Modern trailing arms for the 914?, 986 carriers/calipers/e-brake, more adjustability, more tire? |
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Modern trailing arms for the 914?, 986 carriers/calipers/e-brake, more adjustability, more tire? |
horizontally-opposed |
Jan 26 2021, 12:21 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,431 Joined: 12-May 04 From: San Francisco Member No.: 2,058 Region Association: None |
I've been reviewing past discussions on these (links below) off and on, having test fit a 215/60R15 Pirelli P6000 on a 911R wheel into both rear fenders of my narrow-body 914. It seems doable, but it's going to take some massaging on the outer fender, custom spacers, and—maybe—narrowed trailing arms. Which got me to thinking about the current state of the 914 trailing arm, which is the same it's been since 1970.
Basically, those heavy, non-adjustable steel trailing arms are one of the very few things on the 914 that hasn't been addressed or evolved by the aftermarket. I'm running PMB-rebuilt trailing arms with PMB-rebuilt calipers, and can redo them again with reinforcements and/or some reshaping, but I wonder how hard would it be to do blade-type trailing arms of similar strength with less weight and/or more adjustment. Could a 911 spring plate, or a triangulated or otherwise reinforced version of it, be adapted? Looking at the basic design of the 914 arm, it doesn't look all that complicated, but I'm no engineer. EDIT: Possible use of a machined 986 wheel carrier, an aluminum casting by Brembo that incorporates the 986 e-brake and 986 four-piston caliper mounts, comes up later—a very interesting idea from @Chris914n6, particularly as the castings are available for $100-200ea used or new from Porsche. Bolting that carrier to a new steel trailing arm with a lower damper mount seems viable to me, but here to learn. The custom work to narrow factory 914 trailing arms looks extensive, but has been done by both @914timo and @sixnotfour as well as, it looks like, Rich Johnson. I could see doing it in the process of moving to 911 e-brakes and 986 2.5 brakes, maybe, but I wonder if a group buy might attract a 914 vendor we all want to support? Relevant threads: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...p;#entry1247827 http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...ailing&st=0 http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...238144&st=0 http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...234391&st=0 |
rick 918-S |
Jan 31 2021, 03:56 PM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,443 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region |
Some of that 911 gear looks like a Rube Goldberg devise. I having a hard time imagining those parts not flexing (twisting) under a torsional load.
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horizontally-opposed |
Jan 31 2021, 05:16 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,431 Joined: 12-May 04 From: San Francisco Member No.: 2,058 Region Association: None |
Some of that 911 gear looks like a Rube Goldberg devise. I having a hard time imagining those parts not flexing (twisting) under a torsional load. Haha. Can't disagree, though I am not qualified to comment. With that said, the $250-350~ pair of spring plates with ride height adjustment might be a better starting point than $2,500 moon gear. Narrower, too. And if camber can be adjusted at the wheel carrier…or just stick with the shims, which work fine. One thing I am noticing in looking at images of the 901/911 tub is that its upside of more room inboard for that banana arm appears to be offset by the way the 901/911 tub drops down—the 914 has more room for its one-piece trailing arm. Need an engineer to tell us which is "better," if one is, but if there's one thing I have learned while studying Porsche, it's that the 914 benefitted from another 3-5 years of learning at Porsche—not to mention the skyward engineering ambitions of a young Ferdinand Piëch. Yes, that one—the 917, Quattro, and Veyron guy. Also, the Phaeton… Attached thumbnail(s) Attached image(s) |
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