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> Nuts and Bolts, Sourcing the right hardware.
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post Jan 10 2021, 05:52 AM
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Yup, Belmetric and also McMaster.
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QUOTE(iankarr @ Jan 10 2021, 12:32 AM) *

Thanks @914e for this great shopping list. Super helpful. I'd add M8 schnorr washers for the CV bolts (16...but since you need to replace at least 8 of them every time you drop the engine, I'd get 50).

I remember also using schnorr washers under the bolts on the strut tower plates.
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Good call. M10 yellow.
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resurrection:
The OE case through bolts used a "nylock" style nut that had a red top sealant on it.
Are those OE fasteners still available? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)
M10x1.25 17mm head 10mm tall part # 021101131E
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Porsche classic shows the Bolt & the thick washer but not the Nut?


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QUOTE(914e @ Jan 6 2021, 12:32 PM) *

Belmetric is amazing. Fed-ex just dropped a small heavy package. Free two day shipping. My daughters are asking me, dad did you just buy the metric hardware section of Ace?




Bookmarked their site, thanks!
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QUOTE(914werke @ May 3 2022, 02:36 PM) *

resurrection:
The OE case through bolts used a "nylock" style nut that had a red top sealant on it.
Are those OE fasteners still available? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)
M10x1.25 17mm head 10mm tall part # 021101131E
@CHIZ 914
Porsche classic shows the Bolt & the thick washer but not the Nut?



Rich,

I recently bought some of those nuts as they are used to seal the oil pump
I went to a VW bug shop on line and bought them

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Thanks Brant I see those M8 nuts are still available. Good to know.
Unfortunately not the M10 ones.
Funny I was corresponding with a rep from Belmetric & said they'd never seen anything like that before (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Jan 19 2023, 01:50 PM
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QUOTE(914e @ Jan 4 2021, 02:12 AM) *

QUOTE(Chaznaster @ Jan 3 2021, 05:54 PM) *

Hi All. As we dig deeper into our 914, we are finding a random assortment of nuts and bolts that I expect were incorporated into the car over the years. While I am not trying to source original hardware, I’d like to swap the odd ones out to be at more consistent (and, of course replacing any trashed/ rounded over/ damaged ones). Buying one or two at a time is going to get expensive and I cannot find a good reference for the right grade to use anyway (5.8, 8.8, 10.9, 12.9).
Is there a short list of the most common hardware found on our cars that I could use to start a collection of new ones?
Thank You!

I just happened to place an order with Belmetric, This isn't every nut bolt and screw. It is about every m5, 6, 8,10, and 12 except the engines hardware. I also have 3 German cars so there is few spares. I'm buying steel cabinets with plastic divided boxes from Bolt depot. My attempt to have an ACE hardware in my garage, plus the hardware will be the right color. I hope to cut back on my weekly runs to ACE and returning with a tiny bag of hardware that I spent $20 on.

