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| Superhawk996 |
 Feb 17 2021, 09:00 AM
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914 Guru  Group: Members Posts: 5,723 Joined: 25-August 18 From: Woods of N. Idaho Member No.: 22,428 Region Association: Galt's Gulch 
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You can be sure they never planned on 4.0L engines back in the day. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)
When I lived in Italy back in late 80's the gasoline, road taxes, and insurace costs would have been exorbitant to feed a 4.0L! Would imagine Germany would have been similar. |
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| mb911 |
Feb 17 2021, 09:31 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,798 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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The 914-8 has a beefed up version of this style mount. Just sayin
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| mepstein |
Feb 17 2021, 09:38 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,215 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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QUOTE(mb911 @ Feb 17 2021, 10:31 AM)  The 914-8 has a beefed up version of this style mount. Just sayin Don't a lot of the modern Porsche's use a single engine mounting point? I thought there was a thread discussing it. Maybe McMark's original thread on developing the mount. I remember someone saying the Porsche engines don't twist in the mounts like a Chevy V8 and at least a couple people have used them on their 3.2-3.6 conversions for years. RonS have a six chassis with wide flares and a 3.6 and stock Porsche firewall mount. I'm using it on my next 3.2 conversion. Thank you to Maddog for making the stock style mounting plates. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
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| FourBlades |
Feb 18 2021, 10:27 PM
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From Wreck to Rockin Group: Members Posts: 2,054 Joined: 3-December 07 From: Brevard, FL Member No.: 8,414 Region Association: South East States
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Mittelmotor makes the plates.
They are not cheap, but they are nice: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Auflage-oben-fur-M...1MAAOSwOXRd54sD https://www.ebay.com/itm/Auflage-unten-fur-...DQAAOSwvFJd543x Hope these links work. I picked up a set for my IMSA restoration a while back. I bought the large bolt required from AutoAtlanta (inexpensive) after not being able to find the specs for it anywhere, although people have since posted them. John |
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| maddog |
Feb 19 2021, 04:05 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 200 Joined: 19-May 03 From: Grand Rapids Michigan Member No.: 710 Region Association: None
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got the blanks the other day, formed them up, just have to weld them now.
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| mb911 |
Feb 19 2021, 04:10 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,798 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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QUOTE(maddog @ Feb 19 2021, 02:05 PM) got the blanks the other day, formed them up, just have to weld them now. Very cool. Gonna want a set for sure. I may contact you about inventory on these kits. |
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| mepstein |
Feb 19 2021, 04:38 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,215 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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QUOTE(maddog @ Feb 19 2021, 05:05 PM) got the blanks the other day, formed them up, just have to weld them now. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
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| 930cabman |
Feb 19 2021, 05:30 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,996 Joined: 12-November 20 From: Buffalo Member No.: 24,877 Region Association: North East States
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Dave is on the case for sure, keep up the good work/service
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| Superhawk996 |
Feb 19 2021, 07:06 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,723 Joined: 25-August 18 From: Woods of N. Idaho Member No.: 22,428 Region Association: Galt's Gulch
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QUOTE(maddog @ Feb 19 2021, 05:05 PM) got the blanks the other day, formed them up, just have to weld them now. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cheer.gif) |
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| maddog |
Feb 23 2021, 09:26 AM
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so not happy with how the first prototype turned out, I did a couple of changes and just ordered a new set of blanks
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| Superhawk996 |
Feb 27 2021, 11:12 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,723 Joined: 25-August 18 From: Woods of N. Idaho Member No.: 22,428 Region Association: Galt's Gulch
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Update on OEM mount
Got the engine side back from powder coat. Looks great!  Yesterday I received the URO mount p/n 914 375 049 00 Appears to be nicely made. Did a quick trial fit to put URO mount into the body side bracket . . . almost! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)  Not a big deal really, but the body side bracket will need a little clearnace work to properly fit the the radius of the URO isolator can. I want to be really clear - I don't see this as reflecting poorly on the Mad Dog mount or the URO isolator. When you're doing these sorts of conversions with hand made parts, a little finessing is part of the game. Knowing many will likely use the Wevo mount, it wouldn't even be an issue. The isolator holes line up perfectly though! Great job making allowance for use of the OEM style isolator! Likewise, there could be minor difference in the URO isolator can vs. the 914/6 mount isolator that Mad Dog built his orignal prototype to. Again, I'm just very glad URO is reproducing the 914/6 mount that was NLA for quite a while. Mock ups and trial fitting are all part of the game. Just wanted to post my situation and prep others for need to do a little fitting to make it all work. |
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| Superhawk996 |
Feb 27 2021, 11:16 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,723 Joined: 25-August 18 From: Woods of N. Idaho Member No.: 22,428 Region Association: Galt's Gulch
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QUOTE(maddog @ Feb 23 2021, 10:26 AM) so not happy with how the first prototype turned out, I did a couple of changes and just ordered a new set of blanks @maddog Really not so bad for a 1st try. Definately usable. Love that you're seeking perfection! Keep us posted when you get something you're happy with. I call dibs on 1st in line to buy from you! |
