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Is this really goin to happen?, 2035 Phase Out all new gas cars |
ndfrigi |
Sep 23 2020, 02:36 PM
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dhuckabay |
Sep 23 2020, 11:04 PM
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Lost this when I did it before. Agree with Rhody, won't live to see this. That doesn't mean I don't have an interest though. What I read shows that the pollution from making a battery is worse than driving a Toyota for 10 years. Seems like the lithium batteries are good for about 10 years. Hear that a Tesla S change out is over $40k. Just looked for a lithium for a car, $1500 for a plain jane, and they advertise it as a forever.
Then we get to the charging. CA seems to think that all will come from green. Hard to explain why the economy is shut when the sun doesn't shine and the wind doesn't blow. Power cuts where there in the last month. Green power can't be delivered on the grid to meet the needs. Next up is that the batteries need cobalt to control heat on charge and discharge. 70% of the worlds cobalt comes from the Democratic Republic of Congo, an oxymoron. To make the mine work it needs sulfuric acid. This comes from South Africa. We have seen no trucks leave since March. Standby for further news. A lot of built ecars with no batteries to run them. Not trying to sound cocky but have been a ChemE for near 50 years. An MD for part of that. My thesis was oxidation-reduction, batteries. There is nothing new. The chemistry and potentials were known for long before I was born. Will say that vanadium redox batties do have great potential for storage of green power. Not so greaat for transport. Due to heat requirements they are about the size of a 20 ft container. Good luck to CA. As Reagan said, land of the fruits and nuts. |
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