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> A creamsicle chassis, A diamond in the rough
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post Apr 2 2021, 10:13 AM
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QUOTE(Mark Henry @ Apr 2 2021, 09:03 AM) *
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The floor bolts are really strange.
original floors and panels that has been reinforced.
"reinforced"?

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post Apr 2 2021, 10:21 AM
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The car won't be complete this summer. Once Mark is done my bank account will need several months to recharge. I may consider having body, paint, and wheels done over the winter. It needs mechanical repairs complete before starting on cosmetics.

My goal is to drive from Nova Scotia to California (and home again!) in 2023 for Porsche75th anniversary. I expect there will be some sort of commemoration happening. It will be a retirement trip - no schedule or rush to get home.
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post Apr 2 2021, 10:31 AM
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QUOTE(914werke @ Apr 2 2021, 09:13 AM) *

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The floor bolts are really strange.
original floors and panels that has been reinforced.
"reinforced"?



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When you figure out what all the bolts are for, let us know. If you can, more pics. Very interesting!
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post Apr 2 2021, 10:36 AM
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They had me totally fooled, I thought "oh no...not a bondo bucket", then it was like what the hell? Did he bolt on new factory panels???
I think it's all pristine, original floors and panels that has been reinforced .


Tim bought the car and took it to Vancouver in 1980. Why he would strip and rebuild a 5 year old car remains a mystery. He sent photos of the car totally gutted and sitting on its side. Given his position at the aircraft shop, could there be rivets in the floor instead of bolts?

Appraisal from 1987 shows Bilstein shocks front and rear.

It came with a very low air dam up front. That came off and is sitting in my shed. I have a factory air conditioning system and raised letter Porsche outer rocker panels. Neither is likely to be installed.
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post Apr 2 2021, 10:39 AM
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The verdict is in on Warren's engine troubles, as expected because as soon as the car hauler guy tried to start the car I was yelling at him to shut it off.

The dreaded dropped valve seat, #3 intake this time.
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post Apr 2 2021, 10:58 AM
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Things are not torqued proper, if it didn't lose a valve seat first it would have lost the flywheel eventually. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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post Apr 2 2021, 11:09 AM
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The dreaded dropped valve seat, #3 intake this time.


Got a photo of what that looks like?

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post Apr 2 2021, 11:33 AM
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Yes but later I'm to greasy to be touching anything.
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post Apr 2 2021, 11:55 AM
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Thanks for sharing!

I truly hope "we" go back to silver on this one.

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post Apr 2 2021, 12:46 PM
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QUOTE(MM1 @ Apr 2 2021, 01:55 PM) *

Thanks for sharing!

I truly hope "we" go back to silver on this one.

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The original color (whatever that may be) is always the best color.
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post Apr 2 2021, 01:26 PM
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QUOTE(BENBRO02 @ Apr 2 2021, 12:46 PM) *

QUOTE(MM1 @ Apr 2 2021, 01:55 PM) *

Thanks for sharing!

I truly hope "we" go back to silver on this one.

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The original color (whatever that may be) is always the best color.


+1, I am always in favor of original colors. Great looking project, when was the last time she was on the road? Keep us posted with the updates
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post Apr 2 2021, 02:31 PM
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QUOTE(930cabman @ Apr 2 2021, 01:26 PM) *

QUOTE(BENBRO02 @ Apr 2 2021, 12:46 PM) *

QUOTE(MM1 @ Apr 2 2021, 01:55 PM) *

Thanks for sharing!

I truly hope "we" go back to silver on this one.

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The original color (whatever that may be) is always the best color.


