Porsche Driver gets a 160 mph ticket, Not a 914 Options

[Superhawk996]

[stownsen914]

The driver sounds like a real genius at work ...

On a related point, up until the 1990s I think it was Montana where the speed limit was "reasonable and prudent" or something to that effect.

[worn]

To make sure everyone feels the same pain, fines should be based on income, like they do in Norway.

Extra punishment just because someone is successful. What a brilliant idea. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/screwy.gif)

Yeah. OK. But say you are born without intellect, drive or talent. You get to feel just as much pain as the next guy though. Man, I count my blessings every hour. And that ain’t enough. I have two 914s! And my wife will ride in them. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)

[ConeDodger]

About 5 years ago in Reno during this time of the year with everything blooming and pollen so thick you had to wash your car daily, I was driving my truck with the cruise control set for 50 (the speed limit) and I had a sneezing fit. I guess I must have been jerking the wheel with each sneeze and I was immediately pulled over. The cop (RPD) asked for the usual license and registration and asked if I had been drinking. I made the true comment that I had a beer last March and he turned and walked away. I sat there patiently until I sensed him tap the taillight as cops will do and looked back to see him holding his gun in his right hand. HOLY SHIT I thought, and turned in my seat to face him. I said 'What the hell are you doing with your gun drawn.' He says 'you didn't tell me about your concealed carry permit, are you armed?' I said that 'my gun was in the case, locked, in the backseat.' First of all, Nevada is an open carry state. Second, if I was armed I am not required to inform him, it is a courtesy and as he hadn't been particularly courteous to me, well... He wrote me a ticket and I called the police station and they sent out a Sargent who must have been close as he was there in a minute. The ticket was for Reckless Driving as I swerved. I filed a complaint and the ticket was reduced to a seatbelt violation with no fine and as he was ordered not to show up in court, even that was dropped.
But 160? Public highway? You go to jail.

[pcdarks]

About 5 years ago in Reno during this time of the year with everything blooming and pollen so thick you had to wash your car daily, I was driving my truck with the cruise control set for 50 (the speed limit) and I had a sneezing fit. I guess I must have been jerking the wheel with each sneeze and I was immediately pulled over. The cop (RPD) asked for the usual license and registration and asked if I had been drinking. I made the true comment that I had a beer last March and he turned and walked away. I sat there patiently until I sensed him tap the taillight as cops will do and looked back to see him holding his gun in his right hand. HOLY SHIT I thought, and turned in my seat to face him. I said 'What the hell are you doing with your gun drawn.' He says 'you didn't tell me about your concealed carry permit, are you armed?' I said that 'my gun was in the case, locked, in the backseat.' First of all, Nevada is an open carry state. Second, if I was armed I am not required to inform him, it is a courtesy and as he hadn't been particularly courteous to me, well... He wrote me a ticket and I called the police station and they sent out a Sargent who must have been close as he was there in a minute. The ticket was for Reckless Driving as I swerved. I filed a complaint and the ticket was reduced to a seatbelt violation with no fine and as he was ordered not to show up in court, even that was dropped.
But 160? Public highway? You go to jail.

Always a good idea to keep both hands on the wheel and inform the officer immediately that you have a CC permit. That's what I do and they appreciate it. I've never had a problem. Even when they pulled me over for doing 140 in a 65. BTW I got off.

[Blue6]

Wow, that’s interesting. Who could order the officer not to show up to a court case? Sounds like he could be held in contempt. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

[Cairo94507]

I have never heard of an officer being "ordered" not to show up to court on a citation. That would be illegal.... just saying.

[ClayPerrine]

About 5 years ago in Reno during this time of the year with everything blooming and pollen so thick you had to wash your car daily, I was driving my truck with the cruise control set for 50 (the speed limit) and I had a sneezing fit. I guess I must have been jerking the wheel with each sneeze and I was immediately pulled over. The cop (RPD) asked for the usual license and registration and asked if I had been drinking. I made the true comment that I had a beer last March and he turned and walked away. I sat there patiently until I sensed him tap the taillight as cops will do and looked back to see him holding his gun in his right hand. HOLY SHIT I thought, and turned in my seat to face him. I said 'What the hell are you doing with your gun drawn.' He says 'you didn't tell me about your concealed carry permit, are you armed?' I said that 'my gun was in the case, locked, in the backseat.' First of all, Nevada is an open carry state. Second, if I was armed I am not required to inform him, it is a courtesy and as he hadn't been particularly courteous to me, well... He wrote me a ticket and I called the police station and they sent out a Sargent who must have been close as he was there in a minute. The ticket was for Reckless Driving as I swerved. I filed a complaint and the ticket was reduced to a seatbelt violation with no fine and as he was ordered not to show up in court, even that was dropped.
But 160? Public highway? You go to jail.

