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> Porsche Driver gets a 160 mph ticket, Not a 914
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post Apr 5 2021, 09:08 PM
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QUOTE(Cairo94507 @ Apr 5 2021, 12:32 PM) *

Good point Clay. My beef is not with the car- it's the asshat driver. Court ordered sale and funds to be sent to educate teenaged drivers.


I like that!

Asshats should be punished. If he wants to do that, he needs to go to the track.


To make sure everyone feels the same pain, fines should be based on income, like they do in Norway.
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post Apr 5 2021, 09:31 PM
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In the late 60's-70's the Western States ( NM, CO, SD, WY) had unrestricted speed limits. As long as you did not get too stupid and there was not any traffic you could haul ass all day long at a 100 with out any problem.


Montana too :::
Reasonable and prudent
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post Apr 5 2021, 10:37 PM
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post Apr 5 2021, 11:16 PM
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QUOTE(cary @ Apr 5 2021, 07:31 PM) *

QUOTE(914Sixer @ Apr 5 2021, 10:15 AM) *

In the late 60's-70's the Western States ( NM, CO, SD, WY) had unrestricted speed limits. As long as you did not get too stupid and there was not any traffic you could haul ass all day long at a 100 with out any problem.


Montana too :::
Reasonable and prudent

Got my first CO license in 1962. Don't remember a time without a speed limit here.
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post Apr 6 2021, 01:34 AM
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...come to Germany where the Autobahn is... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Actually we have some unrestricted stretches left on our Autobahn´s, but traffic usually is to heavy and with all those electronic helpers in nowadays vehicles the number of stupid drivers is increasing rapidly. Smartphone related accidents have outnumbered drunk driving accidents here. Mostly head on crashes, wrong lane - oops.

The "Green Party" (I´d rather call them socialists (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif) ) is pushing hard on a general speed limit and chances are quite high they finally get through with it after the next elections in September. This is one of their main emphasis besides "saving the climate". Our car industry has suffered some hard blows recently with the (forced) switch to "electric" and the "diesel gate". Still - our Autobahns are by far the safest roads and I - and many others - hope they dont get the speed limit through.

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post Apr 6 2021, 02:14 AM
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QUOTE(Arno914 @ Apr 6 2021, 01:34 AM) *

...come to Germany where the Autobahn is... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Actually we have some unrestricted stretches left on our Autobahn´s, but traffic usually is to heavy and with all those electronic helpers in nowadays vehicles the number of stupid drivers is increasing rapidly. Smartphone related accidents have outnumbered drunk driving accidents here. Mostly head on crashes, wrong lane - oops.

The "Green Party" (I´d rather call them socialists (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif) ) is pushing hard on a general speed limit and chances are quite high they finally get through with it after the next elections in September. This is one of their main emphasis besides "saving the climate". Our car industry has suffered some hard blows recently with the (forced) switch to "electric" and the "diesel gate". Still - our Autobahns are by far the safest roads and I - and many others - hope they dont get the speed limit through.

Greets, Arno


you are describing australia.
except for the bit about unrestricted stretches of autobahn. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Apr 6 2021, 03:11 AM
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Hi wonkipop,

I remember driving in Australia back in 2007. I visited a friend of mine who lived in Melbourne back then for a years work assingnment. He came to pick me up at the airport - in Sydney! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
We drove to his home in Melbourne and I remember those endless stretches of lonely, straight outback roads. We pushed it down to the metal... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)
Maybe we were just lucky back then not to end up beeing nailed be the police.

Anyways, great country, loved it!
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post Apr 6 2021, 03:54 AM
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QUOTE(Arno914 @ Apr 6 2021, 03:11 AM) *

Hi wonkipop,

I remember driving in Australia back in 2007. I visited a friend of mine who lived in Melbourne back then for a years work assingnment. He came to pick me up at the airport - in Sydney! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
We drove to his home in Melbourne and I remember those endless stretches of lonely, straight outback roads. We pushed it down to the metal... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)
Maybe we were just lucky back then not to end up beeing nailed be the police.

