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> 914Rubber Rear Trailing Arm Bushings, did I get the wrong ones?
bbrock
post Jan 25 2021, 08:54 PM
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I bought a set of the rubber rear trailing arm bushings in the 914Rubber GB when they first came out (can't remember when that was). I am just now getting around to installing them and ran into a problem. I did a test fit to see how hard they would be to install and was shocked to find I could easily slide them into the trailing arms by hand AND could slide the pivot shaft in by hand. In fact, I'm not seeing much difference from the polygraphite bushings they are meant to replace. If anything, these fit even looser. I'm wondering I was sent the wrong ones. My understanding is the rubber bushings should be a tight fit and require a press or similar to install as seen in Ian's video. Is there a good way to know what I have? These are stamped "WDG" on the flange side which is different from the stamping on the first set of bushings I bought.
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post Feb 5 2021, 07:41 PM
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Well, since it was clear the 914R bushings are not going to work for me, I decided to bite the bullet and buy a set of Elephant Racing bushings. You can buy just the bushings without tools or pivot shafts for $200 and they sell the two installation tools for $40 each. $280 for four little chunks of rubber still seems pretty steep, but that's $90 off the full kit price.

The ER bushings are significantly different from the 914R. Here is a Daystar poly/graphite on the left, 914Rubber OE replacement bushing in the middle, and ER on the right.

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As expected, the poly/graphite is quite a bit harder than the others. I don't have a way to measure durometer but the old pinch test says it takes about the same force to compress the cylinders of the 914R and ER bushings. The 914R material might be a little harder than ER but the wall of the 914R bushing is thinner and that might make it appear harder. If there is a difference, it isn't easy to detect by pinching. Here is a side by side of 914R (left) and ER (right) where you can see a difference in wall thickness.

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Another major difference is that the ER bushing is quite a bit shorter than the other two and has a recessed groove just below the outer flange.

Here are some measurements of the three bushings in millimeters.

Numbers are arranged Height, Wall Thickness, ID, OD

Daystar 54.45, 5.0, 28.14, 37.94

914Rubber 54.02, 5.13, 28.79, 38.33

Elephant Racing 45.81, 6.73, 26.38, 40.04

Of course, the real test is how do the ER bushings fit. I installed a pair using a large pipe clamp and the instructions included. The bushings required liquid soap lube to push into the trailing arms. I did it by hand but it took considerable effort. That was a good sign. Cranking the shaft in with the pipe clamp wasn't the worst thing I've done, but it sure wore out my arm by the time it was done. It took some serious pressure to work it in and I sure wouldn't try doing both arms without a good break in between. The end result is that the shafts are in and they are TIGHT (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cheer.gif)

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My honest opinion is that the 914R bushings need more development to fit the variances in trailing arm IDs out there.
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QUOTE(bbrock @ Feb 5 2021, 05:41 PM) *

Well, since it was clear the 914R bushings are not going to work for me, I decided to bite the bullet and buy a set of Elephant Racing bushings. You can buy just the bushings without tools or pivot shafts for $200 and they sell the two installation tools for $40 each. $280 for four little chunks of rubber still seems pretty steep, but that's $90 off the full kit price.

The ER bushings are significantly different from the 914R. Here is a Daystar poly/graphite on the left, 914Rubber OE replacement bushing in the middle, and ER on the right.

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As expected, the poly/graphite is quite a bit harder than the others. I don't have a way to measure durometer but the old pinch test says it takes about the same force to compress the cylinders of the 914R and ER bushings. The 914R material might be a little harder than ER but the wall of the 914R bushing is thinner and that might make it appear harder. If there is a difference, it isn't easy to detect by pinching. Here is a side by side of 914R (left) and ER (right) where you can see a difference in wall thickness.

Attached Image

Another major difference is that the ER bushing is quite a bit shorter than the other two and has a recessed groove just below the outer flange.

Here are some measurements of the three bushings in millimeters.

