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> Modern trailing arms for the 914?, 986 carriers/calipers/e-brake, more adjustability, more tire?
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I've been reviewing past discussions on these (links below) off and on, having test fit a 215/60R15 Pirelli P6000 on a 911R wheel into both rear fenders of my narrow-body 914. It seems doable, but it's going to take some massaging on the outer fender, custom spacers, and—maybe—narrowed trailing arms. Which got me to thinking about the current state of the 914 trailing arm, which is the same it's been since 1970.

Basically, those heavy, non-adjustable steel trailing arms are one of the very few things on the 914 that hasn't been addressed or evolved by the aftermarket.

I'm running PMB-rebuilt trailing arms with PMB-rebuilt calipers, and can redo them again with reinforcements and/or some reshaping, but I wonder how hard would it be to do blade-type trailing arms of similar strength with less weight and/or more adjustment. Could a 911 spring plate, or a triangulated or otherwise reinforced version of it, be adapted? Looking at the basic design of the 914 arm, it doesn't look all that complicated, but I'm no engineer.

EDIT: Possible use of a machined 986 wheel carrier, an aluminum casting by Brembo that incorporates the 986 e-brake and 986 four-piston caliper mounts, comes up later—a very interesting idea from @Chris914n6, particularly as the castings are available for $100-200ea used or new from Porsche. Bolting that carrier to a new steel trailing arm with a lower damper mount seems viable to me, but here to learn.

The custom work to narrow factory 914 trailing arms looks extensive, but has been done by both @914timo and @sixnotfour as well as, it looks like, Rich Johnson. I could see doing it in the process of moving to 911 e-brakes and 986 2.5 brakes, maybe, but I wonder if a group buy might attract a 914 vendor we all want to support?

Relevant threads:

