Modify your rear valance for custom exhaust tips, here's how we did it |
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Modify your rear valance for custom exhaust tips, here's how we did it |
tygaboy |
Oct 30 2020, 11:00 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,293 Joined: 6-October 15 From: Petaluma, CA Member No.: 19,241 Region Association: Northern California |
Robert, my buddy @BuddyV has a cool, dual exhaust muffler on his big 4, wanted to run the rear valance and asked if I could help him make that happen. I've got to do this same sort of modification on my valance so figured "what better way to develop the skill than by practicing on someone else's car?" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)
I figured I'd give the hammer form approach a go. Apologies for not documenting as the work occurred and not taking pics along the way but you'll get the idea. Anyway, here's how we did it: First, I used a template tool and copied the shape of the valance and the desired shape of the opening onto a block of wood. I bit of time with a band saw and sander and I had the hammer form. Lesson learned: don't use a regular ol' 2x4. It barely made it through the process! Again, this pic is after all the hammering and you can see the carnage. Hardwood next time. Attached thumbnail(s) |
tygaboy |
Oct 30 2020, 11:06 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,293 Joined: 6-October 15 From: Petaluma, CA Member No.: 19,241 Region Association: Northern California |
Next, Robert marked where he wanted to cut outs and I removed the "appropriate" amount of material.
As mentioned, no pics of this but I used snips to cut out the opening, leaving enough material to hammer in a return that would match the factory return along the lower edge of the valance. Leave more than you think you'll need since the excess can be sanded away once things are hammered into place. Then, the hammer form gets positioned in the valance and clamped in place. I used vice grip C-clamps like those pictured. Attached thumbnail(s) Attached image(s) |
tygaboy |
Oct 30 2020, 11:09 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,293 Joined: 6-October 15 From: Petaluma, CA Member No.: 19,241 Region Association: Northern California |
I used a nylon mallet to hammer the material into the form, creating the opening and the return. Here's the unpainted result, on Robert's car.
He'll have it painted and we'll post those pics, too. Also, I'll update this with more and better "in process" pics when I do this mod to my valance. Attached thumbnail(s) |
914werke |
Oct 30 2020, 11:28 AM
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"I got blisters on me fingers" Group: Members Posts: 10,070 Joined: 22-March 03 From: USofA Member No.: 453 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
what about filling in the OE notch?
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mb911 |
Oct 30 2020, 11:28 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,852 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Chris thats a nice approach.. What I have done in the past is make the cut out then shear a strip of the appropriate width and thickness steel for the lip and fuse the edge with TIG then blend quickly with a roloc scotch brite.. Thats basically what I do on the GT bumper modifications I do for folks.
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slowrodent |
Oct 30 2020, 11:58 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 115 Joined: 29-February 20 From: Tucson/Oro Valley Member No.: 23,981 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Very nicely done and quite applicable to my car. I look forward to the "in progress" pics...
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tygaboy |
Oct 30 2020, 11:58 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,293 Joined: 6-October 15 From: Petaluma, CA Member No.: 19,241 Region Association: Northern California |
what about filling in the OE notch? @914werke - Robert didn't want to do that, at least not yet. On mine, I'll fab a filler piece and weld it in. |
steuspeed |
Oct 30 2020, 12:13 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,006 Joined: 12-July 11 From: Portland, Oregon Member No.: 13,308 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I want dual exhaust like that for my outlaw 2.0. What muffler is it?
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DRPHIL914 |
Oct 30 2020, 12:30 PM
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Dr. Phil Group: Members Posts: 5,766 Joined: 9-December 09 From: Bluffton, SC Member No.: 11,106 Region Association: South East States |
I want dual exhaust like that for my outlaw 2.0. What muffler is it? looks like mb911's new GT style twin pipe muffler, been considering this myself, but have to source a different set of HE, sell my current set up and have someone else do this to my valance for me as i dont have a welder or access to one here at the present time.... but those muffers are a work of art! |
mbseto |
Oct 30 2020, 12:46 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,253 Joined: 6-August 14 From: Cincy Member No.: 17,743 Region Association: North East States |
Nice. Love those quick satisfying jobs.
