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> Problem solved. Engine speeding up between shifts, Must be something with the cabs (but what?)
HansJan
post Nov 12 2020, 10:11 PM
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Hello,

Besides the occasional backfire (mostly on decel) the car runs great.
It seems that I have to reset the idlespeed on my car each spring and each fall. Which is totally acceptable.

But within the last week it developed a condition where the engine speeds-up between gear shifts. Its almost like Im keeping the accelerator down.

When coming to a full stop, it takes about 3 seconds before it falls down to idlespeed.

It has Dual EMPI Carbs.

What could cause this?
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post Nov 12 2020, 10:24 PM
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Your accelerator cable is wrapped around your clutch cable
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post Nov 12 2020, 11:03 PM
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QUOTE(JRust @ Nov 12 2020, 08:24 PM) *

Your accelerator cable is wrapped around your clutch cable


Or cable need replacement or need extra spring return by the linkage.
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post Nov 12 2020, 11:13 PM
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My Dells did the same thing after about 3k from overhaul. Put some silicone lube on the bellcrank's and on the linkage and it's back to normal. Hope that helps,
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post Nov 13 2020, 08:54 AM
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I agree with the above possible causes. Disconnect the cable at the carbs to see if the carb linkage or the cable is the problem. If the cabkes are crossed the clutch cable will drag against the accelerator cable. Remove the cover at the front of the tunnel as use a mirror and light to look inside.
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post Nov 13 2020, 09:44 AM
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Are you using an additional spring on the linkage or relying on the springs on the carb shafts?
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post Nov 13 2020, 11:58 AM
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QUOTE(rhodyguy @ Nov 13 2020, 09:44 AM) *

Are you using an additional spring on the linkage or relying on the springs on the carb shafts?


There is an additional spring between the Hexbar and engine bay. When operated by hand (turn hexbar directly) it snaps back without delay or drag, but still has the 3 second delay in returning back to idle-speed.

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post Nov 13 2020, 05:00 PM
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Intake leak
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post Nov 13 2020, 05:51 PM
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The bracket that holds the outer sleeve of the accelerator cable had shifted, which caused the cable to bind. Problem solved.

Thanks to all that chimed in.
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post Nov 13 2020, 06:31 PM
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QUOTE(type2man @ Nov 14 2020, 12:00 PM) *

Intake leak

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) well said,a slow drop to idle is generally that issue,FI is worse but carbs will suffer "false air" issues also been there.
Common area's is that folks overtighten manifold to head bolts and they happly pull out if the head,oh and don't use the crap thick gaskets supply by the likes of EMPI for there less than great manifolds.
Has the OP rebuilt his pedal assembly,is the throttle sticking @ this point or a bad cable...who knows.
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post Nov 13 2020, 07:54 PM
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can you share how you solved it? thank you!
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QUOTE(ndfrigi @ Nov 13 2020, 07:54 PM) *

can you share how you solved it? thank you!


See picture.
The bracket (red arrow) had moved a little. This caused the cable to bind.
I repositioned it back to we’re it belongs and tightened the bolt (yellow arrow).

Reset the idle speed to as low as possible (approx 900 rpm).

And Whalla.... Problem solved.
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post Nov 14 2020, 01:08 AM
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QUOTE(HansJan @ Nov 13 2020, 08:44 PM) *

QUOTE(ndfrigi @ Nov 13 2020, 07:54 PM) *

can you share how you solved it? thank you!


See picture.
The bracket (red arrow) had moved a little. This caused the cable to bind.
I repositioned it back to we’re it belongs and tightened the bolt (yellow arrow).

Reset the idle speed to as low as possible (approx 900 rpm).

And Whalla.... Problem solved.
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Thank you! This thread will help some members too. Sometimes we try to find various fixes but ended up just a small issue.
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post Nov 14 2020, 02:58 PM
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QUOTE(ndfrigi @ Nov 14 2020, 08:08 PM) *

QUOTE(HansJan @ Nov 13 2020, 08:44 PM) *

QUOTE(ndfrigi @ Nov 13 2020, 07:54 PM) *

can you share how you solved it? thank you!


See picture.
The bracket (red arrow) had moved a little. This caused the cable to bind.
I repositioned it back to we’re it belongs and tightened the bolt (yellow arrow).

Reset the idle speed to as low as possible (approx 900 rpm).

And Whalla.... Problem solved.
Attached Image


Thank you! This thread will help some members too. Sometimes we try to find various fixes but ended up just a small issue.


Excellent result and easy,well done (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) .
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