10 x BR6X8YLW - Hex Bolt 8.8 Yellow Zinc $1.60
25 x BR6X10YLW - Hex Bolt 8.8 Yellow Zinc $4.25
25 x BR6X12YLW - Hex Bolt 8.8 Yellow Zinc $4.50
10 x BR6X14YLW - Hex Bolt 8.8 Yellow Zinc $2.30
25 x BR6X20YLW - Hex Bolt 8.8 Yellow Zinc $5.25
4 x BR6X18YLW - Hex Bolt 8.8 Yellow Zinc $0.96
4 x BR6X16YLW - Hex Bolt 8.8 Yellow Zinc $0.72
10 x BR6X30PYLW - Hex Bolt 8.8 Yellow Zinc Partial $2.30
25 x BR8X10YLW - Hex Bolt 8.8 Yellow Zinc $5.50
5 x BR8X14YLW - Hex Bolt 8.8 Yellow Zinc $1.45
20 x BR8X16YLW - Hex Bolt 8.8 Yellow Zinc $5.60
10 x BR8X20YLW - Hex Bolt 8.8 Yellow Zinc $2.90
10 x BR8X25YLW - Hex Bolt 8.8 Yellow Zinc $3.70
11 x BR8X30PYLW - Hex Bolt 8.8 Yellow Zinc Partial $4.29
10 x BR8X40PYLW - Hex Bolt 8.8 Yellow Zinc Partial $4.10
10 x BR8X45PYLW - Hex Bolt 8.8 Yellow Zinc Partial $4.50
4 x BR10X85YLW - Hex Bolt 8.8 Yellow Zinc $4.68
10 x BR10X18YLW - Hex Bolt 8.8 Yellow Zinc $4.70
10 x BR10X20YLW - Hex Bolt 8.8 Yellow Zinc $4.20
4 x BR10X22YLW - Hex Bolt 8.8 Yellow Zinc $1.88
4 x BR10X16YLW - Hex Bolt 8.8 Yellow Zinc $1.60
4 x BR10X25YLW - Hex Bolt 8.8 Yellow Zinc $1.88
4 x BR10X30YLW - Hex Bolt 8.8 Yellow Zinc $1.96
4 x BR10X35YLW - Hex Bolt 8.8 Yellow Zinc $2.24
10 x BR5X10YLW - Hex Bolt 8.8 Yellow Zinc $2.40
10 x BR5X20YLW - Hex Bolt 8.8 Yellow Zinc $2.40
4 x BR5X12YLW - Hex Bolt 8.8 Yellow Zinc $0.96
4 x BR5X22YLW - Hex Bolt 8.8 Yellow Zinc $0.96
4 x BR12X80PYLW - Hex Bolt 8.8 Yellow Zinc Partial $6.12
10 x BR12X30YLW - Hex Bolt 8.8 Yellow Zinc $7.10
4 x BR12X60PYLW - Hex Bolt 8.8 Yellow Zinc $3.56
50 x WF6YLW - Flat Washer Yellow Zinc $4.50
50 x WF8YLW - Flat Washer Yellow Zinc $6.00
20 x WF6X11YLW - Flat Washer Small OD Yellow Zinc $1.80
10 x WF8X15YLW - Flat Washer Small OD Yellow Zinc $1.20
25 x WFHV6YLW - Hardened Flat Washer Yellow Zinc $3.25
10 x WW6AMECYLW - Wave Washer Mechanical Yellow Zinc $1.20
10 x WW7BYLW - Wave Washer Yellow Zinc $2.10
10 x WSH6YLW - Schnorr Washer Yellow Zinc $1.90
10 x WSH7MECYLW- Schnorr Washer Mechanical Yellow Zinc $2.60
25 x WL5MECYLW - Lock Washer Mechanical Yellow Zinc $2.00
25 x WL6MECYLW - Lock Washer Mechanical Yellow Zinc $2.00
25 x WL8MECYLW - Lock Washer Mechanical Yellow Zinc $3.50
25 x WL10MECYLW - Lock Washer Mechanical Yellow Zinc $3.75
10 x WL12MECYLW - Lock Washer Mechanical Yellow Zinc $1.90
20 x NR6YLW - Hex Nut Yellow Zinc Class 8 $2.00
20 x NR8YLW - Hex Nut Yellow Zinc Class 8 $3.20
10 x NR10YLW - Hex Nut Yellow Zinc Class 8 $2.30
4 x NR12YLW - Hex Nut Yellow Zinc Class 8 $1.00
4 x NNFH6YLW - Nylock Flange Nut Yellow Zinc HARDENED $1.16
4 x NNFH8YLW - Nylock Flange Nut Yellow Zinc HARDENED $1.44
4 x NNFH10YLW - Nylock Flange Nut Yellow Zinc HARDENED $1.96
20 x E302NT - 6.3mm Uninsulated Spade 16-14 Gauge No Tab $7.00
20 x E922TABBRS - 6.3mm Uninsulated Spade 18-16 Gauge With Tab $6.80
4 x E308BRS - 6.3mm Uninsulated Male Spade With Tab 16-14 Gauge $2.04
10 x E922NTTIN - 6.3mm Uninsulated Spade 20-17 Gauge No Tab $4.00
$171.16Sub-Total:
$0.00Free Shipping Options (EXPECT DELAYS - Free Shipping):
$171.16