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| mepstein |
Feb 27 2021, 11:29 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,215 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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QUOTE(Superhawk996 @ Feb 27 2021, 12:16 PM) QUOTE(maddog @ Feb 23 2021, 10:26 AM) so not happy with how the first prototype turned out, I did a couple of changes and just ordered a new set of blanks @maddog Really not so bad for a 1st try. Definately usable. Love that you're seeking perfection! Keep us posted when you get something you're happy with. I call dibs on 1st in line to buy from you! I'll take a set. And if you could supply the bolt, it would be nice. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) I received the uro rubber mount from quickly from the ebay seller. It looks good. The cheapest I could find the sport version was close to $200 so I'll stick with the normal version for now. |
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| 930cabman |
Feb 27 2021, 01:37 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,996 Joined: 12-November 20 From: Buffalo Member No.: 24,877 Region Association: North East States
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QUOTE(Superhawk996 @ Feb 27 2021, 12:12 PM) Update on OEM mount Got the engine side back from powder coat. Looks great! Yesterday I received the URO mount p/n 914 375 049 00 Appears to be nicely made. Did a quick trial fit to put URO mount into the body side bracket . . . almost! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) Not a big deal really, but the body side bracket will need a little clearnace work to properly fit the the radius of the URO isolator can. I want to be really clear - I don't see this as reflecting poorly on the Mad Dog mount or the URO isolator. When you're doing these sorts of conversions with hand made parts, a little finessing is part of the game. Knowing many will likely use the Wevo mount, it wouldn't even be an issue. The isolator holes line up perfectly though! Great job making allowance for use of the OEM style isolator! Likewise, there could be minor difference in the URO isolator can vs. the 914/6 mount isolator that Mad Dog built his orignal prototype to. Again, I'm just very glad URO is reproducing the 914/6 mount that was NLA for quite a while. Mock ups and trial fitting are all part of the game. Just wanted to post my situation and prep others for need to do a little fitting to make it all work. @Hawk , we are in a similar boat, but I have welded the mount to the chassis "assuming" everything would fit! The URO mount arrived the other day and I am seeing the same interference. The answer: Wevo mount, shim the URO mount, grind a portion of the mount, ... I am hoping for a straightforward solution. Such is the conversion |
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| Superhawk996 |
Feb 27 2021, 01:43 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,723 Joined: 25-August 18 From: Woods of N. Idaho Member No.: 22,428 Region Association: Galt's Gulch
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QUOTE(930cabman @ Feb 27 2021, 02:37 PM) we are in a similar boat, but I have welded the mount to the chassis "assuming" everything would fit! The URO mount arrived the other day and I am seeing the same interference. The answer: Wevo mount, shim the URO mount, grind a portion of the mount, ... I am hoping for a straightforward solution. Such is the conversion @930cabman Let me play with mine today on bench. I'm thinking it's just radiusing the body side bracket a smidge. I'd rather get it all on the bracket so that in the future I can use new mounts without rework. Shimming will raise engine at front, you don't want that. Wevo is a no-brainer but in my case I absolutely want the 914/6 OEM isolation. I'll report back by end of weekend |
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| Superhawk996 |
Feb 27 2021, 03:12 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,723 Joined: 25-August 18 From: Woods of N. Idaho Member No.: 22,428 Region Association: Galt's Gulch
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@930cabman
Oh man, that was beyond simple.  All I had to do was radius the corners a bit, took a smidge off the back side, and leveled a weld bead. 36 grit on a 2" disk and it was done in like 15 minutes.   No modification done to the URO isolator. Fits perfectly now. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) |
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| 930cabman |
Feb 27 2021, 06:48 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,996 Joined: 12-November 20 From: Buffalo Member No.: 24,877 Region Association: North East States
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Hawk, guess I should have tried a test fit prior to welding the chassis portion.
Thanks, I am just about done with the structural work with our project, but still have quite a few different fish we are frying. Floor is coming up, still need to practice overhead plug welding. Great board with a great bunch of guys/gals |
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| Superhawk996 |
Feb 27 2021, 06:54 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,723 Joined: 25-August 18 From: Woods of N. Idaho Member No.: 22,428 Region Association: Galt's Gulch
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QUOTE(930cabman @ Feb 27 2021, 07:48 PM) I should have tried a test fit prior to welding the chassis portion. Floor is coming up, still need to practice overhead plug welding. @930cabman You'll be able to tweak the body side bracket it in the chassis without any issue at all. Probably goes without saying . . . be sure to position your body so that it is not directly under the puddle. Wear a leather welding jacket. Be safe! |
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| maddog |
Feb 28 2021, 07:58 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 200 Joined: 19-May 03 From: Grand Rapids Michigan Member No.: 710 Region Association: None
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Hi guys, Hawk is right about the URO mount interference. I had Luke check his OEM mount fitup and it was the same. Hawk has the best solution for anyone that already has the mount, just get a grinder and put a nice 4-5mm radius on the two edges and the URO mount will drop right in. Dont worry about removing that little bit of material to get the radius because there is a nice fillet weld behind the wall. I did one in my bench vise and it only took minutes like Hawk said.
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| sixnotfour |
Feb 28 2021, 01:22 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,405 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains 
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