Always a good idea to keep both hands on the wheel and inform the officer immediately that you have a CC permit. That's what I do and they appreciate it. I've never had a problem. Even when they pulled me over for doing 140 in a 65. BTW I got off.

I got out of a ticket in a similar situation. Years ago, I was on my way home from the range, I got stopped for speeding. This was pre-concealed carry, and cops were really sensitive about firearms in the car. My pistol was sitting on the passenger seat with the slide locked open and no magazine in it. When he walked up to the car, I had both windows down, and I was sitting dead still with my hands on my head, fingers interlocked. When he asked for my license and insurance papers, I explained to him that I was coming home from the gun range, and my pistol was on the passenger seat. I then said that we would both be more comfortable if he held onto it while we talked. He walked behind the car to the passenger side, looked into the window, picked up the pistol and hooked it in his belt. He then walked back to my side of the car, and I gave him my license and insurance info.

He ran my info, and we talked for a few minutes. He wanted to compare my S&W 659 with his Browning High Power. I offered to meet him at the range if he wanted to try it.

He let me go with a warning. And he thanked me for being so overly careful about the pistol on the seat.

It is good to be nice to cops. They have an incredibly tough job. Normal people don't need to make it any harder.

Clay

[Cairo94507]

Handled perfectly Clay. I always say there is no need to kiss the cops butt, just be polite, respectful and honest. Something a relatively small percentage of our society will never understand or get.

[930cabman]

Handled perfectly Clay. I always say there is no need to kiss the cops butt, just be polite, respectful and honest. Something a relatively small percentage of our society will never understand or get.

+1, a land without law and order is chaos, I am not interested in living there. Very basic to simply respect an officer of the law, over 95% of cops are great guys just trying to protect us

[veltror]

...come to Germany where the Autobahn is... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Actually we have some unrestricted stretches left on our Autobahn´s, but traffic usually is to heavy and with all those electronic helpers in nowadays vehicles the number of stupid drivers is increasing rapidly. Smartphone related accidents have outnumbered drunk driving accidents here. Mostly head on crashes, wrong lane - oops.

The "Green Party" (I´d rather call them socialists (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif) ) is pushing hard on a general speed limit and chances are quite high they finally get through with it after the next elections in September. This is one of their main emphasis besides "saving the climate". Our car industry has suffered some hard blows recently with the (forced) switch to "electric" and the "diesel gate". Still - our Autobahns are by far the safest roads and I - and many others - hope they dont get the speed limit through.

Greets, Arno

The difference is in Germany most have good autobahn etiquette, overtake then pull in. This is not the case in many places, whilst I was living in the US i saw so much bad stupid driving at very low speeds so the fixation on speeds is ridiculous.

I sat at 140mph on an Autobahn for quite some time, no issues apart from when I had to pull over to allow some Audi A8 to cruise by.

The green Party are a bunch of tofu munching morons want an all out war on the motorist and need to be stopped. They are using this climate change malarkey to push their stupid agenda. here in the uk we have another bunch of cretins who are pushing their "20 is plenty" mantra to reduce speeds even more. If they succeed with that it should be mandatory that this extended to Ambulances and Fire Brigade so when they or a family member die etc due to a slow response then they can actually say that they don't care.

The war on the motorist is getting ridiculous together with these Electric car Zealots...

What we really need is an engine that is fuelled by the tears of Greta...

[Superhawk996]

. . . whilst I was living in the US i saw so much bad stupid driving at very low speeds so the fixation on speeds is ridiculous.

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Having lived in Europe, and traveled extensively with experience on both the German Autobahn and the Italian Autostrade's . . . you don't even know the 1/2 of it here in the US. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)

US drivers are among the worst in the world.

