The Unfortunate dealings Options

[Ansbacher]

Long-distance transactions are just that- long and distant. Things get lost in translation. Maybe it was the language difference (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Ansbacher

[bretth]

I will vouch for Mepstein even though I don't think I have done any transactions with him personally. I have seen him give parts to members for free on 914world simply because he had what someone was looking for.

[mlindner]

I vote for pulling this thread, let it be handled off-line if possible. Mark L.

[rhodyguy]

I 2nd that motion. Or we can a stop commenting and it will be on pg 3 in no time flat. Out.

[Unobtanium-inc]

The pictures i have to compare against are from after I bought the car but like I said previously I gave you a chance to correct your wrong doings and you declined.

I have nothing else to say to you, your aware of what you removed and swapped out after I paid exactly what you asked for.

Shipping was past and present motorcars, a very reputable business who said you messed them about with collection, 3 attempts to collect the car and pictures provided all times- contact jack lazinsk and ask yourself- i paid twice due to this but never questioned mark.

If anyone wants to talk about this please message me and I will show you as much or as little as you like....

Fact is, I was lied to and taken advantage of because as I believe my location.

Like I said if anyone wants to chat, please feel free to message me iv nothing to hide.

All the best,

Nathan

Nathan,
I think you need to look at this from our perspective. We don't know you, we do know Mark. This is the first I've ever heard of him "ripping" someone, so I'm skeptical. So it's up to you to prove what you're saying, so far you haven't, so most of us are still skeptical. Mark is telling you to show your proof so he doesn't seem to think you have anything either. When pushed on your allegations you retreat and say you're done.
So put up, or shut up.

[TJB/914]

My opinion:

If contacted by 914nb I personally would not do business with him after reading his complaints. His issues with Mark should have been private & not on this forum.

I have done business with Mark and satisified with Mark's descriptions and fair pricing. Always trusted and satisified.

Tom, long time member.

[frostyf]

I would add, that I'm from the UK but currently residing in the US for a few years. Whilst I've only bought a couple of items from Mark he's always sent me parts as described and at what I thought was a good price. He even allowed me to jump ahead of him in the queue to buy an elusive fuch 2.0l spare wheel. Most importantly to me, whenever I've been stuck with something or needed a bit of guidance, despite never meeting him in person he has always offered me emailed guidance and advice which has been accurate and honest.

The description doesn't match up with my experience with Mark who remains at the top of the list of individuals who've gone beyond the pale to help me out!

[get off my lawn]

Not cool at all ,you should have gotten a completely rust free perfect concours show car for $1500!
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Yeah I'm pretty much 100% believing Mark on this one. Gonna designate 914nb down as a giant red flag, danger do not approach ever.

[MM1]

Just for reference @914nb - I jumped in with no knowledge a few years ago and bought a '73 basketcase "roller" . . .ruined the rear bearings "rolling" it because I didn't know better.

The drivetrain was literally in boxes and what I thought was a solid hellhole was years of mud and leaves masquerading in the darkly lit garage.

Paid nearly $4k for a beat up old highly chipped original paint money pit. Over 2 years later - despite a necessary and crushing frugality, I have spent more than you did just for a portion of the used parts that Mark gave you for free. . .all inside a 914 project with a title.

Wish I were that lucky . . .even if you spent 1500+ pounds to ship it, your ahead of me, mate.

Now here's the community "reference" . . . I have learned more from Mark and most "Teeners here in 2 years of slightly obsessed attention, than I would have in countless hours of expensive trial and error. I have had the honor and pleasure of meeting and driving with a number of members here, and I can honestly say my life is richer because of them and 914 World . . .period.

Yours could have been too - and perhaps it still can, if you focus on recovering from your unfortunate illness and searching your soul (not your mind and emotions as I too often do) for the center . . .the middle way . . .the truth.

If you honestly do so, and make amends, as we all should, you'll be able to travel on the journey to having, apparently, one of the few 914's in the British Isles.

Have I felt burned on a few deals - whether that was the actual unbiased truth or not? Of course - who hasn't - but jurisprudence demands that facts be presented so that impartial, rational entities may attempt to discover said truth - without, as far as humanly possible, succumbing to human emotion.

As an impartial observer, I do not see sufficient evidence - presented in this argument - to call into question the benefit of doubt that is afforded to the members of this forum - and humanity as a whole - who have proven their integrity over years of service to their fellow enthusiasts.

We are here for learning, sharing, camaraderie and a pleasurable escape from the troughs and tragedies of our daily lives . . .try, now, Sir, to do the same - "bury the hatchet" . . .you (and we) shall all be happier for it.

[Amphicar770]

If buying any vehicle unseen, it is always wise to have a 3rd party evaluate on your behalf. There are plenty of people here, and on other forums willing to do so at no cost. I did so on my 914 and there were no surprises or misunderstanding. While mine cost a lot more than you paid, and that was several years ago, within a few months I had to replace all 4 injectors. Old stuff is old stuff and even NOS parts deteriorate with age.

[rmital]

I will vouch for Mepstein even though I don't think I have done any transactions with him personally. I have seen him give parts to members for free on 914world simply because he had what someone was looking for.

sorry for the bump Mark, but have to say, the proof is in the pudding:

Mark is a good honest guy....
and yes, no good deed goes unpunished? well, maybe 10% of good deeds you get punished for.

