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Heat exchangers, Restoration Design vs SSI |
Warren914 |
Apr 15 2021, 05:03 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 93 Joined: 26-February 21 From: Nova Scotia Member No.: 25,265 Region Association: Canada |
I'm planning an exhaust refit on my '75 914. Any thoughts on stainless steel heat exchangers from Restoration Design vs those from SSI? Extra bits and pieces will be needed...
https://www.restoration-design.com/store/product/PP033 |
914werke |
Apr 15 2021, 12:05 PM
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"I got blisters on me fingers" Group: Members Posts: 10,057 Joined: 22-March 03 From: USofA Member No.: 453 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Guys - Warren has a `75 2L - not a 1.8L - so all this retrofit stuff isn't applicable. IIRC his is a straightforward change-out of 2L SSI-HEs from the OE steel ones, although he may have to do a crapalytic converter delete if it was a California car with one. Also, IIRC 75-76 still used the 2L Banana Muffler. AFAIK only a new set of gaskets & would probably want to get a nice new shiney set of bolts/washers/nuts attachment hardware. I'm a 73 2L guy - so if I'm wrong on that, then give Warren what he needs for a 75-76 2.0 conversion to the 73-76 SSI HEs. Warren, unless your 914 is a rusty basket case - bite the bullet & do the SS HEs from RD or any source - Also - SMC, Pelican, AA, & other 914 parts suppliers carry these SSI HEs & are also supporters/vendors/advertisers on 914world. But RD is close to you in Canada, so you may have lower shipping & no exchange rate issues with them being in CAN. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Tom /////// Tom you are wrong. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) 75 & 76 use the same HE & muffler setup for both 1.8 & 2.0L & no they do not use the banana muffler. See my attached pic. & subsequent caption |
Tom_T |
Apr 15 2021, 12:50 PM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,318 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California |
Guys - Warren has a `75 2L - not a 1.8L - so all this retrofit stuff isn't applicable. IIRC his is a straightforward change-out of 2L SSI-HEs from the OE steel ones, although he may have to do a crapalytic converter delete if it was a California car with one. Also, IIRC 75-76 still used the 2L Banana Muffler. AFAIK only a new set of gaskets & would probably want to get a nice new shiney set of bolts/washers/nuts attachment hardware. I'm a 73 2L guy - so if I'm wrong on that, then give Warren what he needs for a 75-76 2.0 conversion to the 73-76 SSI HEs. Warren, unless your 914 is a rusty basket case - bite the bullet & do the SS HEs from RD or any source - Also - SMC, Pelican, AA, & other 914 parts suppliers carry these SSI HEs & are also supporters/vendors/advertisers on 914world. But RD is close to you in Canada, so you may have lower shipping & no exchange rate issues with them being in CAN. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Tom /////// Tom you are wrong. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) 75 & 76 use the same HE & muffler setup for both 1.8 & 2.0L & no they do not use the banana muffler. See my attached pic. & subsequent caption Rich - I stand corrected on the original factory set-up. I did say that the catalytic converter 75-76 versions were different, but I had thought that the non-cat 914s still used the banana muffler, whereas the cat cars had the cat + a shorter muffler. However, maybe those were converted exhaust 75-76 914s that I'm recalling having seen. As for your caption at the later post - for Warren the L & R Flapper Boxes are available new from all of the sources I noted below, which are OEM JP/Dansk parts. BTW Warren - JP/Dansk is now the Porsche OEM for these & other 914 parts, & are also sold through P-dealers. According to SMC's parts listing below that I just checked - there is only one 2.0 SSI HE for 74-76 - which was what I meant for his 2.0 SS HEs. And in later years JP/Dansk/SSI used to only offer a 2.0 HE set, & you had to update to it for 1.7/1.8 cars (except perhaps in the very early years of SSI HEs back in the 80s-90s they may have made a 1.7/1.8 version). https://sierramadrecollection.com/914-914-6...2-0-p21825.html Warren - I don't know if you looked at SMC or any of the other 914 parts suppliers, but SMC also offers both the JP/Dansk 2L Banana & a 2L SS muffler, as well as many of the other parts that Warren will need new (gaskets, hardware), & some of the tins, flappers, etc. at this link: https://sierramadrecollection.com/914-914-6...d-exhaust-c242/ (Note that they've listed the 912-SSI HEs here fro 914s - but I think that may be a mistake, or else just an alternative fitment for the 912/912E version, & I don't know how well that would fit the 914 space. The actual p/n 914-SSI HEs are further down on that linked page above.) There is similar diversity at Auto Atlanta, Stoddards, Einmalig, etc. - plus Porsche Classic has brought back a lot of parts offered through their authorized resellers & P-dealers. Also for Warren - between JP/Dansk, SMC, RD, AA & Stoddard (& maybe 914Rubber) - I think that they have many of the plates & guides etc. now available as new repros (several are at the above link for one source). (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Tom /////// |
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