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MN 914 build, Metal roof, Brembo brakes, Subaru EJ20TT, receiver hitch..., Info on my build |
914Subaru |
Sep 4 2021, 10:14 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 59 Joined: 19-October 08 From: Duluth, MN Member No.: 9,667 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
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I purchased this car in 2008 working on it off and on and around 2018 it was far from done but could be driven. Around Christmas time I jokingly asked my son to go with me to the 2020 Red Rocks Classic and to my surprise he said yes. From that point on it was a mad dash to get it ready and I worked on it all the way up until we left getting 3 hours of sleep the night before. I even installed some temporary carpet when we stop at Estes park for the night. 3,500 miles later I would have to say that was one of my all time favorite weeks of my life. The temporary carpet is still in the car with a few other loose ends to finish up. The car is an amazing drive that zips around effortlessly. Original fuchs wheels: 16 x 6 front 205/55R16 and 16 x 7 rear 225/50R16. Calipers are Porsche 944 Turbo Brembo. Rear brake rotors and E brake 911 and 911 center mount E-brake handle. Front rotors are AP Racing 28mm x 328mm Weltmeister adjustable front sway bar 19 mm diameter. Rear sway bar included but not installed. 944 CV joints, 911 stub shafts with T2 axles. Transmission Subaru five speed with coupler and rear cover. Shift lever is Subaru with direct mechanical linkage rod. Subaru twin turbo engine, Japan only, EJ 20 TT, completely stock(280hp) The conversion utilizes all Subaru mounts including the top link eliminating vibration and noise. Metal roof that stiffens and strengthens the chassis. Rear pinch welds on the B-pillar have been removed and fully TIG welded. The transition from the B pillar to the rear quarters is the shape you get after removing the trim and pinch weld. The rear quarters are original metal that has been re-shaved for wider tires and to retain the narrow body look. To save weight it has a fiberglass hood, trunk lid and rear bumper. 1-1/4 receiver hitch with cargo box mounts and cargo box included. Originally a Texas car. Paint is base clear to the original metalic silver color. Johnny’s Autobody in Wisconsin did the final bodywork and paint. Picture of the fresh paint This is what it looked like when I first got it home. The original car looks a lot better than it really was. Typical truck rust repair and also the entire floor. I was able to move the rotisserie in and out of the garage which was very handy for sandblasting. It was made entirely from stuff I purchased at an auction for about $40. The rotisserie is no more other that I still have the casters. 1987 Porsche 944 Turbo Calipers Short Drive Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMiUI5mhW50 Walk around video next to a 944 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNIYW9a19X8 Cold Start Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jXnhQcwF4Y Shifter Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gP73spLjl5I Attached image(s) |
Optimusglen |
Sep 4 2021, 10:39 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 901 Joined: 26-February 16 From: Minneapolis Member No.: 19,709 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Very cool! Always nice to see MN based cars. That metal roof looks nice.
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76-914 |
Sep 5 2021, 12:11 AM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,489 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California |
Hey Ross, why the respray? Looked good last time I saw it. Which one gets the 6 speed? Is the red one your son's 914? Hows the bus with the 30D running. Where in the Hell ya been? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Kent
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JRust |
Sep 5 2021, 12:24 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,305 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Corvallis Oregon Member No.: 129 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Yep can't wait to see more pics. Wish you were coming to Red Rocks this next week
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Luke M |
Sep 5 2021, 07:55 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,369 Joined: 8-February 05 From: WNY Member No.: 3,574 Region Association: North East States |
Looks nice. Lets see more pics of the roof please..
