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> I'm getting a RAT!!, MASSIVE TYPE4 in the worlds lightest 914
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post Jul 14 2005, 10:40 PM
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QUOTE (URY914 @ Jul 14 2005, 11:33 AM)
I'm getting a RAT!!

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post Jul 14 2005, 10:41 PM
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Back in the day the Beetle guys would take the generator and reverse the field wires and "motor" the generator. Then the generator would turn the fan. Worked well. The stovepipe is legal, I don't care what anyone says. I will win that protest.

The problem with production is the little rule about where the alternator is located. Production rules say the alternator must remain in the stock location. I already was looking at running it off the halfshaft.
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post Jul 14 2005, 10:49 PM
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QUOTE (URY914 @ Jul 14 2005, 09:21 PM)
You hold the gas pedal down and I'll steer.

Heck, if that's what I have to do to take that sled out for a spin, than so be it ...
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Jake Raby
post Jul 14 2005, 10:56 PM
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Andy, Thats a bad ass pic!

I wonder if someone could modify that to look even meaner and bloodier and fire breathing for a T shirt???

Hmmn!

Brett, I have done the electric motor thing in a bug years ago, but it doesn't turn fast enough AND it drags the battery down quick.... My idea would REALLY annoy people and would also amaze people at the same time, but I doubt its legal.....
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post Jul 14 2005, 11:13 PM
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Its not illegal until you beat someone that cares. Go for it.

Yes it is rough on the battery, but ina drag race situation where it was originally done battery life was minimal anyways.
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post Jul 14 2005, 11:36 PM
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My way requires no battery.....

It has it's own ignition!!!!!
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post Jul 14 2005, 11:59 PM
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QUOTE (Jake Raby @ Jul 14 2005, 10:36 PM)
My way requires no battery.....
It has it's own ignition!!!!!

a gasoline motor just to drive the cooling fan.

that's genius!
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post Jul 15 2005, 12:10 AM
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Two stroke weedeater engine...

remote mounted with the weedeater flex shaft to drive the fan... It could be mounted in the rear trunk.. Thjose flex shafts are SUPER strong- I know because my big, bad assed Stihl can cut a small tree down with its steel blade....

It can be hooked directly to the throttle to be variable speed with the real engine..

It'll only weigh a few pounds...

it can run the race gas and have the oil injected with a facet pump in line just before the intake to the engine... Its easy to find junk weed eaters and they can run WOT all day and never hurt..

Who knows if its legal-- They let guys run electric cooling fans, so whats the difference?

Can you imagine sitting on the grid with the real engine off and revving the 2 stroke??? The damn workers would have a fit! The other racers would be very annoyed too!

I REALLY want to try it! Like I said, who knows if its legal, or been tried before...

With the DTM it would be very simple to hook up, (because of the cooling fan location) AND you'd get the ultimate in cool running and even temps to boot!

Since it would feed into the backside of the fan you could use an air conditioner solenoid operated clutch to disengage the normal belt and if there was a failure of the weed eater engine a switch could be flipped to run conventional again... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/boldblue.gif)
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post Jul 15 2005, 12:51 AM
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QUOTE (Jake Raby @ Jul 14 2005, 11:10 PM)
Can you imagine sitting on the grid with the real engine off and revving the 2 stroke???

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post Jul 15 2005, 05:33 AM
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Hey Paul, I guess that I now need to send the money I owe you......

PM me your address and I will send cash....(I am living out of hotel 500 miles from home..)
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post Jul 15 2005, 06:58 AM
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post Jul 15 2005, 07:28 AM
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To get this back a little bit on topic...

One of the first replies said that my new power to weight ratio will be better than a V8. Of course that is a stock 914 with a V8. I did kick around the idea of other engine types (-6, V8, V6, RX-7, Suby, even a 944 turbo), but I kept coming back to a T-IV. For simple reasons:

1. Cost (direct and indirect)
2. Ease of installation.
3. Lightweight
4. and to a lesser degree, it is the engine that came in the car.

If I were to go with a V8 I would have had to upgrade just about everything in the car. It would be a kickass ride but it would take another 6 months to a year to sort it out. Believe it or not I do like to drive the damn thing every once and awhile. For the record, I have driven two autocrosses this year. That equals about 8 minutes of seat time. And I see only doing another 3 at most by the end of the year. The building of this monster has taken A LOT of time. It has been a blast, but man it has been slow.

One day I'll be done with the car and I'll go on the "URY National Tour" so everyone can see and drive it. I'll have write ups in magazines, I'll go on Top Gear and Matt Lauer will interview me on The Today Show (I'll tell Matt "You don't know 914's like I know 914's"). I'll use it as the pace car at the F1 race at Indy (OK, maybe if there is another F1 race at Indy). I'll get sponsorship from Hooter's....

Hey a guy can dream can't he (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/confused24.gif)

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post Jul 15 2005, 07:43 AM
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lol Paul! It's great to see you in hyper-mode.


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post Jul 15 2005, 08:57 AM
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Certain engines have their way of doing that!

Wait till he drives it!

I have had customers call me up and actually hyperventilate after explaining their first full throttle experience!
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post Jul 15 2005, 12:12 PM
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QUOTE (URY914 @ Jul 15 2005, 05:28 AM)
I'll get sponsorship from Hooter's....

Maybe they'll let you tie up the waitresses' T-shirts before a shift.
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