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mb911 |
Oct 30 2020, 01:01 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,852 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I want dual exhaust like that for my outlaw 2.0. What muffler is it? looks like mb911's new GT style twin pipe muffler, been considering this myself, but have to source a different set of HE, sell my current set up and have someone else do this to my valance for me as i dont have a welder or access to one here at the present time.... but those muffers are a work of art! Gonna have 1.7/1.8 ones shortly |
Cairo94507 |
Oct 30 2020, 03:21 PM
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Michael Group: Members Posts: 9,762 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 9,712 Region Association: Northern California |
Chris @tygaboy - very nicely handled.
My personal opinion, yeah- no one cares (according to my wife) - is the rear of the cars just look unfinished w/o a rear valance installed. I don't care if it's a deep or shorty valance, the car needs one to look correct from the side and rear. On my last Six I had the GT style muffler and I filled the stock hole and then added the two for the pipes and thought it looked darn near factory correct. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
tygaboy |
Nov 11 2020, 10:19 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,293 Joined: 6-October 15 From: Petaluma, CA Member No.: 19,241 Region Association: Northern California |
Back to working up the patch panel to close off the stock opening. @914werke , you'd asked about this earlier.
First, I wanted to get the top-to-bottom profile but not any side-to-side curve. A neat trick is that if you put an inner tube around the upper anvil of the English wheel, it only curves the material left/right vs creating a compound curve. I've pulled the inner tube a bit off center, just to make it obvious it's there. In the next couple pics, you can see the left/right (top to bottom of the part) curve but how the length stays straight. Attached thumbnail(s) |
tygaboy |
Nov 11 2020, 10:21 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,293 Joined: 6-October 15 From: Petaluma, CA Member No.: 19,241 Region Association: Northern California |
Here's the area to close off and a test fit of the profile so far. I'll cut out the stock opening, trim the panel to fit and butt weld it in place.
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tygaboy |
Nov 11 2020, 10:23 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,293 Joined: 6-October 15 From: Petaluma, CA Member No.: 19,241 Region Association: Northern California |
Next, I needed to tip the return. Since the panel was already curved, it couldn't go in the brake so I used the bead roller. I just needed to figure out the best die to get as close as I could to the radius on the valance.
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tygaboy |
Nov 11 2020, 10:26 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,293 Joined: 6-October 15 From: Petaluma, CA Member No.: 19,241 Region Association: Northern California |
Then I used the shrinker to get the side-to-side curve. You can see the marks it leaves on the return.
Here are a few shots of the fit at this stage. It's essentially where it needs to be. Now I need to work out where I want to cut the valance to remove the stock opening, trim this panel to fit, make any final adjustments and weld it in. Attached thumbnail(s) |
cary |
Nov 12 2020, 08:54 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,900 Joined: 26-January 04 From: Sherwood Oregon Member No.: 1,608 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Nice work ..............
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AZBanks |
Nov 12 2020, 10:17 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,063 Joined: 7-December 05 From: New River, AZ Member No.: 5,245 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I'm curious why you are making such a big patch and not just patching the small area of the original opening.
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Cairo94507 |
Nov 12 2020, 10:31 AM
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Michael Group: Members Posts: 9,762 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 9,712 Region Association: Northern California |
I think that is going look like a pipe never exited in that location. Very clean job. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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tygaboy |
Nov 12 2020, 11:08 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,293 Joined: 6-October 15 From: Petaluma, CA Member No.: 19,241 Region Association: Northern California |
I'm curious why you are making such a big patch and not just patching the small area of the original opening. @AZBanks - It's common - and far easier, especially with smaller parts, to shape a larger piece then cut it to size. I'll slice out the stock opening about like this pic, fit the new panel, scribe the cut opening shape onto the panel and trim it to fit the opening. Attached thumbnail(s) |
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