I put this list into a CSV file, which can be used on Belmetric's Quick Order page. You can edit the file, or it is probably easier to edit after it's been uploaded.
The Belmetric upload function is pretty hapless, if you make changes to the file that don't fit it's narrow requirements it will often just fail without any message.

Attached File  Belmetric_Hardware_Quick_Order__csv_.txt ( 1.02k ) Number of downloads: 62
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post Jan 19 2023, 07:11 PM
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QUOTE(zoomCat @ Jan 19 2023, 02:50 PM) *

QUOTE(914e @ Jan 4 2021, 02:12 AM) *

QUOTE(Chaznaster @ Jan 3 2021, 05:54 PM) *

Hi All. As we dig deeper into our 914, we are finding a random assortment of nuts and bolts that I expect were incorporated into the car over the years. While I am not trying to source original hardware, I’d like to swap the odd ones out to be at more consistent (and, of course replacing any trashed/ rounded over/ damaged ones). Buying one or two at a time is going to get expensive and I cannot find a good reference for the right grade to use anyway (5.8, 8.8, 10.9, 12.9).
Is there a short list of the most common hardware found on our cars that I could use to start a collection of new ones?
Thank You!

I just happened to place an order with Belmetric, This isn't every nut bolt and screw. It is about every m5, 6, 8,10, and 12 except the engines hardware. I also have 3 German cars so there is few spares. I'm buying steel cabinets with plastic divided boxes from Bolt depot. My attempt to have an ACE hardware in my garage, plus the hardware will be the right color. I hope to cut back on my weekly runs to ACE and returning with a tiny bag of hardware that I spent $20 on.