+1, I am always in favor of original colors. Great looking project, when was the last time she was on the road? Keep us posted with the updates



I'm in full agreement and ideally the car would be returned to the original color. It would have to be fully dismantled to do it properly. It is far too extensive a job that I'm not willing to pay for. The car will never be concourse and only those who know how to read the paint code number will know the difference. I really hate having a car with exterior color different than inside. It would be hideous with silver outside and red inside. Maybe my kids will change the color when it's not mine any more. Set up a GoFundMe benefit and I'll reconsider. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I bought the car in July 2001. Got married, hopped on a plane and flew to Vancouver. The drive home to Nova Scotia in the 914 was our honeymoon. I had a blast! We took the car across the border and bought an air conditioning system from Josh near Olympia Washington. Then off to Port Angeles and ferry to Victoria for the night. Along the ride towards Whistler the engine started acting up. It was getting less than 10 miles per gallon and belching smoke out the back. The entire back of the car was covered in black soot. Remnants can still be seen inside the rear trunk lid. It arrived home about 6000km / 3600 miles later. I installed a Crane XR100, replaced the MPS, and cleaned the injector triggers. It worked much better but still far from correct. The car was last really used about fall 2008. Went through separation and divorce in 2011. I told her she could have everything she wanted in the house but I wanted the 914 and all contents in the garage. Priorities were in the right place. The car moved with me in October. It was on the road occasionally to wake up, but not insured or registered. Last Spring I started to get it ready for engine overhaul and was planning to visit Brad in Peoria. Five new tires, Optima yellow battery, and a large box of brake parts were ordered. Covid changed plans and the car sat for the summer. Brakes were replaced in the fall. I wasn't aware of Mark being able to assist until a short time ago. Less than two weeks ago on I decided to get the car registered with hopes of driving it to Ontario. Covid restrictions are in place and a 2-week quarantine would be required upon return. As a result I decided to have it shipped instead. That may have been a good decision with a failing engine. 23 March I got it insured and inspected before getting a new license plate installed. It drove for only a few days. The engine was clearly not well. 25 March it went to a detailer to get over a decade of dust and grime removed. Mark seemed to be puzzled by the car and initially considered it a POS. Having it filthy would have only added to his disgust. It was driven to the shipping company on Sunday 28 March. The trailer left on Monday and it arrived at Mark's door Tuesday.

I get to fund Mark's writing of the next chapter. I have high expectations.

This is my second 914. The first was bought in 1998. I wanted to attend the Porsche 50th anniversary rally that summer, but couldn't make it work. I decided that I would do the next one in 25 years. Time is getting short. Next up is dent removal, fresh red paint, wheel refurbishing, new windshield, install valences, and a bunch of trim parts. That part should complete restoration next winter or Summer 2022.

I'm planning to retire by 31 December 2022. The car needs to be ready for its California road trip summer 2023.
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post Apr 3 2021, 01:42 AM
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i reckon that car is pretty ace.
been worked over by aircraft engineers.
no scuttle shake in that baby?
real focus on the suspension and chassis.

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post Apr 3 2021, 02:43 AM
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QUOTE(Warren914 @ Apr 2 2021, 04:31 PM) *
I'm planning to retire by 31 December 2022. The car needs to be ready for its California road trip summer 2023.

THIS RIGHT HERE. You're doing it right! A lot of us aspire to do the same. Cant wait to watch this project unfold.
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post Apr 3 2021, 06:56 AM
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What percentage of our +/- 50 years old 914's have a clean hell hole as this one?

Less than 5% I would bet
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post Apr 3 2021, 08:10 AM
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Dropped engine and the unfortunate dropped valve seat.

You would have never made it Warren...and you would have totally hand granaded the engine trying.


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The Horror.. clack clack
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post Apr 3 2021, 11:05 AM
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The Horror.. clack clack



It was running! Sounded like a really bad exhaust leak.
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The Horror.. clack clack



It was running! Sounded like a really bad exhaust leak.


How much power could it make?
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QUOTE(Warren914 @ Apr 3 2021, 01:05 PM) *

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The Horror.. clack clack



It was running! Sounded like a really bad exhaust leak.


That was because the other side head was a smog head, the air pump is long gone and exhaust ports are plugged, but one of those plugs fell out.

The seat one could keep driving, it would never idle and when it finally failed the broken valve would likely pop a rod out the top of the case.
I've seen this trick done before.
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