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Porsche Part, Globalization Continues |
914Sixer |
Oct 29 2020, 06:33 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,882 Joined: 17-January 05 From: San Angelo Texas Member No.: 3,457 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I saw this ad and something JUMPED out at me. Look at the emblem box, MADE in TAIWAN. Got to love it. Porsche is continuing to go Wal-Mart on us. Just adding this to the long list of Porsche parts that has gone that way.
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Mark Henry |
Oct 29 2020, 08:37 AM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
They weren't making enough money on parts. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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brant |
Oct 29 2020, 08:51 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,624 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I'm restoring a 1971 bmw airhead
ordered the expensive... brand new tank emblems (porcelain i think) straight from BMW in Germany but upon opening... made in china |
Racer |
Oct 29 2020, 08:58 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 787 Joined: 25-August 03 From: Northern Virginia Member No.: 1,073 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I saw this ad and something JUMPED out at me. Look at the emblem box, MADE in TAIWAN. Got to love it. Porsche is continuing to go Wal-Mart on us. Just adding this to the long list of Porsche parts that has gone that way. it would have cost more if hand made by German artisans.. and NO one would buy one at those prices (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) We complain when things are expensive.. and then complain more when we buy one cheap and then learn why it was so cheap. Silly Globalization (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) That said, that crest looks nice! |
Cairo94507 |
Oct 29 2020, 10:04 AM
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Michael Group: Members Posts: 9,762 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 9,712 Region Association: Northern California |
Time will tell......
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Superhawk996 |
Oct 29 2020, 10:41 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,827 Joined: 25-August 18 From: Woods of N. Idaho Member No.: 22,428 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
The die has been cast.
The decions which have been made over the last 50 years are now coming to fruition. Staying in context with respect to Porsche. How many Boxters were made in Finland? Wasn't it obvious as far back as 1997 that production capacities would eventually be moved out of Germany to lower cost countires? One way or another, this is a trend that has been in the works for a very long time. |
Mark Henry |
Oct 29 2020, 11:21 AM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
So.... if it wasn't made in Stuttgart it isn't real Porsche?
Maybe globalization is the reason the 914 is no longer NARP? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
horizontally-opposed |
Oct 29 2020, 11:41 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,432 Joined: 12-May 04 From: San Francisco Member No.: 2,058 Region Association: None |
Considers "problem" of "globalization" vs Taiwan parts for a vintage German car that's in the U.S. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)
Then considers fact said German car manufacturer started making cars in Austria, and has also sold "German" sports cars made in Finland as well as South Africa. Then considers some of the very best parts ever bolted onto a Porsche were from companies based here in the USA, making parts in the USA, the UK, and Japan among others. Parts to include optional upgrades offered by Porsche for factory GT3 race cars. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/flag.gif) Maybe "globalization," or merely the ability to buy things made elsewhere, isn't so bad? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) And then there are all of the aftermarket parts for Porsches made around the world, some to an incredibly high standard. SSI of old, and so many more today (with some of their purveyors being members here). Key is that parts are available, whether from PAG or others, and for prices we can afford. Don't get me wrong: All original is the highest bar, then comes OE/NOS, period OEM, OEM, great repro, etc in roughly that order. And, yes, some of Porsche Classic's parts disappoint when it comes to visuals, function, quality, and value (I'll point to my failing window seals as Exhibit A). Others I've purchased were as good as the original stuff. Would I like for all Porsche Classic parts to be made in Europe, and made in the old way? Sure. But as others have said, it's unrealistic—and, for most of us, I'll take cars that run and drive and can be maintained as they continue to be used. |
914_teener |
Oct 29 2020, 11:49 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,198 Joined: 31-August 08 From: So. Cal Member No.: 9,489 Region Association: Southern California |
