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New shop, new lift |
Dr Evil |
Jan 26 2021, 01:10 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 22,995 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I finally got my own two post lift for this shop. I live near a distributor and it was fair priced so it was a simple matter of prep and pay. The old barn that now houses EvilWerks has a floor that was supposedly poured in 1974, per the marks left attesting to such. However, its a barn, and it is a hodgepodge of things so I was not confident in the thickness of the concrete when I drilled a few pilot holes to check thickness. So, new footers were done.
Measure out locations, and mark 3x3' spots. With the hose running, and using the saw my new neighbor was able to lend us, cut on the lines. Beat the hell out of the cut section, find out that there is one 2" floor poured over another variable depth floor. Feel good about decision to pour new footers. Drill holes into existing floor and epoxy rebar, lash screen to rebar. Mix and pour concrete. Messy job all around, but worth it and cost maybe $300 for rental of a mixer and supplies. Neighbor also had the epoxy so didnt have to buy, as well as some rebar. Install 9000# Triumph lift. This one is the one that fit. Still needs to be wired up, but I have not had time. Now, I can have customers drop off their car and I can remove and install, test, etc here at home. |
914Sixer |
Jan 26 2021, 01:59 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,872 Joined: 17-January 05 From: San Angelo Texas Member No.: 3,457 Region Association: Southwest Region |
All right, your getting there (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif)
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914forme |
Jan 26 2021, 07:15 PM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None |
Contact for the distributor, I need a new lift.
Closest one I knew was Greg Smith over in Indy |
AmjadY |
Jan 26 2021, 07:37 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 29 Joined: 22-September 13 From: Detroit Member No.: 16,417 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Very Nice. Congrats on the lift. You will love it! and smart decision on the re-pour of the concrete.
Jed |
Dr Evil |
Jan 26 2021, 07:43 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 22,995 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Contact for the distributor, I need a new lift. Closest one I knew was Greg Smith over in Indy https://nationalautotools.com |
Spoke |
Jan 26 2021, 08:19 PM
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Jerry Group: Members Posts: 6,978 Joined: 29-October 04 From: Allentown, PA Member No.: 3,031 Region Association: None |
Looking good. How deep did you make the concrete footers?
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FourBlades |
Jan 26 2021, 08:23 PM
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From Wreck to Rockin Group: Members Posts: 2,054 Joined: 3-December 07 From: Brevard, FL Member No.: 8,414 Region Association: South East States |
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Dr Evil |
Jan 26 2021, 10:28 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 22,995 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
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AZBanks |
Jan 26 2021, 10:50 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,058 Joined: 7-December 05 From: New River, AZ Member No.: 5,245 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Very Nice! Congrats
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76-914 |
Jan 26 2021, 11:05 PM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,494 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California |
Mesh to rebar? Why not rebar to rebar? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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horizontally-opposed |
Jan 26 2021, 11:27 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,431 Joined: 12-May 04 From: San Francisco Member No.: 2,058 Region Association: None |
Looks good. Two-post lift…the stuff of dreams to many a weekend hobbyist, this one included.
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wonkipop |
Jan 27 2021, 05:51 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,253 Joined: 6-May 20 From: north antarctica Member No.: 24,231 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
because you cut the mesh out to cut the hole in the concrete. it goes out with the concrete you cut out. the rebar you can see are "ties" epoxied into the slab to tie the new mesh in the new pads to the old slab. no other way to do it. very similar to how you tie two separate concrete slab pours together. though they often weld or tie the mesh to those rebar joiners. and the joiners are often more a tube with a bar slipped inside. but its hard to do that with an existing slab its done properly. it will work. the pads look big enough. though my engineer would probably make me do pads about 450mm deep. foot and a half. but engineers do like to use a lot of concrete. does that make sense. |
930cabman |
Jan 27 2021, 06:04 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,007 Joined: 12-November 20 From: Buffalo Member No.: 24,877 Region Association: North East States |
You have 3'x3'= 9 square feet at 8" thick, all is good. How long will you let the new concrete cure?
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Dr Evil |
Jan 27 2021, 11:37 AM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 22,995 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
You have 3'x3'= 9 square feet at 8" thick, all is good. How long will you let the new concrete cure? It cured for two weeks or so over the holidays waiting for installers for the lift. I wasn’t in a rush. The company said I needed only 4.5”, but I didn’t like that. 8” better and not all that much more. |
76-914 |
Jan 27 2021, 11:52 AM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,494 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California |
because you cut the mesh out to cut the hole in the concrete. it goes out with the concrete you cut out. the rebar you can see are "ties" epoxied into the slab to tie the new mesh in the new pads to the old slab. no other way to do it. very similar to how you tie two separate concrete slab pours together. though they often weld or tie the mesh to those rebar joiners. and the joiners are often more a tube with a bar slipped inside. but its hard to do that with an existing slab its done properly. it will work. the pads look big enough. though my engineer would probably make me do pads about 450mm deep. foot and a half. but engineers do like to use a lot of concrete. does that make sense. I've cut a lot of slabs and whenever we cut one that has rebar we tie rebar back into it. We drill 3" deep holes midway into the concrete walls angled slightly down, insert a piece of rebar about long enough to reach 3/4's the span of the cut then bend it down until horizontal. The same is repeated for the opposing side. Then the 2 pieces, now running alongside one another, are tied together with wire. This is repeated @ ~12" intervals. No epoxy. We do the same when cutting across driveways as they are load bearing. Even if the original pour used mesh. I suppose you can get away with using mesh if the soil is stable. Cheers! |
Root_Werks |
Jan 27 2021, 03:16 PM
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Village Idiot Group: Members Posts: 8,308 Joined: 25-May 04 From: About 5NM from Canada Member No.: 2,105 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Now that is done right! How cool!
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TonyA |
Jan 27 2021, 03:57 PM
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Nachmal Group: Members Posts: 460 Joined: 17-November 16 From: Hilltown PA Member No.: 20,596 Region Association: North East States |
Looks good to me. I liked all the comments on re-bar and mesh so I had to put my 2 cents in also. It all doesn't mean squat if the concrete in mixed way to wet, it will just flake off the top and just crumble away.
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bigkensteele |
Jan 27 2021, 05:35 PM
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Major Member Group: Members Posts: 2,197 Joined: 30-August 04 From: Cincinnati, OH Member No.: 2,660 Region Association: South East States |
Did you move again, or is that a separate property from your house? What ever happened with the garage you were wanting to build?
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930cabman |
Jan 27 2021, 05:48 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,007 Joined: 12-November 20 From: Buffalo Member No.: 24,877 Region Association: North East States |
It's all engineering and it sounds as though you had one. From my perspective, I may have NOT connected the existing slab. Let the slab move around and let the foundations for the lift stand alone with an expansion between. Only .02
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914forme |
Jan 27 2021, 06:58 PM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None |
Thanks for the link I found them.
4 post for me if I get a larger lift, my other German cars have some fill procedures that make me a bit uneasy when working under the car with it running, and 3 tons 7 feet in the air. |
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