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pfreiburger
post Mar 27 2021, 05:15 AM
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I am now quite certain that the factory did install some black door handles. I came to this determination in a roundabout (and expensive) way, starting when my inner hammer mechanic escaped and broke the driver door handle.

As no black ones exist, I picked up a new chrome (Sierra Madre) handle and was surprised to find that my old lock cylinder (after removing the black paint) would not fit the chrome handle. The length was fine, but it fit so tight it could not be turned. At all. Measuring the ID of the handle bores confirmed that the black handle was larger, even with paint on it. The used chrome-handle lock cylinder I bought on line later fit and turned in the new chrome handle just fine. And that used chrome handle cylinder definitely had more clearance when inserted in the old black handle. Measuring the cap ends of the lock cylinder confirmed it – the cylinder from the black handle was larger in diameter.

Dissimilar sized handle components are almost certainly no customizer job, and damn sure no hot rod job. The only conclusion I can draw is that Porsche had a supplier make a run of black handles, and for whatever reason some components were made a little different. This fits with what I found when I scraped some black paint from the broken handle: no evidence of chrome ever being applied to the casting. Lastly, there are factory pictures (albeit poor ones) of black A pillar cars that look like they have black handles also.

Am I missing another explanation?
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post Apr 5 2021, 05:17 PM
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i found this image in my file of stuff i collected over the years.
can't remember source, too long ago.
never bothered to look at it closely before.
assumed it was another shot of red 4 above.

took a second look and thought again - a shot of piech 8 in first form? - a very early prototype test car.

looked again, its not piech 8 unless it was heavily modded again after this.
running 4 bolt vw wheels and has flattened front wheel arches.
but it does seem to have wide twin headlight pop up panels.
bumper has no grilles.



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post Apr 6 2021, 10:17 AM
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QUOTE(wonkipop @ Apr 5 2021, 04:17 PM) *

i found this image in my file of stuff i collected over the years.
can't remember source, too long ago.
never bothered to look at it closely before.
assumed it was another shot of red 4 above.

took a second look and thought again - a shot of piech 8 in first form? - a very early prototype test car.

looked again, its not piech 8 unless it was heavily modded again after this.
running 4 bolt vw wheels and has flattened front wheel arches.
but it does seem to have wide twin headlight pop up panels.
bumper has no grilles.



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Yes, that is 914.111 before it got the 908 treatment.
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post Apr 6 2021, 10:09 PM
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Apr 6 2021, 10:17 AM) *

QUOTE(wonkipop @ Apr 5 2021, 04:17 PM) *

i found this image in my file of stuff i collected over the years.
can't remember source, too long ago.
never bothered to look at it closely before.
assumed it was another shot of red 4 above.

took a second look and thought again - a shot of piech 8 in first form? - a very early prototype test car.

looked again, its not piech 8 unless it was heavily modded again after this.
running 4 bolt vw wheels and has flattened front wheel arches.
but it does seem to have wide twin headlight pop up panels.
bumper has no grilles.



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Yes, that is 914.111 before it got the 908 treatment.
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found this story sir andy, you probably already read it.
mechanic who built 914.111 is still alive.

says he also built (handbuilt?) the first two 914/4 prototypes.

https://www.porscheclubnews.com/prod/clubs/...4_914clausecker
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post Apr 8 2021, 07:46 AM
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QUOTE(wonkipop @ Apr 6 2021, 09:09 PM) *

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Apr 6 2021, 10:17 AM) *

QUOTE(wonkipop @ Apr 5 2021, 04:17 PM) *

i found this image in my file of stuff i collected over the years.
can't remember source, too long ago.
never bothered to look at it closely before.
assumed it was another shot of red 4 above.

took a second look and thought again - a shot of piech 8 in first form? - a very early prototype test car.

looked again, its not piech 8 unless it was heavily modded again after this.
running 4 bolt vw wheels and has flattened front wheel arches.
but it does seem to have wide twin headlight pop up panels.
bumper has no grilles.



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Yes, that is 914.111 before it got the 908 treatment.
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif)


found this story sir andy, you probably already read it.
mechanic who built 914.111 is still alive.

says he also built (handbuilt?) the first two 914/4 prototypes.

https://www.porscheclubnews.com/prod/clubs/...4_914clausecker

That is a great article! Thanks for posting. You should cross post it over in the Garage as I think a lot of people would like to see it. Funny that they apparently found installing the pedal board as annoying as I do. Interesting modifications on the one shown in the article.
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post Apr 8 2021, 04:18 PM
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QUOTE(bbrock @ Apr 8 2021, 07:46 AM) *

QUOTE(wonkipop @ Apr 6 2021, 09:09 PM) *

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Apr 6 2021, 10:17 AM) *

QUOTE(wonkipop @ Apr 5 2021, 04:17 PM) *

i found this image in my file of stuff i collected over the years.
can't remember source, too long ago.
never bothered to look at it closely before.
assumed it was another shot of red 4 above.

took a second look and thought again - a shot of piech 8 in first form? - a very early prototype test car.

looked again, its not piech 8 unless it was heavily modded again after this.
running 4 bolt vw wheels and has flattened front wheel arches.
but it does seem to have wide twin headlight pop up panels.
bumper has no grilles.



