanks and hope it was a good long weekend. |
mepstein |
Sep 8 2020, 07:49 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,316 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
They work well for 911 instal and removals. Because the engine and trans and balance point are further towards the center of the 914, they don't work as easily but they are fine if you unscrew the handle so the table can roll further forward and under the car. You can still use it with the handle detached.
Grab a 20-25% off coupon and get one. You will wonder why you didn't buy one earlier. |
Tdskip |
Sep 8 2020, 08:18 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,686 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
Thanks Mark, I already did and can’t imagine not having one in the garage. I bought it to disassemble the 2.7 Frankenstein-engine but honestly it didn’t click about using it to install.
Probably obvious to everyone but me. Thanks for the confirmation and tips on balancing. Hope the shop is busy! |
johnhora |
Sep 8 2020, 08:25 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 867 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Derby City KY Member No.: 107 Region Association: None |
Tdskip...
It has worked well for 914-6 I fixed the handle problem by turning around/flipping the handle base mount on each side. It's only 4 bolts to remove and reinstall. This makes it so the handle will lay down flat which helps centering the lift under the 914. The release works fine in that position. |
nditiz1 |
Sep 8 2020, 08:55 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,191 Joined: 26-May 15 From: Mount Airy, Maryland Member No.: 18,763 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I literally just bought this two days ago so I can run the 6 engine on the cart before installing. Mark is right, not sure why I didn't buy this sooner.
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thelogo |
Sep 8 2020, 09:32 AM
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Senior Member Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,510 Joined: 6-April 10 Member No.: 11,572 Region Association: None |
Sir Keith use's this and it works like a charm
But im a little suprised as the replys to this thread is a whos who of teener owner . That no one has mentioned although this is a great product I highly recommend you never ever Trust any harbor freight product to support any weight using hydrolic preessure or jack stands As you are bound to be disappointment Or seriously injured/killed Like the product but not the supplier Do not ever trust (or endorce)h.f. products Of any kind to support or hold load bearing compasity Its extremly bad judgement. ! Expect their stuff to fail or it could be your ass When i built my grooming van i used pre owned honda generators that cost about 2x as much used as h.f generators cost new . because when im out there working my ass off . i need reliablity. And i want a good reputation Even know I could have got h.f generators brand new with warranty for half the price |
bdstone914 |
Sep 8 2020, 09:43 AM
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bdstone914 Group: Members Posts: 4,537 Joined: 8-November 03 From: Riverside CA Member No.: 1,319 |
I have the Tangerine plate that you can borrow to install the engine trans. Remind me tomorrow.
With that lift the car would have to be even higher to get the drive train installed. |
VaccaRabite |
Sep 8 2020, 10:34 AM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,465 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Yeah I prefer the Tangerine plate. It also has a cutout for a tuna can if you have one of those on your engine (which I do).
Zach |
mepstein |
Sep 8 2020, 10:44 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,316 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
The shop where I used to work has used the HF lift tables for years for 911 engine and trans drops. They have six of them. None have ever failed. They just buy more because they are so useful. That’s about 600-700 lbs on a 3.6 with trans. I’m betting there is no difference in the hydraulic cylinder from harbor freight compared to any others. Use what you feel comfortable with but know that most of what differentiates different brands is only the name and the price.
