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mepstein
post Dec 3 2020, 02:50 PM
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QUOTE(burton73 @ Dec 3 2020, 03:36 PM) *

Just want to point out that my 6 number 41 was converted to cowl fill in the early 70s
I have never seen one like this so we left it there like some of the other items that made this car cool.

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I don’t like through the hood fillers but I love this one.

Growing up with a 914 in NJ you learned to open up and close the hood yourself. Otherwise the attendant just stood at the back of the car and when they were done, would slam the hood down like an American car. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ar15.gif)
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post Dec 3 2020, 03:02 PM
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It's part of the enigma...kinda like having 2 trunks... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)
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post Dec 3 2020, 03:30 PM
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QUOTE(mepstein @ Dec 3 2020, 12:47 PM) *

Here’s why I thought Porsche planned for a fuel door. All the hoods have this cut out. Not just early.

Isn't that just there so the hood clears the trip-tray?
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post Dec 3 2020, 03:38 PM
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Dec 3 2020, 04:30 PM) *

QUOTE(mepstein @ Dec 3 2020, 12:47 PM) *

Here’s why I thought Porsche planned for a fuel door. All the hoods have this cut out. Not just early.

Isn't that just there so the hood clears the trip-tray?
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Probably.
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post Dec 3 2020, 03:40 PM
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QUOTE(burton73 @ Dec 3 2020, 12:36 PM) *

Just want to point out that my 6 number 41 was converted to cowl fill in the early 70s
I have never seen one like this so we left it there like some of the other items that made this car cool.

Bob B


How did they fit that in there? Looks like the filler is where the defrost or windshield washer goes?
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post Dec 3 2020, 03:42 PM
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QUOTE(mepstein @ Dec 3 2020, 12:50 PM) *

QUOTE(burton73 @ Dec 3 2020, 03:36 PM) *

Just want to point out that my 6 number 41 was converted to cowl fill in the early 70s
I have never seen one like this so we left it there like some of the other items that made this car cool.

Bob B


I don’t like through the hood fillers but I love this one.

Growing up with a 914 in NJ you learned to open up and close the hood yourself. Otherwise the attendant just stood at the back of the car and when they were done, would slam the hood down like an American car. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ar15.gif)

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I get the convenience thing, but those billet mustang fillers look like a sewer pipe cover.
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post Dec 3 2020, 03:58 PM
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This prototype did have the filler door in the hood.


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post Dec 3 2020, 04:22 PM
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[quote name='burton73' date='Dec 3 2020, 12:36 PM' post='2871797']
Just want to point out that my 6 number 41 was converted to cowl fill in the early 70s
I have never seen one like this so we left it there like some of the other items that made this car cool.

Bob B


And I thought that was one of Eric’s killer mods.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Dec 4 2020, 04:11 PM
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Hi Coondog buddie ,

From the PO on #41 This is the story on the fuel filler area built by Peter Dawe and an email note from Peter:

I have had many questions about the fuel filler area. Peter Dawe of Dawe's Motorsports helped build this car at Dick Troutmans's in the late 70s. I asked Petr how this was done, below is his answer.
Hi Lloyd (PO) From what i can remember the hinge and the flush mount latch was aircraft surplus. I believe all those parts are offered thru Aircraft Spruce Co. Peter welded a shaped piece of steel under the body cowl for the gas door to sit on . He also welded a fill pipe on to the gas tank. (Only for pros to weld) Then because of the pipe bends he had to put a vent from the original fill to the neck so the tank could be filled up to the top. All this was 20 years ago but I think thats about it. But you have to be as talented as Peter to do it right. Thats the TRICK. Thanks and happy holidays Petr Dawe


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post Dec 4 2020, 04:50 PM
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Not only does it mess with people because you are putting gas in the front of the car, but it also screws up the car 'stacking' in the multiple pump islands if you are at the front pump. Have to be careful the SUV that pulls in behind you doesn't hit the rear bumper.
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post Dec 4 2020, 08:42 PM
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QUOTE(burton73 @ Dec 4 2020, 05:11 PM) *
Hi Lloyd (PO) From what i can remember the hinge and the flush mount latch was aircraft surplus. I believe all those parts are offered thru Aircraft Spruce Co.