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...p;#entry1247827

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...ailing&st=0

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...238144&st=0

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...234391&st=0
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horizontally-opposed   Modern trailing arms for the 914?   Jan 26 2021, 12:21 PM
Mark Henry   I'll look through the links later, interesting...   Jan 26 2021, 12:32 PM
horizontally-opposed   Test fit of 215/60R15 in stock rear fenders:   Jan 26 2021, 12:32 PM
horizontally-opposed   And on a 911R wheel with stacked washers to optimi...   Jan 26 2021, 12:37 PM
horizontally-opposed   Interference!   Jan 26 2021, 12:40 PM
eeyore   If you want to go off into the weeds for ideas, lo...   Jan 26 2021, 04:21 PM
gms   I have always thought it would be great if someone...   Jan 26 2021, 04:34 PM
horizontally-opposed   I have always thought it would be great if someon...   Jan 26 2021, 04:45 PM
Chris914n6   On factory 16x7s, right? I have seen it done a f...   Jan 26 2021, 09:37 PM
Chris914n6   I have a 225/50-16 stuffed in the rear. I ran out ...   Jan 26 2021, 04:41 PM
SirAndy   From the looks of it, even if you did use slimmer ...   Jan 26 2021, 04:48 PM
horizontally-opposed   From the looks of it, even if you did use slimmer...   Jan 26 2021, 04:54 PM
914forme   I ran 225 on 15s never 16s, spacers where used for...   Jan 26 2021, 05:34 PM
mskala   I'm not sure of your goal, here. Is your desi...   Jan 26 2021, 07:22 PM
mepstein   Pete - I don't think you will get wider tires ...   Jan 26 2021, 08:00 PM
horizontally-opposed   Pete - I don't think you will get wider tires...   Jan 26 2021, 08:10 PM
horizontally-opposed   ^ Several people have narrowed the trailing arms. ...   Jan 26 2021, 08:08 PM
horizontally-opposed   Silver cookie setup looks good to me. :chow: As ...   Jan 26 2021, 10:21 PM
Chris914n6   I have a set of 225/50-15 on Fuchs I've been w...   Jan 27 2021, 01:57 AM
mskala   I wasn't trying to judge what you're doing...   Jan 27 2021, 06:53 AM
Racer   its my recollection that the Maxlite 911R wheel is...   Jan 27 2021, 07:02 AM
Andyrew   My issue has always been rubbing the top of the ch...   Jan 27 2021, 08:19 AM
mepstein   Pete - Just buy this.   Jan 27 2021, 09:04 AM
914forme   The original Sheridan car had a custom set of rear...   Jan 27 2021, 07:11 PM
horizontally-opposed   The original Sheridan car had a custom set of rea...   Jan 27 2021, 07:51 PM
horizontally-opposed   Thinking more down this road…though 914 unibody ...   Jan 27 2021, 07:57 PM
sixnotfour   Half way there..   Jan 28 2021, 06:33 AM
horizontally-opposed   Half way there.. Holy moly…   Jan 28 2021, 09:48 AM
rick 918-S   I totally get the look. 15's with vintage look...   Jan 28 2021, 07:39 AM
horizontally-opposed   I totally get the look. 15's with vintage loo...   Jan 28 2021, 09:54 AM
Montreal914   A few years back, planning on my 5 lugs upgrade, I...   Jan 28 2021, 10:25 AM
horizontally-opposed   A few years back, planning on my 5 lugs upgrade, ...   Jan 28 2021, 10:59 AM
Montreal914   Thank you for this very valuable information :trop...   Jan 28 2021, 01:54 PM
horizontally-opposed   ^ You are welcome, but @sixnotfour is probably o...   Jan 28 2021, 02:20 PM
mepstein   Pete - Have you weighed a 914 trailing arm. They l...   Jan 28 2021, 02:45 PM
horizontally-opposed   Pete - Have you weighed a 914 trailing arm. They ...   Jan 28 2021, 03:28 PM
mepstein   Pete - Have you weighed a 914 trailing arm. They...   Jan 28 2021, 04:23 PM
ClayPerrine   Just put this under the back of your 914. Better s...   Jan 28 2021, 03:35 PM
horizontally-opposed   Just put this under the back of your 914. Better ...   Jan 28 2021, 03:44 PM
rick 918-S   If I had my new shop set up I would build a gig an...   Jan 28 2021, 04:30 PM
horizontally-opposed   If I had my new shop set up I would build a gig a...   Jan 28 2021, 06:15 PM
mskala   Thanks for this, and very cool to see. I've s...   Jan 28 2021, 06:49 PM
Eric_Shea   We could play with it if you want...   Jan 28 2021, 04:35 PM
mskala   7.5"x16 ET38 wheels, minimal spacers differen...   Jan 28 2021, 05:01 PM
mepstein   185/70 front & 215/60R15 rear was standard for...   Jan 28 2021, 07:33 PM
horizontally-opposed   185/70 front & 215/60R15 rear was standard fo...   Jan 28 2021, 11:23 PM
Chris914n6   ~21.5 lbs as seen. Scale might not be 100% accurat...   Jan 29 2021, 02:16 AM
mepstein   ~21.5 lbs as seen. Scale might not be 100% accura...   Jan 29 2021, 07:40 AM
horizontally-opposed   [quote name='Chris914n6' post='2886667' date='Jan...   Jan 29 2021, 10:05 AM