Anyways, great country, loved it!


no worries arno.

its all gone downhill since then.

those roads you were on though are not outback roads.
but probably seemed like that to you.
you would have been either on the main interstate (hume highway) or the coast road (pacific highway). or not far off (but maybe your mate knew a few good backroads running in parallel). but still what we call civilisation.

around that time i was doing a job up in albury, repeated trips up the hume from melb.
the cops wouldn't bother unless you were out past 130kph. and if you were polite about it when you got pulled in, there was a warning and on your way. not now.
i remember on one of those trips in summer i decided to come back over the alps. while i was up high coming down into omeo i forgot where i was. i probably had the renault 172 out past 160ks. great road. came around a big sweeping bend and the cop was there standing on the side of the road waving both hands in a downward motion. so i slowed down. that was it. today he'd have me in the back of the divvy van.

there are still some roads you can try out on responsibly.
but not right now.
covid isolation of the country from the rest of the world has every tom dick and harry out there on the roads driving like kooks. thousands of them. all on their phones in front of swaying caravans.
but its better than chinese tourists. (not a racist). apparently they get their license in a simulator. you know when you come across one because their car is stopped on the highway while they get out and look. they don't even pull off the road!!
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post Apr 6 2021, 06:22 AM
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I get it, and yes it is against the law.

Stupid - no license
Stupid - if it is real reckless operation, but that gets slapped onto all sorts of items and is very subjective.

Here is my gripe.

Enforce the correct laws and things get a lot better. Yes even Germany has their share of accidents, and they do have speed limits, but they also have stretches with no speed limits. And this is what I found over there, keep right except to pass, and everyone is respectful. Why they enforce the keep right law, it helps so much.

You can have a Merc van towing a car under a cover, looks an awful lot like a Porsche. going a whole 65 MPH in the far right lane, and getting passed by a Merc in the middle lane doing 150 MPH, while being passed by a McLaren, a GT2RS and a Panamera Turbo going somewhere north of 175 MPH. Was hoping to see a Ranger Rover with a Camera or two. But sadly no. Everyone was happy, everyone was safe, everyone understood the rules of the road. It was driving Nirvana on a public highway, Run I made on a Holiday weekend from Stuttgart to Munich. I was the guy in the S class Merc. Would have preferred to be in the McLaren, but love the one your with. Latter saw the Truck and Porsche on the road just on the other side of my bench while enjoying a (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer3.gif) and some local food. 911 GTish thing with a bunch of sensors and camera camo, to keep the pictures in the press.

Enforce the correct laws and this will allow everyone to enjoy the drive. Drive responsibly and respectfully.

BTW, this morning on the way into work, I was passed on the left by a Mercury Barge doing 80 on a two lane, through the intersection with oncoming traffic. That incident put at least 10 people lives at risk, I did not do a head count just the car count involved. That was truly breaking several laws.

Passing in a non passing zone!
Reckless operation or at least incredulous operation, not a law, but good enough for me.
Speeding 80 in a 45
None signal usage

I am sure I could find a few more if I was not assessing the situation and the options I had tactically.

When I read the title I thought it was a factory test driver. I was hoping for a late career change opportunity. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Apr 6 2021, 06:42 AM
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Only one kind of person drives with out a license and like that ! A Criminal that cares only for them selves.... Common sense says illegal immigrant, not American, but then again....I am wrong more often then right. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/flag.gif)
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post Apr 6 2021, 08:03 AM
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post Apr 6 2021, 08:06 AM
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QUOTE(wonkipop @ Apr 5 2021, 05:56 PM) *

i have to memorize all the mph conversions to kph now when i drive so i don't risk a ticket in our zero tolerance environment. the cops are theoretically allowed no discretion in measured speed, ie 1 kph over is a ticket. in practice they tell me they apply 5 still.