Was it home made or from another car? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
914Subaru |
Sep 5 2021, 09:57 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 59 Joined: 19-October 08 From: Duluth, MN Member No.: 9,667 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Looks nice. Lets see more pics of the roof please.. Was it home made or from another car? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) I don’t have many pictures of the fabrication process for the roof. The center main portion is the rear deck lid turned 180°. I remember making a wood buck and forming a rib for the rear roll bar and used the Targa top as a guide to form the sections above the side windows. Also in the rear of the roll bar I tig welded the pinch weld and eliminated the trim. This first picture was not the final design, and the front edge was bent down to reduce warpage when welding. It doesn't look like it from the outside, but I gained a small amount of headroom. Rear quarts were re-shaped for tire clearance. Original fuchs wheels: 16 x 6 front 205/55R16 and 16 x 7 rear 225/50R16. |
914Subaru |
Sep 5 2021, 10:33 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 59 Joined: 19-October 08 From: Duluth, MN Member No.: 9,667 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Hey Ross, why the respray? Looked good last time I saw it. Which one gets the 6 speed? Is the red one your son's 914? Hows the bus with the 30D running. Where in the Hell ya been? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Kent The picture of the red one is the day my son and I drove it home. This is the same one 12 years later after I over modified it and made it silver we drove it to RRC 2020. The bus is almost done and is getting a 6 speed but due to time constraints, I am putting a 2.5 Subaru and not the EZ30D. That leaves a EZ30D and a 6speed conversion kit un-used. All my toys have Subaru's in them. |
Andyrew |
Sep 5 2021, 10:51 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
Roof looks nice!! Love the car!
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mgp4591 |
Sep 5 2021, 11:20 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,366 Joined: 1-August 12 From: Salt Lake City Ut Member No.: 14,748 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
Radiator over the engine or creating a vacuum for venting the engine compartment?
Very nice metalwork and finish! |
rgalla9146 |
Sep 6 2021, 05:18 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,545 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Paramus NJ Member No.: 5,176 Region Association: None |
Looks nice. Lets see more pics of the roof please.. Was it home made or from another car? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) I don’t have many pictures of the fabrication process for the roof. The center main portion is the rear deck lid turned 180°. I remember making a wood buck and forming a rib for the rear roll bar and used the Targa top as a guide to form the sections above the side windows. Also in the rear of the roll bar I tig welded the pinch weld and eliminated the trim. This first picture was not the final design, and the front edge of the trunk lid was bent down to reduce warpage when welding. It doesn't look like it from the outside, but I gained a small amount of headroom. Beautiful job on the roof. Added smoothness too ! I've wanted to do that for so long. No squeeks, fewer (?) leaks, quieter and more rigid. Great work. |
mb911 |
Sep 6 2021, 08:03 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,802 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I think it looks really nice.
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Krieger |
Sep 6 2021, 09:40 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,701 Joined: 24-May 04 From: Santa Rosa CA Member No.: 2,104 Region Association: None |
Fantastic job on the roof!
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914Subaru |
Sep 8 2021, 08:03 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 59 Joined: 19-October 08 From: Duluth, MN Member No.: 9,667 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I retained all the Subaru mounts including the upper mount. This setup works great, and any Subaru will easily bolt to this chassis including the EZ30D. With this setup there is no odd vibrations, is stable and its quiet. In the future to preserve these cars I would steer you to utilize the cradle that is more common these days, but I am pleased with how this functions.
