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Warren914
post Apr 15 2021, 05:03 AM
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I'm planning an exhaust refit on my '75 914. Any thoughts on stainless steel heat exchangers from Restoration Design vs those from SSI? Extra bits and pieces will be needed...

https://www.restoration-design.com/store/product/PP033
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post Apr 15 2021, 02:34 PM
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Ok Tom's a bit testy today (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Couple of points: nowhere did I represent that I was soliciting a sale.
I simply provided an image for reference AND THEN found I had to correct misinformation being promoted.
Tom if you are or have been a customer...Thank You. Your patronage of 914werke is greatly appreciated.
Im not sure where you get the implication or suggestion that the OP buy only from select sources?
If I appeared to be picking on you, my apologies, not intended but you did post inaccurate info, based on vendor marketing detail, in this thread ... more than once
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post Apr 15 2021, 08:06 PM
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QUOTE(914werke @ Apr 15 2021, 12:34 PM) *

Ok Tom's a bit testy today (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Couple of points: nowhere did I represent that I was soliciting a sale.
I simply provided an image for reference AND THEN found I had to correct misinformation being promoted.
Tom if you are or have been a customer...Thank You. You patronage of 914werke is greatly appreciated.
Im not sure where you get the implication that it was suggested that the OP buy only from select sources?
If I appeared to be picking on you, my apologies, not intended but you did post inaccurate info, based on vendor marketing detail, in this thread ... more than once


Yes & I'm frustrated that the debate continued after I'd already conceded that 75-76 was different per your post #11 Rich. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dead horse.gif)

I was basically correcting the folks who were talking that the OP Warren had a `75 1.8 - so I pointed out that he'd clarified in his post #3 that it's a 2.0 75, & that all reccos should be based on that sub-model.

As I said in my post #14 - I'd posted the 2nd post that you blew up over BEFORE I saw your post about the 75-76 being different & backdating - and after my initial post when I said to correct me if I was wrong.

I also said that Warren should check his current parts stash to see what he may already have on hand for the retrofit HEs. That's pretty common sense advice.

Yes - I've bought various parts from you - & I'm sorry that you don't remember that.

I got the impression that you felt that my comments initially about Warren not needing the other parts, as my interfering with you're trying to offer the package in your photo. And I really don't think that there was anything wrong if you were - the OP was asking for guidance & parts.

So sorry for misreading your intentions.

And NO - I did NOT post inaccurate vendor info in here after I saw your 75-76 correction - as I've noted several times now. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dead horse.gif)

After that I posted another source for HE & other exhaust parts at SMC, as well as suggesting several other sources.

By the time I posted the parts AFTER seeing your post that the 75-76 is different from 73-74, I had moved on to offering additional sources for the added bits he'll need to backdate - including the repro air guide plate, L & R flapper boxes, & other mounting hardware & gaskets & kits of same.

No not all inclusive - but I clearly stated SOME of the parts he'd need to install the backdated 2.0 SSI HE's were there. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dead horse.gif)


For example the air guide plate - should he need one/both -
https://sierramadrecollection.com/914-914-6...-74-p15921.html

IIRC some of the other parts sources also carry a Right Air Guide Plate repro as well.


SMC also carries the correct JP/Dansk/SSI 2.0 HEs, the JP/Dansk 2.0 Banana Muffler & their alternative SS 2.0 Muffler - but figure 15% off per my sale note below:

https://sierramadrecollection.com/914-914-6...2-0-p21825.html

https://sierramadrecollection.com/914-914-6...-75-p24718.html

https://sierramadrecollection.com/914-914-6...-76-p31556.html

Warren - also look for the other gaskets & hardware yourself Warren for the SSI-HE Backdate at this SMC link:

https://sierramadrecollection.com/914-914-6...d-exhaust-c242/

https://sierramadrecollection.com/914-914-6...-76-p25000.html

https://sierramadrecollection.com/914-914-6...-74-p18863.html - x2

https://sierramadrecollection.com/914-914-6...-74-p23839.html
(also several others available in kits or individually - my mechanic prefers the copper ones, & he was training on 914s by Porsche back in 1969)


Also Warren - the L & R Flapper Boxes if needed are here (hoses, clamps, etc. are at the page linked further down for the "bits-n-pieces") -

https://sierramadrecollection.com/914-914-6...914-p18610.html

https://sierramadrecollection.com/914-914-6...914-p18609.html


Those above were my previous suggestions from post #14, and they were & are correct for his backdating his 75-76 with 73-74 SSI HEs etc.

Rich - I do not believe that ANY of those parts above are incorrect for Warren's backdating - nor were the ones I'd posted at post #14 after standing corrected at that post.

So I don't know why you said that I'd given incorrect parts references? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dead horse.gif)


But if you feel otherwise Rich - then just give Warren the links to the correct parts, and leave further recriminations of me out of the discussion ... or I'll just get testy again. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


Warren - you'll have to hunt down the rest of the bits at Bruce's List & Rich's photo at other new & used parts sources - assuming that you don't have any of them on hand.