Numbers are arranged Height, Wall Thickness, ID, OD

Daystar 54.45, 5.0, 28.14, 37.94

914Rubber 54.02, 5.13, 28.79, 38.33

Elephant Racing 45.81, 6.73, 26.38, 40.04

Of course, the real test is how do the ER bushings fit. I installed a pair using a large pipe clamp and the instructions included. The bushings required liquid soap lube to push into the trailing arms. I did it by hand but it took considerable effort. That was a good sign. Cranking the shaft in with the pipe clamp wasn't the worst thing I've done, but it sure wore out my arm by the time it was done. It took some serious pressure to work it in and I sure wouldn't try doing both arms without a good break in between. The end result is that the shafts are in and they are TIGHT (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cheer.gif)

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My honest opinion is that the 914R bushings need more development to fit the variances in trailing arm IDs out there.




The most important thing to remember about doing this is that the serrated portion on the end there is clear of the outside flange of the shaft which then is bolted to the suspension ear with the special nut. It is most important that the two surfaces are NOT in the same plane. Otherwise the nut can come loose because it will want to compress the flange of the bushing as shown in the first photo.

The other thing about the poly bushings are that because of the material and the fit...they may squeak. To solve this you can drill a zerk fitting in the arm after the bushing is installed to just clear the inner surface. Use an angled zerk...unless you have an angled fitting on the the gun....ask me how I know.

My .02 from experience.
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bbrock   914Rubber Rear Trailing Arm Bushings   Jan 25 2021, 08:54 PM
914Sixer   Sounds like the rubber shrank. Yous should not be...   Jan 25 2021, 09:39 PM
Mikey914   They are not so easy to actually install. The OD o...   Jan 25 2021, 11:14 PM
bbrock   They are not so easy to actually install. The OD ...   Jan 25 2021, 11:44 PM
BeatNavy   They are not so easy to actually install. The OD...   Jan 26 2021, 06:26 AM
Arno914   As far as I have learned, suspension rubber bushin...   Jan 26 2021, 01:49 AM
Superhawk996   Rut Roh! Could it be that you're using ...   Jan 26 2021, 06:39 AM
bbrock   Rut Roh! Could it be that you're using...   Jan 26 2021, 09:22 AM
bdstone914   @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?show...   Jan 26 2021, 09:28 AM
Montreal914   [quote name='bbrock' post='2885799' date='Jan 25 ...   Jan 26 2021, 11:59 AM
bbrock   The problem is that the trailing arm holes can ...   Jan 26 2021, 01:00 PM
bdstone914   [quote name='Montreal914' post='2885952' date='Ja...   Jan 26 2021, 02:29 PM
Montreal914   [quote name='Montreal914' post='2885952' date='J...   Jan 26 2021, 03:04 PM
76-914   They're not the torsion bar bushings are they?...   Jan 26 2021, 10:28 AM
Mikey914   Very interesting, I have never been able to slide ...   Jan 26 2021, 02:40 PM
Mikey914   Yes those are mine I recognize the taper at the bo...   Jan 26 2021, 03:29 PM
bbrock   Okay, I have some pics and numbers. But first, my...   Jan 26 2021, 07:31 PM
Montreal914   I believe we have a very similar setup. My trailin...   Jan 26 2021, 08:46 PM
pete000   Well at least they were easy to install by hand wi...   Jan 26 2021, 08:52 PM
Montreal914   Well at least they were easy to install by hand w...   Jan 26 2021, 08:54 PM
76-914   :agree: that is not a good thing!   Jan 26 2021, 11:10 PM
Arno914   I believe the small step in diameter on the origin...   Jan 27 2021, 04:03 AM
bdstone914   I believe the small step in diameter on the origi...   Jan 27 2021, 06:36 AM
bbrock   Well, since it was clear the 914R bushings are not...   Feb 5 2021, 07:41 PM
914_teener   Well, since it was clear the 914R bushings are no...   Feb 6 2021, 03:13 PM
Montreal914   Thank you for sharing :trophy: There is quite ...   Feb 5 2021, 11:05 PM
bbrock   Can you share a picture of the tooling? Of cour...   Feb 6 2021, 12:05 PM
Montreal914   Very clear! :)   Feb 6 2021, 12:37 PM
Superhawk996   :cheer: I've decided to go with 85 duro RD b...   Feb 6 2021, 12:44 PM


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