mepstein   [quote name='Chris914n6' post='2886667' date='Ja...   Jan 29 2021, 10:34 AM
horizontally-opposed   Thanks Chris! A little lighter than I expect...   Jan 29 2021, 10:02 AM
ClayPerrine   The factory trailing arms were designed with narro...   Jan 29 2021, 10:38 AM
Superhawk996   The factory trailing arms were designed with narr...   Jan 29 2021, 11:18 AM
horizontally-opposed   This one would take a village to get done, but I t...   Jan 29 2021, 11:35 AM
live free & drive   Maybe one could get an mechanical engineering gra...   Jan 29 2021, 03:31 PM
rgalla9146   How's this ? A single large monoball at...   Jan 29 2021, 03:39 PM
Chris914n6   How's this ? A single large monoball a...   Jan 29 2021, 04:51 PM
horizontally-opposed   Open to all ideas, as this is all about spitballin...   Jan 29 2021, 05:06 PM
mepstein   Open to all ideas, as this is all about spitballi...   Jan 29 2021, 06:34 PM
mb911   I would need you to put things down on paper or a ...   Jan 29 2021, 06:48 PM
Chris914n6   Cut down Boxster rear hub assm and just weld alumi...   Jan 29 2021, 08:24 PM
andys   Having gone down the path of custom trailing arms ...   Jan 29 2021, 08:52 PM
live free & drive   As a point of reference this thread on the weight ...   Jan 29 2021, 09:19 PM
914werke   Im sure its been documented somewhere on here befo...   Jan 30 2021, 12:39 AM
rick 918-S   Anyone have a 914 arm they can post laying the sam...   Jan 30 2021, 04:39 AM
horizontally-opposed   Cut down Boxster rear hub assm and just weld alum...   Jan 30 2021, 10:31 AM
horizontally-opposed   986 wheel carriers, Porsche-engineered, made in It...   Jan 30 2021, 10:47 AM
horizontally-opposed   A couple more images. The 986S and 986.2 went to...   Jan 30 2021, 10:58 AM
rick 918-S   My thought was to see if a 911 arm could be source...   Jan 30 2021, 03:56 PM
horizontally-opposed   My thought was to see if a 911 arm could be sourc...   Jan 31 2021, 11:16 AM
horizontally-opposed   There are a lot of interesting starting points, fr...   Jan 31 2021, 11:26 AM
horizontally-opposed   Elephant offers a surprising number of choices—b...   Jan 31 2021, 11:29 AM
horizontally-opposed   And yet another option from Elephant… Not sure ...   Jan 31 2021, 11:29 AM
stownsen914   A while back I looked into redesigning the 914 rea...   Jan 31 2021, 12:21 PM
rgalla9146   My GT conversion. Is this lighter and strong...   Jan 31 2021, 02:19 PM
horizontally-opposed   My GT conversion. Is this lighter and stron...   Jan 31 2021, 03:19 PM
914werke   Gawd that's Purtty! :D   Jan 31 2021, 02:44 PM
mepstein   Rory also has some suspension console reinforcemen...   Jan 31 2021, 02:48 PM
rgalla9146   Rory also has some suspension console reinforceme...   Jan 31 2021, 04:33 PM
horizontally-opposed   [quote name='mepstein' post='2887224' date='Jan 3...   Jan 31 2021, 05:12 PM
rick 918-S   Some of that 911 gear looks like a Rube Goldberg d...   Jan 31 2021, 03:56 PM
horizontally-opposed   Some of that 911 gear looks like a Rube Goldberg ...   Jan 31 2021, 05:16 PM
eeyore   @groot Any thoughts?   Jan 31 2021, 05:01 PM
rgalla9146   As for Petes question about internal condition of ...   Jan 31 2021, 05:05 PM
horizontally-opposed   And then you consider the work that people are doi...   Jan 31 2021, 05:36 PM
groot   Me? Lots of thoughts... about what? >:D I ex...   Jan 31 2021, 06:12 PM
914forme   I have been thinking about this a lot, and came up...   Jan 31 2021, 08:03 PM
barefoot   I have been thinking about this a lot, and came u...   Feb 1 2021, 11:45 AM
914forme   I have been thinking about this a lot, and came ...   Feb 2 2021, 09:53 AM
horizontally-opposed   ^ Good inputs. Would be curious for an engineer...   Feb 1 2021, 01:03 PM
rgalla9146   ^ Good inputs. Would be curious for an engineer...   Feb 1 2021, 05:43 PM
eric914   Ive just skimmed though this thread but it present...   Feb 1 2021, 03:28 PM
stownsen914   If you're fabricating and really want light, I...   Feb 1 2021, 05:50 PM
rgalla9146   If you're fabricating and really want light, ...   Feb 1 2021, 06:07 PM
914forme   Pete While I find the topic intriguing I wonder w...   Feb 2 2021, 10:32 AM
914Toy   While repairing damage to my 914's passenger r...   Feb 2 2021, 11:17 AM
horizontally-opposed   Pete While I find the topic intriguing I wonder ...   Feb 2 2021, 03:19 PM
burton73   Sorry for my mess on my pouring table but this is ...   Feb 2 2021, 01:51 PM
mepstein   I'm still confused when you say $2-4K to ...   Feb 2 2021, 04:10 PM
horizontally-opposed   I'm still confused when you say $2-4K to...   Feb 2 2021, 04:23 PM
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