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> Use this for a jackstand based engine install?
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post Sep 8 2020, 07:41 AM
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Last engine swap I did I had access to a lift which made it easy. This next time I’m going to be “stuck “using jackstands to get the car in the air, and I’m wondering if this would be a good way of raising the engine/transmission to be mounted?

Assume the car should be as high up as safe and level?

Thanks and hope it was a good long weekend.

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post Sep 8 2020, 07:49 AM
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They work well for 911 instal and removals. Because the engine and trans and balance point are further towards the center of the 914, they don't work as easily but they are fine if you unscrew the handle so the table can roll further forward and under the car. You can still use it with the handle detached.

Grab a 20-25% off coupon and get one. You will wonder why you didn't buy one earlier.
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post Sep 8 2020, 08:18 AM
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Thanks Mark, I already did and can’t imagine not having one in the garage. I bought it to disassemble the 2.7 Frankenstein-engine but honestly it didn’t click about using it to install.

Probably obvious to everyone but me.

Thanks for the confirmation and tips on balancing. Hope the shop is busy!
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post Sep 8 2020, 08:25 AM
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Tdskip...
It has worked well for 914-6
I fixed the handle problem by turning around/flipping the handle base mount on each side. It's only 4 bolts to remove and reinstall.
This makes it so the handle will lay down flat which helps centering the lift under the 914.
The release works fine in that position.
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post Sep 8 2020, 08:55 AM
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I literally just bought this two days ago so I can run the 6 engine on the cart before installing. Mark is right, not sure why I didn't buy this sooner.
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post Sep 8 2020, 09:32 AM
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Sir Keith use's this and it works like a charm
But im a little suprised as the replys to this thread is a whos who of teener owner .

That no one has mentioned although this is a great product

I highly recommend you never ever
Trust any harbor freight product to support any weight using hydrolic preessure or jack stands
As you are bound to be disappointment
Or seriously injured/killed

Like the product but not the supplier
Do not ever trust (or endorce)h.f. products
Of any kind to support or hold load bearing compasity

Its extremly bad judgement. ! Expect their stuff to fail or it could be your ass


When i built my grooming van i used pre owned honda generators that cost about 2x as much used as h.f generators cost new . because when im out there working my ass off . i need reliablity. And i want a good reputation
Even know
I could have got h.f generators brand new with warranty for half the price
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post Sep 8 2020, 09:43 AM
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I have the Tangerine plate that you can borrow to install the engine trans. Remind me tomorrow.
With that lift the car would have to be even higher to get the drive train installed.
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post Sep 8 2020, 10:34 AM
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Yeah I prefer the Tangerine plate. It also has a cutout for a tuna can if you have one of those on your engine (which I do).

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post Sep 8 2020, 10:44 AM
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The shop where I used to work has used the HF lift tables for years for 911 engine and trans drops. They have six of them. None have ever failed. They just buy more because they are so useful. That’s about 600-700 lbs on a 3.6 with trans. I’m betting there is no difference in the hydraulic cylinder from harbor freight compared to any others. Use what you feel comfortable with but know that most of what differentiates different brands is only the name and the price.

The tangerine plate is excellent, but only works on a four cylinder.
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post Sep 8 2020, 11:02 AM
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Build a table with casters that will hold 2000ish lbs, put engine on table, put car on your lift, slide table with engine under car and lower car onto engine...easy peasy

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QUOTE(mepstein @ Sep 8 2020, 09:44 AM) *

The shop where I used to work has used the HF lift tables for years for 911 engine and trans drops. They have six of them. None have ever failed. They just buy more because they are so useful. That’s about 600-700 lbs on a 3.6 with trans. I’m betting there is no difference in the hydraulic cylinder from harbor freight compared to any others. Use what you feel comfortable with but know that most of what differentiates different brands is only the name and the price.

The tangerine plate is excellent, but only works on a four cylinder.



I get it but

You know in the back of youre mind
That its bound to fail (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif)

Stop supporting and pumping money thru
China.yeh its cheaper

But can we be big picture guys ...or what

Were our own worst enemy's !

