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> OEM /6 mount, Mad Dog
930cabman
post Feb 11 2021, 01:39 PM
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Making the conversion to a 6 cyl, we have several choices to make with mounts, exhaust, fuel, oil tank, engine tin, ....

I recently purchased the OEM mount from Mad Dog, you couldn't ask for a better fit. It nestled into the recess and allowed basically no room for error. I socked it in with a couple self tapping screws and went ahead with the plug and fillet welds.
I removed the paint from the mounting surfaces with paint stripper and cleaned it up with a sanding disc prior to welding

From what I understand the factory placed additional reinforcement in this area. Running the welds for this mount I sensed it the way my MIG was acting. I bet you could pick the entire car up from this mount. Very well done Mad Dog Attached Image Attached Image
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post Feb 11 2021, 03:51 PM
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Perfect..
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post Feb 11 2021, 04:37 PM
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What a great fit, I have his other bulkhead mount. Both are top-notch products.
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post Feb 11 2021, 10:18 PM
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I just got mine in the mail. Thanks for the photos.. helpful ...
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post Feb 12 2021, 11:58 AM
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QUOTE(Robarabian @ Feb 11 2021, 11:18 PM) *

I just got mine in the mail. Thanks for the photos.. helpful ...


Mine fit like a glove. I did clean the base steel prior to welding. Good luck, give Dave a thumbs up
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post Feb 14 2021, 03:12 PM
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All the thumbs up go to Mark at Original Customs, he did the design work. I just fabricate them, but thanks all the same!
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post Feb 14 2021, 04:42 PM
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QUOTE(maddog @ Feb 14 2021, 04:12 PM) *

All the thumbs up go to Mark at Original Customs, he did the design work. I just fabricate them, but thanks all the same!


Disagree Dave,

my vote would give half to Mark and half to Mad Dog. Great product/design
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post Feb 14 2021, 10:22 PM
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any chance of seeing a few pics 'as received'..... before install ?
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post Feb 14 2021, 11:00 PM
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QUOTE(rgalla9146 @ Feb 14 2021, 11:22 PM) *

any chance of seeing a few pics 'as received'..... before install ?

Rory - this pic is from the website.


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post Feb 15 2021, 01:26 PM
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QUOTE(mepstein @ Feb 15 2021, 12:00 AM) *

QUOTE(rgalla9146 @ Feb 14 2021, 11:22 PM) *

any chance of seeing a few pics 'as received'..... before install ?

Rory - this pic is from the website.


a visit was made.....thank you Mark
and thank you Madog for producing the most logical mount.
now that the repro rubber part is available IMHO this is the best choice
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post Feb 15 2021, 02:21 PM
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QUOTE(rgalla9146 @ Feb 15 2021, 02:26 PM) *

QUOTE(mepstein @ Feb 15 2021, 12:00 AM) *

QUOTE(rgalla9146 @ Feb 14 2021, 11:22 PM) *

any chance of seeing a few pics 'as received'..... before install ?

Rory - this pic is from the website.


a visit was made.....thank you Mark
and thank you Madog for producing the most logical mount.
now that the repro rubber part is available IMHO this is the best choice


I agree. I purchased this mount for my next car. I just need the two metal plates that support the oem rubber mount.
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post Feb 15 2021, 02:29 PM
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I personally suggest this mount to all my customers. I probably should just inventory them as its almost a daily request.
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post Feb 15 2021, 10:03 PM
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Are these other parts necessery / provided / available ?
Requires a high strength bolt too. ( 10.9 , 112mm shouldred shaft, 12 x 1.5 )


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post Feb 15 2021, 10:10 PM
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post Feb 15 2021, 10:49 PM
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QUOTE(rgalla9146 @ Feb 15 2021, 11:03 PM) *

Are these other parts necessery / provided / available ?
Requires a high strength bolt too. ( 10.9 , 112mm shouldred shaft, 12 x 1.5 )

yes
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post Feb 16 2021, 06:05 AM
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I have welded the Mad Dog chassis portion into my conversion project, but the 2.7 is still at the engine builder. Mad Dog states a Wevo mount is required to complete the installation, about $90.
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post Feb 16 2021, 07:32 AM
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QUOTE(930cabman @ Feb 16 2021, 07:05 AM) *

I have welded the Mad Dog chassis portion into my conversion project, but the 2.7 is still at the engine builder. Mad Dog states a Wevo mount is required to complete the installation, about $90.


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Per previous notes from @mb911

The Wevo mount goes into the 2nd plate with round hole that was supplied with the Maddog mount. Ben seemed happy with the isolation from the Wevo mount.

OEM 914/6 mount eliminates the adapter plate and the wevo mount.

As an automotive engineer that has worked on NVH and highly values low NVH in my own vehicles, I will be using the 914/6 OEM mount for the following reasons

1) Now readily available and only slightly more expensive than the Wevo mount.

2) I don't like the way the Wevo mounts in the secondary adapter made of flat plate. That flat piece of plate steel isn't very stiff in dynamic bending in Z plane relative to the rest of the mount that has lots of form and is directly welded to the chassis. What your really want is a mount structure with at least 10 times more stiffness than the isolator itself. I'm not convinced the steel plate and the Wevo isolator will achieve this goal.

3) The OEM mount has way more rubber for isolation and will have a much lower rate in Z plane than the Wevo mount and will better faciliate meeting the ratio of 10:1 between mount stiffness and isolator stiffness. The result should be much better isolation.

4) Based on the above info, I belive Porsche did their homework and designed the OEM 914/6 mount towards this end. Good isolation in the Z plane without overly compromising X/Y plane that would lead to diminished steering and handling performance.

People have vastly different appreciation for NVH so by no means and I saying the Wevo mount won't mount the engine. I'm sure it will. I also belive it probably does a decent job based on Ben's feedback. However, for reasons above, and my desire for a powertrain mount that is optimized, I belive that is best achieved with the OEM engine mount, and that is what I'll do.
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post Feb 16 2021, 07:55 AM
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QUOTE(sixnotfour @ Feb 15 2021, 11:10 PM) *


It's great to have an engineers confirmation ! Thank you Superhawk996

The skill for fabricating the chassis part and the engine part is obvious.
Are the two plates to complete the set too much to ask ?
Am I foolish for asking ?
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post Feb 16 2021, 08:13 AM
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It's great to have an engineers confirmation ! Thank you Superhawk996

The skill for fabricating the chassis part and the engine part is obvious.
Are the two plates to complete the set too much to ask ?
Am I foolish for asking ?

I think mcmark/maddog used and adaptor with the wevo mount because a couple years ago, the oem mounts were not being made, at least not at reasonable pricing. Now uro and porsche have the mounts available as low as $120. It looks like it would be pretty easy to reproduce the two mount plates and like superhawk, I'd like to use the oem rubber mount.
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QUOTE(rgalla9146 @ Feb 16 2021, 08:55 AM) *

QUOTE(sixnotfour @ Feb 15 2021, 11:10 PM) *


It's great to have an engineers confirmation ! Thank you Superhawk996

The skill for fabricating the chassis part and the engine part is obvious.
Are the two plates to complete the set too much to ask ?
Am I foolish for asking ?

I think mcmark/maddog used and adaptor with the wevo mount because a couple years ago, the oem mounts were not being made, at least not at reasonable pricing. Now uro and porsche have the mounts available as low as $120. It looks like it would be pretty easy to reproduce the two mount plates and like superhawk, I'd like to use the oem rubber mount.



Those plates would be awesome. If I had samples I would have. Bunch made.
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