10 x BR6X8YLW - Hex Bolt 8.8 Yellow Zinc $1.60
25 x BR6X10YLW - Hex Bolt 8.8 Yellow Zinc $4.25
25 x BR6X12YLW - Hex Bolt 8.8 Yellow Zinc $4.50
10 x BR6X14YLW - Hex Bolt 8.8 Yellow Zinc $2.30
25 x BR6X20YLW - Hex Bolt 8.8 Yellow Zinc $5.25
4 x BR6X18YLW - Hex Bolt 8.8 Yellow Zinc $0.96
4 x BR6X16YLW - Hex Bolt 8.8 Yellow Zinc $0.72
10 x BR6X30PYLW - Hex Bolt 8.8 Yellow Zinc Partial $2.30
25 x BR8X10YLW - Hex Bolt 8.8 Yellow Zinc $5.50
5 x BR8X14YLW - Hex Bolt 8.8 Yellow Zinc $1.45
20 x BR8X16YLW - Hex Bolt 8.8 Yellow Zinc $5.60
10 x BR8X20YLW - Hex Bolt 8.8 Yellow Zinc $2.90
10 x BR8X25YLW - Hex Bolt 8.8 Yellow Zinc $3.70
11 x BR8X30PYLW - Hex Bolt 8.8 Yellow Zinc Partial $4.29
10 x BR8X40PYLW - Hex Bolt 8.8 Yellow Zinc Partial $4.10
10 x BR8X45PYLW - Hex Bolt 8.8 Yellow Zinc Partial $4.50
4 x BR10X85YLW - Hex Bolt 8.8 Yellow Zinc $4.68
10 x BR10X18YLW - Hex Bolt 8.8 Yellow Zinc $4.70
10 x BR10X20YLW - Hex Bolt 8.8 Yellow Zinc $4.20
4 x BR10X22YLW - Hex Bolt 8.8 Yellow Zinc $1.88
4 x BR10X16YLW - Hex Bolt 8.8 Yellow Zinc $1.60
4 x BR10X25YLW - Hex Bolt 8.8 Yellow Zinc $1.88
4 x BR10X30YLW - Hex Bolt 8.8 Yellow Zinc $1.96
4 x BR10X35YLW - Hex Bolt 8.8 Yellow Zinc $2.24
10 x BR5X10YLW - Hex Bolt 8.8 Yellow Zinc $2.40
10 x BR5X20YLW - Hex Bolt 8.8 Yellow Zinc $2.40
4 x BR5X12YLW - Hex Bolt 8.8 Yellow Zinc $0.96
4 x BR5X22YLW - Hex Bolt 8.8 Yellow Zinc $0.96
4 x BR12X80PYLW - Hex Bolt 8.8 Yellow Zinc Partial $6.12
10 x BR12X30YLW - Hex Bolt 8.8 Yellow Zinc $7.10
4 x BR12X60PYLW - Hex Bolt 8.8 Yellow Zinc $3.56
50 x WF6YLW - Flat Washer Yellow Zinc $4.50
50 x WF8YLW - Flat Washer Yellow Zinc $6.00
20 x WF6X11YLW - Flat Washer Small OD Yellow Zinc $1.80
10 x WF8X15YLW - Flat Washer Small OD Yellow Zinc $1.20
25 x WFHV6YLW - Hardened Flat Washer Yellow Zinc $3.25
10 x WW6AMECYLW - Wave Washer Mechanical Yellow Zinc $1.20
10 x WW7BYLW - Wave Washer Yellow Zinc $2.10
10 x WSH6YLW - Schnorr Washer Yellow Zinc $1.90
10 x WSH7MECYLW- Schnorr Washer Mechanical Yellow Zinc $2.60
25 x WL5MECYLW - Lock Washer Mechanical Yellow Zinc $2.00
25 x WL6MECYLW - Lock Washer Mechanical Yellow Zinc $2.00
25 x WL8MECYLW - Lock Washer Mechanical Yellow Zinc $3.50
25 x WL10MECYLW - Lock Washer Mechanical Yellow Zinc $3.75
10 x WL12MECYLW - Lock Washer Mechanical Yellow Zinc $1.90
20 x NR6YLW - Hex Nut Yellow Zinc Class 8 $2.00
20 x NR8YLW - Hex Nut Yellow Zinc Class 8 $3.20
10 x NR10YLW - Hex Nut Yellow Zinc Class 8 $2.30
4 x NR12YLW - Hex Nut Yellow Zinc Class 8 $1.00
4 x NNFH6YLW - Nylock Flange Nut Yellow Zinc HARDENED $1.16
4 x NNFH8YLW - Nylock Flange Nut Yellow Zinc HARDENED $1.44
4 x NNFH10YLW - Nylock Flange Nut Yellow Zinc HARDENED $1.96
20 x E302NT - 6.3mm Uninsulated Spade 16-14 Gauge No Tab $7.00
20 x E922TABBRS - 6.3mm Uninsulated Spade 18-16 Gauge With Tab $6.80
4 x E308BRS - 6.3mm Uninsulated Male Spade With Tab 16-14 Gauge $2.04
10 x E922NTTIN - 6.3mm Uninsulated Spade 20-17 Gauge No Tab $4.00
$171.16Sub-Total:
$0.00Free Shipping Options (EXPECT DELAYS - Free Shipping):
$171.16


I put this list into a CSV file, which can be used on Belmetric's Quick Order page. You can edit the file, or it is probably easier to edit after it's been uploaded.
The Belmetric upload function is pretty hapless, if you make changes to the file that don't fit it's narrow requirements it will often just fail without any message.

Attached File  Belmetric_Hardware_Quick_Order__csv_.txt ( 1.02k ) Number of downloads: 62



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