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> Q's on how to move forward on my steering column situation
messick
post Jan 17 2021, 02:28 PM
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Short rundown on the history of my car:

Originally a '70 1.7L, converted to a 3.0L six. Would-be car thieves did lots of damage in their failed attempt, including taking a slide hammer to the ignition switch. 15 years later I'm (slowly) resurrecting the car. Now I have the steering column out, and I'm trying to fix the damage, plus fix other stuff that might be weird because of age and PO shenanigans.

Ok, after coming to terms that my Haynes manual and the posts I found on 914World didn't describe my steering column setup, I was able to get it out my car, and also the rest of the ignition switch apparatus out of the car.

Here are some pics:

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-24381-1610915293.1.jpg)
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-24381-1610915293.2.jpg)
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-24381-1610915293.3.jpg)

First off, Haynes and everyone else said to disconnect the turn signal switch connectors under the column and pull that part out. Except, my car didn't have those connectors. they went down to that large Porsche/VW connector visible in the first picture, and would be impossible to take the switch component out of the column anyway.

Second, the ignition switch itself has wires soldered into it that eventually were spliced/connected to other wires under the dash (see pic two). I haven't traced them all down, but one goes to the center console gauges to a terminal marked "key" in Sharpie. I'm guessing the others go places like a stereo amp I've removed, and perhaps to an unused car alarm component that I have also removed. All the ignition wires are spliced/connected to other under-dash wires, which the exception of a grey wire that connected to another grey wire coming out the turn signal wire bundle.

I can't find anywhere that has the same sort of ignition wire setup. Also, the splicing/connecting seems pretty amateur hour, so I'm would strongly guess the car didn't come this way, which is why I can't find anyone one else describing the same setup. Since it's a '70, the turn signal difference is probably that, but other differences just seem to be PO shenanigans.

Third, not related to the car thievery, but apparently the turn signal switch was inoperable. The most immediate PO was my father, and he said he had "temporarily" wired in an external turn single switch and had it taped to the dash.

So, between the ignition switch stuff I have to replace, and the broken turn signal switch that's seem to be soldered to the Porsche connector, I'm at a cross roads on how to move forward.

My dad has a later 914 ignition switch (with a pretty worn out key) but with apparently some sort of plug rather than wires out the back. So I could reuse that.

Otherwise, I'm open to suggestions.
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post Jan 17 2021, 04:28 PM
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QUOTE(messick @ Jan 17 2021, 12:28 PM) *

Short rundown on the history of my car:

Originally a '70 1.7L, converted to a 3.0L six. Would-be car thieves did lots of damage in their failed attempt, including taking a slide hammer to the ignition switch. 15 years later I'm (slowly) resurrecting the car. Now I have the steering column out, and I'm trying to fix the damage, plus fix other stuff that might be weird because of age and PO shenanigans.

Ok, after coming to terms that my Haynes manual and the posts I found on 914World didn't describe my steering column setup, I was able to get it out my car, and also the rest of the ignition switch apparatus out of the car.

Here are some pics:

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-24381-1610915293.1.jpg)
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-24381-1610915293.2.jpg)
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-24381-1610915293.3.jpg)

First off, Haynes and everyone else said to disconnect the turn signal switch connectors under the column and pull that part out. Except, my car didn't have those connectors. they went down to that large Porsche/VW connector visible in the first picture, and would be impossible to take the switch component out of the column anyway.

Second, the ignition switch itself has wires soldered into it that eventually were spliced/connected to other wires under the dash (see pic two). I haven't traced them all down, but one goes to the center console gauges to a terminal marked "key" in Sharpie. I'm guessing the others go places like a stereo amp I've removed, and perhaps to an unused car alarm component that I have also removed. All the ignition wires are spliced/connected to other under-dash wires, which the exception of a grey wire that connected to another grey wire coming out the turn signal wire bundle.

I can't find anywhere that has the same sort of ignition wire setup. Also, the splicing/connecting seems pretty amateur hour, so I'm would strongly guess the car didn't come this way, which is why I can't find anyone one else describing the same setup. Since it's a '70, the turn signal difference is probably that, but other differences just seem to be PO shenanigans.

Third, not related to the car thievery, but apparently the turn signal switch was inoperable. The most immediate PO was my father, and he said he had "temporarily" wired in an external turn single switch and had it taped to the dash.

So, between the ignition switch stuff I have to replace, and the broken turn signal switch that's seem to be soldered to the Porsche connector, I'm at a cross roads on how to move forward.

My dad has a later 914 ignition switch (with a pretty worn out key) but with apparently some sort of plug rather than wires out the back. So I could reuse that.

Otherwise, I'm open to suggestions.

Try buying a 1970 VW Bug upper steering column, or at least look at one. They use the same ignition switch electrical part; the steering lock tumbler mechanism is probably exactly the same too, since the turn signal/highbeam switch assembly is exactly the same between a Bug and a 1970 Porsche 914, at least it was on mine. The early 914's were a real parts bin special since they were trying to keep the cost of manufacturing them as low as possible.
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