Considers "problem" of "globalization" vs Taiwan parts for a vintage German car that's in the U.S. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) Then considers fact said German car manufacturer started making cars in Austria, and has also sold "German" sports cars made in Finland as well as South Africa. Then considers some of the very best parts ever bolted onto a Porsche were from companies based here in the USA, making parts in the USA, the UK, and Japan among others. Parts to include optional upgrades offered by Porsche for factory GT3 race cars. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/flag.gif) Maybe "globalization," or merely the ability to buy things made elsewhere, isn't so bad? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) And then there are all of the aftermarket parts for Porsches made around the world, some to an incredibly high standard. SSI of old, and so many more today (with some of their purveyors being members here). Key is that parts are available, whether from PAG or others, and for prices we can afford. Don't get me wrong: All original is the highest bar, then comes OE/NOS, period OEM, OEM, great repro, etc in roughly that order. And, yes, some of Porsche Classic's parts disappoint when it comes to visuals, function, quality, and value (I'll point to my failing window seals as Exhibit A). Others I've purchased were as good as the original stuff. Would I like for all Porsche Classic parts to be made in Europe, and made in the old way? Sure. But as others have said, it's unrealistic—and, for most of us, I'll take cars that run and drive and can be maintained as they continue to be used. Tesla...made in the Republic of California! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stirthepot.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stirthepot.gif) |
Superhawk996 |
Oct 29 2020, 11:59 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,827 Joined: 25-August 18 From: Woods of N. Idaho Member No.: 22,428 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
So.... if it wasn't made in Stuttgart it isn't real Porsche? Maybe globalization is the reason the 914 is no longer NARP? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) That combined with the modern trend of cross branding and lack of clear ownership of brands confusing customers. Peugeot/Fiat Chrysler/DaimerChrysler/Chrysler etc.? Chrysler has made minivans for VW. Ferrari and Maserati sharing engine platforms. List goes on. Maybe people don't see a Porsche 914 manufactured by VW as a net negative anymore? |
mrholland2 |
Oct 29 2020, 12:05 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 750 Joined: 7-September 11 From: Santa Maria,CA Member No.: 13,531 Region Association: Central California |
Considers "problem" of "globalization" vs Taiwan parts for a vintage German car that's in the U.S. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) Then considers fact said German car manufacturer started making cars in Austria, and has also sold "German" sports cars made in Finland as well as South Africa. Then considers some of the very best parts ever bolted onto a Porsche were from companies based here in the USA, making parts in the USA, the UK, and Japan among others. Parts to include optional upgrades offered by Porsche for factory GT3 race cars. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/flag.gif) Maybe "globalization," or merely the ability to buy things made elsewhere, isn't so bad? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) And then there are all of the aftermarket parts for Porsches made around the world, some to an incredibly high standard. SSI of old, and so many more today (with some of their purveyors being members here). Key is that parts are available, whether from PAG or others, and for prices we can afford. Don't get me wrong: All original is the highest bar, then comes OE/NOS, period OEM, OEM, great repro, etc in roughly that order. And, yes, some of Porsche Classic's parts disappoint when it comes to visuals, function, quality, and value (I'll point to my failing window seals as Exhibit A). Others I've purchased were as good as the original stuff. Would I like for all Porsche Classic parts to be made in Europe, and made in the old way? Sure. But as others have said, it's unrealistic—and, for most of us, I'll take cars that run and drive and can be maintained as they continue to be used. Tesla...made in the Republic of California! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stirthepot.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stirthepot.gif) As far as I'm concerned, Elon Musk can take his crazy self and go elsewhere. He's such a freak. |
914_teener |
Oct 29 2020, 12:07 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,198 Joined: 31-August 08 From: So. Cal Member No.: 9,489 Region Association: Southern California |
