 crank shaft end play, Lots of assembly lube on trust bearing (NEED ADVICE) |
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| rfinegan |
 Apr 24 2021, 09:33 AM
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Senior Member  Group: Members Posts: 973 Joined: 8-February 13 From: NC Member No.: 15,499 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region 
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Hi World,
I added the shims to my 2056 I took out of the engine to get a base line. Same crank and shims but new bearings. So cleaned the shims and installed new Flywheel WO seal and clean shims. tight or just right? Do I hose the lube out with brake clean( dry bearing)? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiM03KJbUhk Please advise -Best Robert |
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| Mark Henry |
Apr 24 2021, 10:05 AM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
Tolerance is .003 to .006"
Lube shouldn't make a difference. That extra .001" you see prying with a screwdriver, you're actually bending the crank /flywheel ever so slightly. Don't do that. |
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| iankarr |
Apr 24 2021, 11:17 AM
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The wrencher formerly known as Cuddy_K Group: Members Posts: 2,472 Joined: 22-May 15 From: Heber City, UT Member No.: 18,749 Region Association: Intermountain Region
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Mark is the man.
I can't tell in this video if you have more than .001 end play. You should see .003 to .006 AFTER pulliing / pushing, with no further force applied. In the video it looks like you have .003 while still leveraging with the screwdriver. Or is that needle bouncing because you're pushing, resting, and pulling again? You're looking for .003-.006 at rest. |
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| Montreal914 |
Apr 24 2021, 11:31 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,544 Joined: 8-August 10 From: Claremont, CA Member No.: 12,023 Region Association: Southern California
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I thought I remember doing this by hand, no prying tools but it has been a while... Really feels like you are bending something more than measuring some play. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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| rfinegan |
Apr 24 2021, 12:40 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 973 Joined: 8-February 13 From: NC Member No.: 15,499 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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@mark henry and All,
I swiped around some shims and got the familiar clunk now... will post the http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...51117&st=80 thread best regards -Robert |
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| barefoot |
Apr 24 2021, 12:42 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,270 Joined: 19-March 13 From: Charleston SC Member No.: 15,673 Region Association: South East States
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I had inconsistent results with lube on the flywheel shims, cleaned them off then got better results. then re-lubed them before torquing the flywheel (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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| rfinegan |
Apr 24 2021, 12:56 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 973 Joined: 8-February 13 From: NC Member No.: 15,499 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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Yep that was part of it...much better now..thanks for the feed back
QUOTE(barefoot @ Apr 24 2021, 10:42 AM)  I had inconsistent results with lube on the flywheel shims, cleaned them off then got better results. then re-lubed them before torquing the flywheel (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) |
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| Mark Henry |
Apr 24 2021, 03:41 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
I use the feeler gauge type, I found it's just as accurate. I use two shims, measure and do the math. I then add the third shim and RMS. Don't forget the flywheel O-ring, pilot bearing, felt washer (seal) and a new large lock washer.
Once done I do one last check, so to me the lube doesn't make a difference when measuring. Pro tip use an old lock washer when measuring your end play so the bolts don't mark the flywheel. |
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