[76-914]

Hey Mark, I feel for you buddy. I've been in the service business since '79. Dealing with screwballs is a part of dealing with the public. I haven't met this character but I do know him through years of dealing with the public. They are few and far between, thank goodness. Take comfort in knowing you are not the first or last person he will "dump" on. I wouldn't be surprised if this isn't his MO. It's obvious to all here that he he prefers taking the "low road". His "Thunder" consists of unfounded accusations and martyrdom with accents of hypochondria. If I were you I wouldn't honor any of his accusations with a reply. Nor do you need to defend your integrity. This is the first negative comment about you that I've heard in your 10+ years here. Continue your journey on the High Road my friend. You'd be lost elsewhere. Kent

[PanelBilly]

This is an excellent example of they way we approach a situation that we are unhappy with. Its easy to take the position of victim and solicit support from peers to verify your belief that "it was done to you". The more mature perspective would be to take personal responsibility for the results and recognize how your decisions effected the outcome.

Just my observation. Never could remember is it effect or affect....

[Unobtanium-inc]

Hey Mark, I feel for you buddy. I've been in the service business since '79. Dealing with screwballs is a part of dealing with the public. I haven't met this character but I do know him through years of dealing with the public. They are few and far between, thank goodness. Take comfort in knowing you are not the first or last person he will "dump" on. I wouldn't be surprised if this isn't his MO. It's obvious to all here that he he prefers taking the "low road". His "Thunder" consists of unfounded accusations and martyrdom with accents of hypochondria. If I were you I wouldn't honor any of his accusations with a reply. Nor do you need to defend your integrity. This is the first negative comment about you that I've heard in your 10+ years here. Continue your journey on the High Road my friend. You'd be lost elsewhere. Kent

It's been my experience there are a few more screwballs in the UK then elsewhere, and I've sold cars all over the world. My favorite was a 70S I sold to a guy, I said it was "rust free". He got the car, took a grinder to the whole underside, found 3 dime sized rust spots behind the way bar mount and said I sold him a rusty pile, and he wanted half his money back! I offered him a couple thousand dollars which I said would more than cover the small spots. He said his mechanic said the car should be cut up for spares. This was the car. Some people are just cray-cray!
Cut it up for spares! You can't make this stuff up!

[Coondog]

Sorry this does not pass the smell test. You buy a 914 fixer upper for $1,500 dollars and expect it to be something other then a POS which is all your going to get at that price. Seems he threw in a extra $1,500 of parts to make you happy.

Plus who in the Fuch buys a POS 914 for $1,500 and ships it halfway around the world..... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/screwy.gif)

[tvdinnerbythepool]

My 914 is on the road today largely due to parts (some free) from Mark.
I will gladly do business with him again.
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[TonyA]

Buying stuff site unseen is always a gamble but I would take that gamble with Mark any day.

[MM1]

Hey Mark, I feel for you buddy. I've been in the service business since '79. Dealing with screwballs is a part of dealing with the public. I haven't met this character but I do know him through years of dealing with the public. They are few and far between, thank goodness. Take comfort in knowing you are not the first or last person he will "dump" on. I wouldn't be surprised if this isn't his MO. It's obvious to all here that he he prefers taking the "low road". His "Thunder" consists of unfounded accusations and martyrdom with accents of hypochondria. If I were you I wouldn't honor any of his accusations with a reply. Nor do you need to defend your integrity. This is the first negative comment about you that I've heard in your 10+ years here. Continue your journey on the High Road my friend. You'd be lost elsewhere. Kent

It's been my experience there are a few more screwballs in the UK then elsewhere, and I've sold cars all over the world. My favorite was a 70S I sold to a guy, I said it was "rust free". He got the car, took a grinder to the whole underside, found 3 dime sized rust spots behind the way bar mount and said I sold him a rusty pile, and he wanted half his money back! I offered him a couple thousand dollars which I said would more than cover the small spots. He said his mechanic said the car should be cut up for spares. This was the car. Some people are just cray-cray!
Cut it up for spares! You can't make this stuff up!

Uhhh - I'd probably sacrifice a digit to have a "bloody rust bucket" like that! Please PM me if you want to unload any more old "rusty" Georgia peaches!

[mepstein]

Major hell hole rust as noted and definitely a project car but not what I’d call a POS, although I take no offense from Coondog since I saw his beautiful car in person and California guys aren’t exposed to the rust monster like we are.
I bought it with 36k miles a couple years ago and put about 3k on the car. Oem windshield is almost perfect. I really only sold it because I want my shop to have room to work on cars and not just store them.
These are some pics of the car waiting to be picked up by the transport company.

[Unobtanium-inc]

Major hell hole rust as noted and definitely a project car but not what I’d call a POS, although I take no offense from Coondog since I saw his beautiful car in person and California guys aren’t exposed to the rust monster like we are.
I bought it with 36k miles a couple years ago and put about 3k on the car. Oem windshield is almost perfect. I really only sold it because I want my shop to have room to work on cars and not just store them.
These are some pics of the car waiting to be picked up by the transport company.

Yeah, $1500 for that car, you scoundral! I bet you laughed all the way to the bank. Some people are just angry.