The tangerine plate is excellent, but only works on a four cylinder. |
gms |
Sep 8 2020, 11:02 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,695 Joined: 12-March 04 From: Chicagoland Member No.: 1,785 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
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thelogo |
Sep 8 2020, 11:45 AM
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Senior Member Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,510 Joined: 6-April 10 Member No.: 11,572 Region Association: None |
The shop where I used to work has used the HF lift tables for years for 911 engine and trans drops. They have six of them. None have ever failed. They just buy more because they are so useful. That’s about 600-700 lbs on a 3.6 with trans. I’m betting there is no difference in the hydraulic cylinder from harbor freight compared to any others. Use what you feel comfortable with but know that most of what differentiates different brands is only the name and the price. The tangerine plate is excellent, but only works on a four cylinder. I get it but You know in the back of youre mind That its bound to fail (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif) Stop supporting and pumping money thru China.yeh its cheaper But can we be big picture guys ...or what Were our own worst enemy's ! (political content deleted - ADMIN) Rants over. Dead horse beaten |
Tdskip |
Sep 8 2020, 04:40 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,686 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
Build a table with casters that will hold 2000ish lbs, put engine on table, put car on your lift, slide table with engine under car and lower car onto engine...easy peasy Yes - as I said that is how I did it last time but don’t have a lift for this one. Nice table, bet that is super handy. Engine looks tasty! I’ll be careful with the table but not overly worries about it. |
mepstein |
Sep 8 2020, 05:20 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,316 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Build a table with casters that will hold 2000ish lbs, put engine on table, put car on your lift, slide table with engine under car and lower car onto engine...easy peasy Yes - as I said that is how I did it last time but don’t have a lift for this one. Nice table, bet that is super handy. Engine looks tasty! I’ll be careful with the table but not overly worries about it. I try not to stick my limbs through the mechanism so if it did fail, not much would happen other than the engine settling to the floor. Of all the things I do, the lift table is low on the list. Setting up metal stairs by myself... Attached thumbnail(s) |
ClayPerrine |
Sep 8 2020, 05:28 PM
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Life's been good to me so far..... Group: Admin Posts: 15,523 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
Since I have a lift, I put the car on the lift and the engine on jackstands underneath. I use a plumb bob to align the motor and trans mounts with the chassis. Then I slowly and carefully lower the car on to the motor. Once the mounts are close enough, I bolt up the engine and trans to the body. Then I lift everything back up and hook up all the bits and pieces.
The only hard part is crawling under the car to bolt up the engine and trans mounts. The front mounts are definitely easier on a -4 than a -6. |
Front yard mechanic |
Sep 8 2020, 06:38 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,172 Joined: 23-July 15 From: New Mexico Member No.: 18,984 Region Association: None |
The shop where I used to work has used the HF lift tables for years for 911 engine and trans drops. They have six of them. None have ever failed. They just buy more because they are so useful. That’s about 600-700 lbs on a 3.6 with trans. I’m betting there is no difference in the hydraulic cylinder from harbor freight compared to any others. Use what you feel comfortable with but know that most of what differentiates different brands is only the name and the price. The tangerine plate is excellent, but only works on a four cylinder. I get it but You know in the back of youre mind That its bound to fail (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif) Stop supporting and pumping money thru China.yeh its cheaper But can we be big picture guys ...or what Were our own worst enemy's ! Rants over. Dead horse beaten |
IronHillRestorations |
Sep 8 2020, 07:09 PM
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I. I. R. C. Group: Members Posts: 6,731 Joined: 18-March 03 From: West TN Member No.: 439 Region Association: None |
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ri914 |
Sep 8 2020, 07:12 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 102 Joined: 13-August 20 From: rhode island Member No.: 24,593 Region Association: North East States |
there are some funny replies on this thread and some scary ones (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
my 2 cents... never trust anything. any hydraulic item can fail. just be cautious and always have a backup safety plan. Never put your body in harms way. I like the table option and the plumb trick is simple and great. I would suggest cutting any HF number in half to add some addtional safety. They make a 2k transmission jack that allows you to bolt the engine/trans to it safely. Use a 20% off coupon and its a great dedicated 914 engine jack. Just be safe and always plan for the worst to happen so you dont get hurt. |
Gint |
Sep 8 2020, 07:30 PM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,083 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Last engine swap I did I had access to a lift which made it easy. This next time I’m going to be “stuck “using jackstands to get the car in the air, and I’m wondering if this would be a good way of raising the engine/transmission to be mounted? Assume the car should be as high up as safe and level? Thanks and hope it was a good long weekend. What's the max height on that? |
bkrantz |
Sep 8 2020, 07:39 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,804 Joined: 3-August 19 From: SW Colorado Member No.: 23,343 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I got one of these--very happy with it.
https://www.harborfreight.com/1500-lb-alumi...lift-63397.html Attached thumbnail(s) |
Gint |
Sep 8 2020, 07:41 PM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,083 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I like that larger platform on the lift cart. Considering something like that for a Boxster engine/trans and the table is a larger platform.
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