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Rants over. Dead horse beaten
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post Sep 8 2020, 04:40 PM
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QUOTE(gms @ Sep 8 2020, 12:02 PM) *

Build a table with casters that will hold 2000ish lbs, put engine on table, put car on your lift, slide table with engine under car and lower car onto engine...easy peasy

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Yes - as I said that is how I did it last time but don’t have a lift for this one. Nice table, bet that is super handy. Engine looks tasty!

I’ll be careful with the table but not overly worries about it.
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QUOTE(Tdskip @ Sep 8 2020, 06:40 PM) *

QUOTE(gms @ Sep 8 2020, 12:02 PM) *

Build a table with casters that will hold 2000ish lbs, put engine on table, put car on your lift, slide table with engine under car and lower car onto engine...easy peasy



Yes - as I said that is how I did it last time but don’t have a lift for this one. Nice table, bet that is super handy. Engine looks tasty!

I’ll be careful with the table but not overly worries about it.

I try not to stick my limbs through the mechanism so if it did fail, not much would happen other than the engine settling to the floor. Of all the things I do, the lift table is low on the list.
Setting up metal stairs by myself...


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post Sep 8 2020, 05:28 PM
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Since I have a lift, I put the car on the lift and the engine on jackstands underneath. I use a plumb bob to align the motor and trans mounts with the chassis. Then I slowly and carefully lower the car on to the motor. Once the mounts are close enough, I bolt up the engine and trans to the body. Then I lift everything back up and hook up all the bits and pieces.

The only hard part is crawling under the car to bolt up the engine and trans mounts. The front mounts are definitely easier on a -4 than a -6.

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post Sep 8 2020, 06:38 PM
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QUOTE(thelogo @ Sep 8 2020, 09:45 AM) *

QUOTE(mepstein @ Sep 8 2020, 09:44 AM) *

The shop where I used to work has used the HF lift tables for years for 911 engine and trans drops. They have six of them. None have ever failed. They just buy more because they are so useful. That’s about 600-700 lbs on a 3.6 with trans. I’m betting there is no difference in the hydraulic cylinder from harbor freight compared to any others. Use what you feel comfortable with but know that most of what differentiates different brands is only the name and the price.

The tangerine plate is excellent, but only works on a four cylinder.



I get it but

You know in the back of youre mind
That its bound to fail (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif)

Stop supporting and pumping money thru
China.yeh its cheaper

But can we be big picture guys ...or what

Were our own worst enemy's !




Rants over. Dead horse beaten
you do know Honda generators are made in china
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post Sep 8 2020, 07:09 PM
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QUOTE(nditiz1 @ Sep 8 2020, 06:55 AM) *

I literally just bought this two days ago so I can run the 6 engine on the cart before installing. Mark is right, not sure why I didn't buy this sooner.


You have a stand for the oil tank?
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post Sep 8 2020, 07:12 PM
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there are some funny replies on this thread and some scary ones (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

my 2 cents... never trust anything. any hydraulic item can fail. just be cautious and always have a backup safety plan. Never put your body in harms way. I like the table option and the plumb trick is simple and great.

I would suggest cutting any HF number in half to add some addtional safety. They make a 2k transmission jack that allows you to bolt the engine/trans to it safely. Attached Image

Use a 20% off coupon and its a great dedicated 914 engine jack.

Just be safe and always plan for the worst to happen so you dont get hurt.
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post Sep 8 2020, 07:30 PM
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QUOTE(Tdskip @ Sep 8 2020, 06:41 AM) *
Last engine swap I did I had access to a lift which made it easy. This next time I’m going to be “stuck “using jackstands to get the car in the air, and I’m wondering if this would be a good way of raising the engine/transmission to be mounted?

Assume the car should be as high up as safe and level?

Thanks and hope it was a good long weekend.

What's the max height on that?
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I got one of these--very happy with it.
https://www.harborfreight.com/1500-lb-alumi...lift-63397.html


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I like that larger platform on the lift cart. Considering something like that for a Boxster engine/trans and the table is a larger platform.
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