[jd74914]

Having lived in Europe, and traveled extensively with experience on both the German Autobahn and the Italian Autostrade's . . . you don't even know the 1/2 of it here in the US. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)

Of course when you get off the Autostrade particularly as you go south or to Sicily...some parts make US drivers look good. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

[jim912928]

Nice summer day....heading home from work (around 7pm)...just got on a divided freeway. Was in my 928, tunes playing, sunroof open....nobody in front of me nor behind me until...flashing lights and a bleep of a siren. I was pulled over by a state cop. He walked up (turns out he was heading down an onramp while I buzzed by) and asked if I new how fast I was going...I politely replied that I really didn't and was just enjoying the drive home from work on a nice day. He said he was doing 95 when he entered onto the freeway and I was still pulling away! I'm thinking oh shit, reckless driving and I'm going to jail....he stepped back and looked at the car then said: I loved this car in the movie Risky Business, I'd hate to see you and this car wrapped around a tree....slow down and have a nice evening. He then turned, walked away, drove off and beeped his horn when he went passed me!

[mepstein]

I’ve gotten off with warnings just by being polite and honest (hard for me but you know...). The last one when I made a rolling stop at a stop sign (no cars, back road) the cop said he was just looking for drunk drivers and said have a nice night.

[eric9144]

Just want to set the record straight, it wasn't me, I have a license (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dancinnanner.gif)

[eric9144]

It is good to be nice to cops. They have an incredibly tough job. Normal people don't need to make it any harder.

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[worn]

It is good to be nice to cops. They have an incredibly tough job. Normal people don't need to make it any harder.

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Driving more than sixty years without a ticket, though once I forgot to put on new tabs. I think it is frightening to have to pull over random nut jobs as part of everyday work.
But I have for many years wondered how much you have to break the law to deserve to be in the left lane (you hardly ever find me there). So, a person is in urban traffic and passing car after car at ten mph over the limit. Someone comes behind them wanting to do twenty over. Does the latter have a beef because the former won’t duck into the right lane? Don’t tell me this isn’t real because it is. There is no Autobahn anywhere in the US. Get into Montana or the Dakotas or maybe Delaware and sure, the highway beckons. I am tired of having some big ass vehicle inches from my bumper when I have only one ton to their three.

[Superhawk996]

But I have for many years wondered how much you have to break the law to deserve to be in the left lane (you hardly ever find me there). So, a person is in urban traffic and passing car after car at ten mph over the limit. Someone comes behind them wanting to do twenty over. Does the latter have a beef because the former won’t duck into the right lane? Don’t tell me this isn’t real because it is.

That's an odd way to put it. @worn -- the following is not directed at you. Rather attempting to answer the question you posed and as a commentary on observed traffic behavior, not your personal behavior.

Simply put, the left lane is a passing lane. This is where lane discipline in Europe or even our neighbors in Canada seem to have a better grasp of traffic flow and common courtesty.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passing_lane#...20to%20overtake.

"Common practice and most law on United States highways is that the left lane is reserved for passing and faster moving traffic, and that traffic using the left lane must yield to traffic wishing to overtake.

The United States Uniform Vehicle Code states:

Upon all roadways any vehicle proceeding at less than the normal speed of traffic at the time and place and under the conditions then existing shall be driven in the right-hand lane then available for traffic ...

It is also illegal in many states in the US to use the "far left" or passing lane on a major highway as a traveling lane (as opposed to passing), or to fail to yield to faster moving traffic that is attempting to overtake in that lane. For example, Colorado's "Left Lane Law" states:

A person shall not drive a motor vehicle in the passing lane of a highway if the speed-limit is sixty-five miles per hour

or more unless such person is passing other motor-vehicles that are in a non-passing lane...[1]"

Unfortunately in the US, this is a law that the police choose not to enforce in favor of simply sitting in the median and clocking traffic. The offense of "speeding" is much easier to enforce and yields more $$/hr for various jurisdictions than enforcemnt of proper lane use would. As a result we now have a large swath of the population that is paralyzed with fear of "speeding" and then decide that since they are doing the speed limit, they might just as well spread out across all available lanes. To hell with the proper use of a passing lane.

[worn]

I hear you, but in my scenario the slower driver was using the left lane to pass. It passed one car and then although it could then squeeze over it would have to slow down to avoid the next car right ahead in the right lane - that he would pass rather quickly if he simply stayed in the left lane. When this happens to me I am in my 2200 lb car and have a pickup truck so close behind me I cannot see the windshield in my rear view mirror. Personally, I would probably just pull over to the right and accept the fact that I am gonna have to slow down.
I am not gonna say teeners shouldn't speed, because driving fast is one reason to have a sports car (although driving the limit in a 914 is a ton of fun more than breaking the law in an SUV). I will say that we lose a lot of young and promising people every year in car crashes and almost every traffic fatality would have been avoided if all of the rules were followed.
Where we probably agree is that as a group 914 owners probably actually like driving and take it more seriously than those relying on lane assist and other props that enable careless driving.