I'll vouch for that. First thing I thought of then I saw the door and the latch is that it looked exactly like the door latch on the oil dipstick access and external battery connector covers on my Grumman Tiger.

I like it. Very "sano". Not really worth the effort, IMO, but very clean.
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post Dec 4 2020, 11:45 PM
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the fender gas filler was no doubt nixed by VW as was probably the separate passengers seat and RHD as VW wanted to recoup their costs quickly. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)
I had always wondered what the filler arrangement was on the two -8s and the red pre production -6 featured in a number of early promotional pics.
Fast forward to the Essen show last year and on the Porsche stand was Ferry's silver -8.
So nothing ventured etc I asked one of the attendants if I could look under the lid so I could satisfy my long term curiousity - yes he said - I'll get the keys from the cleaner (!) and I took some pics for posterity.

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post Dec 5 2020, 08:57 AM
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Just think about it. If they would have put a fuel door it would have leaked and then
it would have rusted and then we would have another "Hell Hole" to worry about.
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post Dec 5 2020, 09:17 AM
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Dragging the fuel line over the car. Like watching people pull up to the pump at Costco with the fuel door on the other side of the car.
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post Dec 5 2020, 10:11 AM
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QUOTE(Superhawk996 @ Dec 3 2020, 02:08 PM) *

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Dec 3 2020, 02:48 PM) *

I like the fact that the fuel cap is secure behind a lock and one needs access to the inside of the car to get to the fuel inlet.
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It also enables lots of fun and games at gas stations.

I love the odd looks then the hood is up to fuel it. You can just tell most people can't wrap their mind around what they are watching. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

My favorite game used to be:

Question from observer: Where is the engine?
Me: I don't know . . . then a long pause . . . I've never thought about that.

Yeah I'm an (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bootyshake.gif)


And the gas tank is in the front??? YOU'RE GOING TO DIE IN A CRASH UP IN FLAMES!

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post Dec 5 2020, 11:13 AM
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QUOTE(bandjoey @ Dec 5 2020, 09:11 AM) *

And the gas tank is in the front??? YOU'RE GOING TO DIE IN A CRASH UP IN FLAMES!


Said the Pinto owner (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif)
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post Dec 5 2020, 11:18 AM
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QUOTE(bbrock @ Dec 5 2020, 12:13 PM) *

QUOTE(bandjoey @ Dec 5 2020, 09:11 AM) *

And the gas tank is in the front??? YOU'RE GOING TO DIE IN A CRASH UP IN FLAMES!


Said the Pinto owner (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif)

OH, I've told my wife many times that if that happens, just have a big loader pick up the wreck with my charred remains in it and drop it all in the 6ft hole.
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QUOTE(fixer34 @ Dec 4 2020, 05:50 PM) *

Not only does it mess with people because you are putting gas in the front of the car, but it also screws up the car 'stacking' in the multiple pump islands if you are at the front pump. Have to be careful the SUV that pulls in behind you doesn't hit the rear bumper.

Yeah; here in NJ one can't pump one's own gas, so I play with the attendants (particularly the younger ones) as they look for the filler door then eye me as I come around and open the frunk. Most ask questions and some even take photos as it seems that teeners never come around to gas stations around here. One fellow even pulled off the road to swing by to say "I used to have a 914 - haven't seen one for years! Nice ride!" then drove off.
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post Dec 5 2020, 12:06 PM
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QUOTE(Bleyseng @ Dec 3 2020, 01:58 PM) *

This prototype did have the filler door in the hood.


Looking at this pic, and wondering what happened to this car…

…one wonders if it could have been the prototype used to build the second 914S for Ferry? Might have to go dig Issue 000 up...
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post Dec 5 2020, 12:33 PM
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https://www.google.com/search?q=hidden+fuel...745&bih=852
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