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> 40 or 44 IDF Webers, size matters
930cabman
post Apr 14 2021, 05:00 PM
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We are converting a stock 2 liter 4 cyl from D jet to Webers. My gut is telling me a 40 IDF with 32mm venturis is the correct starting point. I am considering purchase of a complete set of 44 IDF's, but are unable to locate 32 mm venturis. Assuming 32MM venturis can be found are 44 IDF"s too large for a stock 2 liter?
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post Apr 15 2021, 12:19 PM
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I am on the side of Fuel Injection.

I have run both Carbs and FI on a variety of engines in 914s. I have had a L-Jet four, a D-Jet four, a Carbed four with both Dells and Webers, a Carbed six, a MFI six, and a Motronic six.

The carbed four was the worst of the bunch. I never could get the carbs to stay synced, I always had problems with hard starting and fuel smell issues. I also had issues with hydraulic lock when it rained. Picture me in a driving rainstorm in the parking lot at work trying to get my car started so I could drive home.

Putting the stock D-Jet back on that engine made all the problems go away.

The second worst was the MFI six. It was great when it was running right. Fantastic throttle response, great power and it SOUNDS great. But when it got off, it was a bitch to fix. Hours spent with the protractors, and a wrench to get each stack synced, then syncing the pump to them as a group. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) Even when it was right, cold starts were an excrsize in frustration. Ether in the air cleaner. Cough sputter die. Another shot of Ether, cough sputter.. start running on 4 cylinders. Keep it running until the other two finally start to fire. Wait 5 minutes for it to warm up before I could drive.


The best is by far the Motronic. Turn the key, it idles... rain, shine,cold or hot. Second best is the L-Jet. But it is the father of the Motronic. It has cold idle issues, but that can be overcome with a little heel/toe until it warms up a little.

The d-jet is better than carbs. Even the carbs on our factory six irritate me.

I would buy a Bowlsby harness and put the D-Jet back on the car. Better gas mileage, better performance, and less gas stink.

Just my $.02.

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930cabman   40 or 44 IDF Webers   Apr 14 2021, 05:00 PM
nditiz1   40 IDFs are best, but 44s will work if you choke t...   Apr 14 2021, 05:11 PM
barefoot   Question: is the diameter air the manifold interf...   Apr 14 2021, 05:17 PM
johnhora   930cabman... what's wrong with the stock D-Je...   Apr 14 2021, 05:38 PM
930cabman   930cabman... what's wrong with the stock D-J...   Apr 14 2021, 06:06 PM
brant   930cabman... what's wrong with the stock D-...   Apr 14 2021, 09:01 PM
930cabman   [quote name='930cabman' post='2908097' date='Apr ...   Apr 15 2021, 05:02 AM
Superhawk996   When operating correctly the Bosch system is far ...   Apr 15 2021, 05:42 AM
brant   1985 Alfa spider, maybe it was L jet, but very si...   Apr 15 2021, 08:58 AM
roblav1   At what what RPM is max HP? I'll take a swag ...   Apr 14 2021, 06:15 PM
930cabman   This is a stock 2 liter 4 cylinder engine. my gut ...   Apr 14 2021, 06:19 PM
roblav1   My 5800 rpm swag was off. My 914 spec says max hp...   Apr 14 2021, 06:27 PM
930cabman   My 5800 rpm swag was off. My 914 spec says max h...   Apr 14 2021, 06:40 PM
type2man   I would run 44 Webers. Personally I run 45 dells o...   Apr 14 2021, 06:36 PM
IronHillRestorations   You want 40's. With that engine the vacuum si...   Apr 14 2021, 07:11 PM
Root_Werks   You want 40's. With that engine the vacuum s...   Apr 15 2021, 09:29 AM
johnhora   OK so you have: Stock 2.0L type 4 with stock FI ca...   Apr 14 2021, 07:20 PM
johnhora   CB Performance's Bob Tomlinson's' book...   Apr 14 2021, 07:29 PM
930cabman   For me, it comes down to simple. Bolt on carbs, ...   Apr 15 2021, 05:46 AM
nditiz1   Simplicity for me too. I worked with the black ma...   Apr 15 2021, 06:11 AM
VaccaRabite   When I had my 2056 carbed I tried 44s and 40s. Th...   Apr 15 2021, 07:02 AM
930cabman   When I had my 2056 carbed I tried 44s and 40s. T...   Apr 15 2021, 07:27 AM
Racer   I ran 40's on a "stock" 1.7 and the ...   Apr 15 2021, 07:50 AM
Tdskip   For 90% of your driving throttle response matters ...   Apr 15 2021, 08:26 AM
ClayPerrine   I am on the side of Fuel Injection. I have run ...   Apr 15 2021, 12:19 PM
930cabman   It's looking like D jet might be winning. Fi...   Apr 15 2021, 12:49 PM
930cabman   I committed to D jet, sending the ECU to Module Ex...   Apr 16 2021, 01:08 PM
ClayPerrine   I committed to D jet, sending the ECU to Module E...   Apr 16 2021, 01:11 PM
930cabman   I committed to D jet, sending the ECU to Module ...   Apr 16 2021, 03:08 PM
bbrock   I committed to D jet, sending the ECU to Module E...   Apr 16 2021, 01:52 PM
Superhawk996   I committed to D jet, sending the ECU to Module E...   Apr 17 2021, 08:13 AM
bbrock   I've gotten the impression from reading variou...   Apr 17 2021, 08:36 AM
Superhawk996   I've gotten the impression from reading vario...   Apr 17 2021, 08:52 AM
930cabman   Yes, I have gathered the same, these rarely fail, ...   Apr 17 2021, 01:05 PM
stownsen914   I didn't read the whole thread, but my experie...   Apr 17 2021, 04:48 PM
930cabman   I didn't read the whole thread, but my experi...   Apr 17 2021, 05:21 PM


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