I would suggest getting on Ebay and finding a Euro speedometer from a 914 or an early 70s 911. They were in KPH and are a bolt in for your car. I had one from a grey market 914 that I parted out. It was great fun to freak out people here in the US. Just put it in the car and watch their eyes bug out when it reads over 100... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)

I sold it to a 914 owner in Canada years ago.

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post Apr 6 2021, 05:43 PM
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QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Apr 6 2021, 08:06 AM) *

QUOTE(wonkipop @ Apr 5 2021, 05:56 PM) *

i have to memorize all the mph conversions to kph now when i drive so i don't risk a ticket in our zero tolerance environment. the cops are theoretically allowed no discretion in measured speed, ie 1 kph over is a ticket. in practice they tell me they apply 5 still.


I would suggest getting on Ebay and finding a Euro speedometer from a 914 or an early 70s 911. They were in KPH and are a bolt in for your car. I had one from a grey market 914 that I parted out. It was great fun to freak out people here in the US. Just put it in the car and watch their eyes bug out when it reads over 100... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)

I sold it to a 914 owner in Canada years ago.

Clay


thats pretty funny.

yeah if i do that i can freeze my low mileage in a box and put ghost kilometers on the odo too. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)


i get to do the inverse at the moment. my friend with me on the last country drive leaned across and said are we really only doing 70?
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post Apr 6 2021, 05:45 PM
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QUOTE(wonkipop @ Apr 6 2021, 07:43 PM) *

QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Apr 6 2021, 08:06 AM) *

QUOTE(wonkipop @ Apr 5 2021, 05:56 PM) *

i have to memorize all the mph conversions to kph now when i drive so i don't risk a ticket in our zero tolerance environment. the cops are theoretically allowed no discretion in measured speed, ie 1 kph over is a ticket. in practice they tell me they apply 5 still.


I would suggest getting on Ebay and finding a Euro speedometer from a 914 or an early 70s 911. They were in KPH and are a bolt in for your car. I had one from a grey market 914 that I parted out. It was great fun to freak out people here in the US. Just put it in the car and watch their eyes bug out when it reads over 100... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)

I sold it to a 914 owner in Canada years ago.

Clay


thats pretty funny.

yeah if i do that i can freeze my low mileage in a box and put ghost kilometers on the odo too. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)


They are out there!




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post Apr 6 2021, 05:47 PM
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How does it go, you can't fix stupid or something like that
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post Apr 6 2021, 05:55 PM
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It wasn't me. My "73 1.7 tops out at 103. And at 103, it still handles as beautifully as can be. I'm a poet & I hope I don't blow it.
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post Apr 6 2021, 06:11 PM
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Enforce the correct laws and things get a lot better. Yes even Germany has their share of accidents, and they do have speed limits, but they also have stretches with no speed limits. And this is what I found over there, keep right except to pass, and everyone is respectful. Why they enforce the keep right law, it helps so much.





thats a big one in aus (or perhaps it is just the state i live in) now. it once was a law to keep in the left lane unless overtaking. same as your keep in right lane.

at the same time the state govt.decided to raise revenue by introducing zero tolerance measure for speeding, they quietly withdrew the hard and fast law on staying left. its turned our freeways and interstates into arteries with clots. cars seem to bunch up in groups of 5-10 travelling too tightly together at 110kph all on cruise control across all lanes (or two on the interstates). it gets hairy when a double B road train is part of the mix.

i noticed on my last trip two weeks ago the cops were cruising up and down the interstate breaking up the clots. a highway patrol bmw right up the backside of right hand lane loiterers seems to produce a reaction involving moving left that no other car can.

as arno notes it was once an enjoyable experience on an aussie interstate just covering miles, now its..........like everywhere else?
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Why don't you sell it to wonkipop so he can stay out of jail???

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Why don't you sell it to wonkipop so he can stay out of jail???

Clay


oh oh - google searches on cost of aus speeding ticket.
over a barrel now.
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To make sure everyone feels the same pain, fines should be based on income, like they do in Norway.


Extra punishment just because someone is successful. What a brilliant idea. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/screwy.gif)
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