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Yes, that is 914.111 before it got the 908 treatment.
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif)


found this story sir andy, you probably already read it.
mechanic who built 914.111 is still alive.

says he also built (handbuilt?) the first two 914/4 prototypes.

https://www.porscheclubnews.com/prod/clubs/...4_914clausecker

That is a great article! Thanks for posting. You should cross post it over in the Garage as I think a lot of people would like to see it. Funny that they apparently found installing the pedal board as annoying as I do. Interesting modifications on the one shown in the article.


no worries.

noticed the hacked up pedal board too. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) something to do with hydraulic clutch? this car must have one? or humungous fuel lines coming into tunnel? i could finally understand the shift mechanism - pretty crazy. a cross bar in front of the passenger seat covered by a hump of carpet. looks like the shift lever is about 4=6 inches south of where it is in a normal 914. could never figure that out before because i knew that all 908s and 917s were rhd with shifter on the right.

i noticed 924 style headlight mechanism. one motor and an an axle to the other unit. done more expensive way on standard 914s with two motors.

we have never had the good fortune to have had this car brought to australia by the company, unlike lucky americans. its just photos and articles for me.

the company does bring out interesting cars from its collection for celebrations, but never 914s, i suppose because they were never officially sold here. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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pfreiburger   OEM Black Door Handles   Mar 27 2021, 05:15 AM
Tom_T   No factory black door handles. All were chrome. ...   Mar 27 2021, 12:32 PM
SirAndy   No factory black door handles. This car is suppos...   Mar 29 2021, 08:27 PM
mepstein   Your argument doesn't make sense. The black ha...   Mar 27 2021, 01:15 PM
mepstein   Factory with early painted bumpers and early rear ...   Mar 29 2021, 08:40 PM
JeffBowlsby   That is purportedly 4702900001. Its an oddity as ...   Mar 30 2021, 10:35 AM
wonkipop   That is purportedly 4702900001. Its an oddity as...   Mar 30 2021, 07:03 PM
wonkipop   strangely porsche appear to hold an unmolested 74 ...   Mar 30 2021, 07:20 PM
bbrock   strangely porsche appear to hold an unmolested 74...   Apr 2 2021, 12:55 PM
wonkipop   strangely porsche appear to hold an unmolested 7...   Apr 5 2021, 05:23 PM
wonkipop   the red VW museum car seems to maybe be in a fluid...   Mar 30 2021, 08:03 PM
PCH   Interesting that the VW factory museum 914 carries...   Sep 10 2022, 03:26 PM
wonkipop   Interesting that the VW factory museum 914 carrie...   Sep 10 2022, 06:01 PM
cholland_   if the photos are to be trusted, its been chrome...   Nov 30 2022, 02:22 PM
wonkipop   the red (said to be #1 car) reminds me of the hold...   Mar 31 2021, 02:21 AM
JeffBowlsby   These changes over time could have just been desig...   Mar 31 2021, 08:42 AM
wonkipop   a good explanation mr bowlsby. the red car belong...   Mar 31 2021, 05:07 PM
SirAndy   windscreen cowl panels don't seem to have plas...   Apr 6 2021, 10:19 AM
wonkipop   last emden beetle. end of german production 1978. ...   Mar 31 2021, 05:57 PM
wonkipop   slightly off the side of the topic. found info pla...   Mar 31 2021, 07:29 PM
wonkipop   i found this image in my file of stuff i collected...   Apr 5 2021, 05:17 PM
SirAndy   i found this image in my file of stuff i collecte...   Apr 6 2021, 10:17 AM
wonkipop   [quote name='wonkipop' post='2905738' date='Apr 5...   Apr 6 2021, 10:09 PM
bbrock   [quote name='wonkipop' post='2905738' date='Apr ...   Apr 8 2021, 07:46 AM
wonkipop   [quote name='wonkipop' post='2906154' date='Apr 6...   Apr 8 2021, 04:18 PM
wonkipop   anyone ever noticed something about this photo bef...   Apr 8 2021, 05:51 PM
SirAndy   anyone ever noticed something about this photo be...   Apr 9 2021, 09:14 AM
davep   in the background are 914s on stands. 914 product...   Apr 10 2021, 08:02 PM
mepstein   in the background are 914s on stands. 914 produc...   Apr 10 2021, 08:25 PM
wonkipop   [quote name='davep' post='2907135' date='Apr 10 2...   Apr 11 2021, 06:34 PM
bbrock   its good the early history of the design of the c...   Apr 12 2021, 06:36 PM
wonkipop   its good the early history of the design of the ...   Apr 13 2021, 09:54 PM
RolinkHaus   More pics, love VW/Porsche history :popcorn:   Apr 14 2021, 04:04 AM
RolinkHaus   Great post. My father's childhood home is 25 ...   Apr 13 2021, 04:15 AM
wonkipop   nothing more to tell mate. vw and porsche have all...   Apr 14 2021, 05:33 AM
wonkipop   here is the thing i was trying to find. a document...   Apr 15 2021, 01:52 AM
wonkipop   so much for crushing prototype cars and burning ev...   Apr 22 2021, 03:52 AM
wonkipop   one example (min) of piech's suitcase package ...   Apr 23 2021, 05:25 PM
wonkipop   definitely more than one prototype EA266 survives....   May 6 2021, 08:26 PM
wonkipop   additionally it appears the very first 1967 lash u...   May 6 2021, 08:34 PM
wonkipop   the cars were defintely styled completely inside p...   May 6 2021, 08:35 PM
wonkipop   i found one three quarter view study for the roads...   May 6 2021, 08:43 PM
wonkipop   much of the written material that has surfaced on ...   May 6 2021, 08:54 PM
wonkipop   the 67 prototype car ran a space saver spare under...   May 6 2021, 09:16 PM


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