Bruce had offered the parts on his list to get blasted & PC'ed if you do need any or all of them.

I don't know what part(s) Rich has available, other than I think that he mentioned his 2.0 muffler hangers.

Part of the reason that I suggested SMC as a source, is that they've just started a 15% off Spring Sale - according to the SMC email which I received today. So Warren could save 15% on all parts ordered for his 914 build - but he'll need to check if that is the best price for each at other sources - even with 15% off.

For Warren & all - the 15% off code is APRIL15 at checkout to apply the discount.

So Rich & RJames & all - let's all just move on now.

The (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dead horse.gif) is officially dead now! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Cheers! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
Tom
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Warren914   Heat exchangers   Apr 15 2021, 05:03 AM
Racer   iirc, the muffler and hangers for a 1.7/1.8 are di...   Apr 15 2021, 05:25 AM
Warren914   iirc, the muffler and hangers for a 1.7/1.8 are d...   Apr 15 2021, 05:40 AM
bdstone914   iirc, the muffler and hangers for a 1.7/1.8 are ...   Apr 15 2021, 11:34 AM
Tom_T   What you will need is: 1. left and right J tubes...   Apr 15 2021, 12:14 PM
Tom_T   iirc, the muffler and hangers for a 1.7/1.8 are ...   Apr 15 2021, 11:59 AM
Mark Henry   The SSI heat exchangers are the same as the ones R...   Apr 15 2021, 06:57 AM
bdstone914   The SSI heat exchangers are the same as the ones ...   Apr 15 2021, 11:28 AM
mepstein   Yep. Only one manufacturer for the heat exchangers...   Apr 15 2021, 07:10 AM
914werke   Ive been doing a few backdates lately :) New/ol...   Apr 15 2021, 11:48 AM
Mark Henry   Guys.... Warren is my customer, I think he's g...   Apr 15 2021, 04:28 PM
Tom_T   Guys.... Warren is my customer, I think he's ...   Apr 15 2021, 08:20 PM
914werke   BTW flappers aren't pictured because they are ...   Apr 15 2021, 12:01 PM
914werke   Guys - Warren has a `75 2L - not a 1.8L - so ...   Apr 15 2021, 12:05 PM
Tom_T   [quote name='Tom_T' post='2908301' date='Apr 15 2...   Apr 15 2021, 12:50 PM
914werke   :wacko: Again, NO! Tom see the OP 1st post. ...   Apr 15 2021, 12:32 PM
Tom_T   [quote name='Tom_T' post='2908306' date='Apr 15 2...   Apr 15 2021, 01:00 PM
rjames   @Tom_T I think you may still be missing that SS...   Apr 15 2021, 02:16 PM
Tom_T   [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s...   Apr 15 2021, 06:19 PM
914werke   Ok Tom's a bit testy today :) Couple of points...   Apr 15 2021, 02:34 PM
Tom_T   Ok Tom's a bit testy today :) Couple of point...   Apr 15 2021, 08:06 PM
Mark Henry   That's not the engine Warren is getting, that...   Apr 16 2021, 07:39 AM
Warren914   I didn't think it looked like my white engine....   Apr 16 2021, 08:19 AM
Tom_T   I didn't think it looked like my white engine...   Apr 16 2021, 11:54 AM
Tom_T   That's [b]not the engine Warren is getting, t...   Apr 16 2021, 11:23 AM
poorsche914   ... that guy down in Georgia who used to do 914s...   Apr 19 2021, 11:26 AM
Root_Werks   Dunno if this is still true or not, but 10+ years ...   Apr 16 2021, 08:41 AM
Mark Henry   Dunno if this is still true or not, but 10+ years...   Apr 16 2021, 09:44 AM
Root_Werks   Dunno if this is still true or not, but 10+ year...   Apr 16 2021, 10:54 AM
Tom_T   [quote name='Mark Henry' post='2908523' date='Apr...   Apr 16 2021, 12:20 PM
Warren914   The PO may have made changes. Mark is going to hav...   Apr 16 2021, 02:52 PM
dr914@autoatlanta.com   they are the same, stainless sold to dansk who mak...   Apr 16 2021, 09:22 AM
Mark Henry   Warren just drop shipped me a new set of SSI's...   Apr 16 2021, 11:17 AM
mepstein   It’s worth it. A good heating system really adds...   Apr 16 2021, 06:06 PM
Warren914   It’s worth it. A good heating system really add...   Apr 17 2021, 05:47 AM
mb911   Wow lots of information on this thread. Sounds lik...   Apr 17 2021, 10:49 AM
Mark Henry   I just got Warren's new set of SSI's deliv...   Apr 22 2021, 07:55 AM
Warren914   I just got Warren's new set of SSI's deli...   Apr 22 2021, 05:01 PM


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