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Is this really goin to happen?, 2035 Phase Out all new gas cars |
ndfrigi |
Sep 23 2020, 02:36 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,928 Joined: 21-August 11 From: Orange County Member No.: 13,474 Region Association: Southern California |
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Racer |
Sep 24 2020, 08:10 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 787 Joined: 25-August 03 From: Northern Virginia Member No.: 1,073 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
As for a cheap EV? you can buy a used Leaf for less money than a 914..
https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/inventorylist...tedEntity=d2077 I don't recall their range (80 miles?) but no one said you had to go buy a new Tesla or Taycan. I know.. its not what you want.. but it may be what you "need" someday. and in 15 years, a then cpo used "leaf" or "bolt" will likely have a range of 300+ miles/charge.. maybe 500 miles.. who knows. |
Chris914n6 |
Sep 24 2020, 11:15 AM
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Jackstands are my life. Group: Members Posts: 3,318 Joined: 14-March 03 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 431 Region Association: Southwest Region |
The Leaf is a throw away car from the get go. Cheap battery that degrades heavily and can't be replaced or fixed like the Prius. It is NOT a viable used car.
Also, EVs are currently subsidized by ICE sales and are only on the market because of CA. Even Tesla is subsidized by carbon tax profits. The Obama Era CAFE standards are grossly optimistic and hampered by the fact that EV sales are flat at 2%. Any manufacturer that sells trucks is failing to keep up, per EPA website. Personally, I'd be happy to see these current monster trucks off the market. An affordable EV made to fit everyone's needs in 15 years... I don't see how that's possible. But I'm sure Nevadans will be happy to sell you fruits & nuts new ICE cars. As for a cheap EV? you can buy a used Leaf for less money than a 914.. https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/inventorylist...tedEntity=d2077 I don't recall their range (80 miles?) but no one said you had to go buy a new Tesla or Taycan. I know.. its not what you want.. but it may be what you "need" someday. and in 15 years, a then cpo used "leaf" or "bolt" will likely have a range of 300+ miles/charge.. maybe 500 miles.. who knows. |
JamesM |
Sep 24 2020, 01:19 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,900 Joined: 6-April 06 From: Kearns, UT Member No.: 5,834 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
An affordable EV made to fit everyone's needs in 15 years... I don't see how that's possible. With Teslas latest battery development, and VW now also entering the market, I would not be surprised if we hit that mark in 5 years. Though "everyone" is a pretty broad base, but im not sure you could say ICE vehicles do that currently. There will always be some level of compromise. The "perfect" vehicle for everyone just doesn't exist. |
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