Considers "problem" of "globalization" vs Taiwan parts for a vintage German car that's in the U.S. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) Then considers fact said German car manufacturer started making cars in Austria, and has also sold "German" sports cars made in Finland as well as South Africa. Then considers some of the very best parts ever bolted onto a Porsche were from companies based here in the USA, making parts in the USA, the UK, and Japan among others. Parts to include optional upgrades offered by Porsche for factory GT3 race cars. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/flag.gif) Maybe "globalization," or merely the ability to buy things made elsewhere, isn't so bad? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) And then there are all of the aftermarket parts for Porsches made around the world, some to an incredibly high standard. SSI of old, and so many more today (with some of their purveyors being members here). Key is that parts are available, whether from PAG or others, and for prices we can afford. Don't get me wrong: All original is the highest bar, then comes OE/NOS, period OEM, OEM, great repro, etc in roughly that order. And, yes, some of Porsche Classic's parts disappoint when it comes to visuals, function, quality, and value (I'll point to my failing window seals as Exhibit A). Others I've purchased were as good as the original stuff. Would I like for all Porsche Classic parts to be made in Europe, and made in the old way? Sure. But as others have said, it's unrealistic—and, for most of us, I'll take cars that run and drive and can be maintained as they continue to be used. Tesla...made in the Republic of California! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stirthepot.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stirthepot.gif) As far as I'm concerned, Elon Musk can take his crazy self and go elsewhere. He's such a freak. One man's freak is another man's genious. |
Ansbacher |
Oct 29 2020, 01:16 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 689 Joined: 4-July 14 From: Tampa Bay, Florida Member No.: 17,589 |
QUOTE That said, that crest looks nice! Disagree, the horse image looks mottled. Ansbacher |
76-914 |
Oct 29 2020, 04:35 PM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,502 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California |
I've got an old German made one in it's faded original package. Never thought much of it but maybe it's finally worth something. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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sixnotfour |
Oct 29 2020, 05:44 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,432 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I've got an old German made one in it's faded original package. Never thought much of it but maybe it's finally worth something. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) big bucks , if its red enamel, not glassy look,..911S registry |
djway |
Oct 29 2020, 08:58 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 787 Joined: 16-October 15 From: Riverside Member No.: 19,266 Region Association: Southern California |
If Porsche sets the materials specifications, dimensions etc and then do quality checks does it really matter where it's made? Spec is Spec.
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draganc |
Oct 29 2020, 11:17 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 725 Joined: 2-November 09 From: central new jersey Member No.: 11,000 Region Association: North East States |
If Porsche sets the materials specifications, dimensions etc and then do quality checks does it really matter where it's made? Spec is Spec. Yes it does, in particular on older or classic cars. I’m guessing here, but I’m certain that pre 1985 cars were mainly made by German or at least European parts. If we are going just by performance (ie it’s the same spec globalization blabla), why not just drive a high performing Lexus, Nissan or Acura? The question/point that would me shut down, was the Made in Taiwan part priced accordingly, or with a Sauerkraut price stamp? |
Coondog |
Oct 30 2020, 06:11 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,089 Joined: 24-September 15 From: Apple Valley Calif Member No.: 19,195 Region Association: Southern California |
Bought my replacement crest off eBay and I don’t care where it was made (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bootyshake.gif)
It looks great on my car. But for clarification if my car didn’t come with a crest on it, I would have never put one on the hood-trunk-boot.....whatever you call it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) |
horizontally-opposed |
Oct 30 2020, 10:57 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,432 Joined: 12-May 04 From: San Francisco Member No.: 2,058 Region Association: None |
This is a good discussion.
To each their own, but I generally prefer German or European parts on my German car—simply because that's what it is: a car from that part of the world. However, that's tempered by my budget as well as my desire to improve the car. Back when SSI was here, I went with SSI heat exchangers over factory stuff because SSI was plainly superior. So, if there's a better part made here in the USA (or wherever), I may well go that way. I have mad respect for the preservation and survivor cars, and those who keep them, but my 914 is a driver first... |
Mark Henry |
Oct 30 2020, 11:05 AM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
Bought my replacement crest off eBay and I don’t care where it was made (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bootyshake.gif) It looks great on my car. But for clarification if my car didn’t come with a crest on it, I would have never put one on the hood-trunk-boot.....whatever you call it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Frunk (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) IIRC The ebay badges are real, old ones that have been striped and painted black. There's a guy on the bird who buys old and broken badges. |
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