When the floor was out everything was removed from the tunnel and the custom aluminum coolant lines run through the tunnel. Picture shows upper Subaru mount To reduce weight all heat tubes in the 914 frame have been removed and the chassis holes have been welded shut. Also to reduce weight it has light weight fiberglass hood and rear deck lid. Aluminum coolant tubes run through tunnel. Bottom View showering shifter linkage. I made a couple 1.5 to 1.25 adapters for the forward hoses. This is the water temperature filler tee I made. I was asked if the front end could be changed to a stock look. The answer is yes, everything in the front is bolted on. What you see that is black is .040" aluminum that is typically used for stock car bodies. Under the aluminum skin is a 1.75 x 063 tube bumper (seen on rotisserie picture) that the aluminum and radiator is attached to. I have collected a front body panel and bumper for the possibility to convert to stock. |
914Subaru |
Sep 8 2021, 08:08 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 59 Joined: 19-October 08 From: Duluth, MN Member No.: 9,667 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
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914Subaru |
Sep 8 2021, 08:29 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 59 Joined: 19-October 08 From: Duluth, MN Member No.: 9,667 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I upgraded the CV joints to handle the 280hp. I used;
911 stub axles and flanges. 944 turbo CV joints. 914 Wheel bearing. I am 99% sure the axles are from a VW bay window bus. Custom made bearing spacer. I made the Subaru to Porsche CV joint adapters. Now you can just buy them and that is what I recommend. 944 Turbo Calipers (Brembo) Front Rotors AP Racing 28mm x 328mm Rear Rotors 911 Future Project: The front brake setup will only accept 16x6 Fuchs, wheel spacers are required to space the wheel away from the caliper. To fit 16x7 Fuchs or 15x7 phone dialers the option I was considering was to build up another set of struts with Porsche 911 Carrera 84-89 rotors, Stomski Racing adapter, Boxster calipers 986.351.421.03 / 986.351.422.03 and 911 strut with 3.5 c/c caliper bolt spacing. A future maybe brake project At this point I would maybe go Safari with a set of Elephant Racing lifted struts. Interior is a work in progress. Aluminum fuel cell has been fitted with the Subaru in-tank fuel pump, fuel level sensors and vent valve with rollover check valve. A baffle was added to create a small chamber for the pump pickup. Subaru pump assemblies have a jet pump on the return line and that is used to pull fuel from the main area to the smaller baffled area of the pump so the pump doesn't get starved from fuel when the tank runs low. Also shown in picture is the Subaru hydraulic clutch master cylinder and Subaru brake master cylinder. Subaru STI hanging pedals, power brakes and hydraulic clutch all work flawless. Note the calipers are Porsche 944 turbo and that car has power brakes also so using power brakes with these calipers works well. |
914Subaru |
Oct 23 2021, 10:10 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 59 Joined: 19-October 08 From: Duluth, MN Member No.: 9,667 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
The Engine
2.0 Sequential Twin Turbo 275 HP Redline 7,500 RPM Engine code: EJ208DWBKE Transmission TY754VBAAA 1st3.166 2nd1.882 3rd1.296 4th0.972 5th0.738 F.D.4.444 Doner car model BH5B5CD Drivability; Amazing torque at low RMP's and you can hear the little turbo making boost below 2000RPM. Plenty of power for normal driving including passing cars on a 2 lane road. A dip in power at 4000rpm then the beast is released and you're in race mode. Once you're in the second turbo it stays in that mode I think down to 3K rpm so once you're in the second turbo it will stay in. It's an interesting and amazing drive that requires judgement and control from the driver to make it shine and not an electric car that does everything for you. I see it as 2 modes, normal and race and they are very separate because of the dip for the second turbo to spool up. This engine being a JDM is not compatible with most OBD2 code readers even though it is an OBD plug. Subaru SSM (Subaru Select Monitor) works. I use the cable and software from obdii365.com SUBARU FreeSSM V1.2.5 that works with a laptop. Check Engine Light Codes (CEL) With ignition OFF plug the black plug together. Turn the ignition ON and identify how many times the check engine light flashes (if any). This will be the error code stored in the ECU memory. Turn ignition OFF and unplug the connectors. ECU light flashes to indicate the error code, the slow flashes which come first are the tens digits. The fast flashes that come second are the single digits. For example, an error code of 13 will be one slow flash and 3 quick flashes straight after the first flash, then there will be a short break and it will flash the sequence again. 11 Crank angle sensor, Open or Short 12 Starter switch, Open or Short 13 Cam angle sensor, Open or Short 21 Water temperature sensor, Open or Short 22 Knock sensor, Open or Short 23 Air flow sensor, Open or Short 24 ISC valve, Open or Short 31Throttle position sensor, Open or Short 32 O2 sensor, Open or Short 33 Speed sensor, Open or Short 38 AT torque down request, Open or Short 44 Supercharging oppression output, Open or Short 45 Atmospheric pressure sensor/ Absolute pressure change solenoid,Open or Short 61 Inhalation valve solenoid, Open or Short 62 Exhaust valve solenoid (vacuum), Open or Short 63 Supercharging pressure relief valve solenoid, Open or Short 64 Secondary waste gate solenoid, Open or Short 65 Differential pressure sensor, Open or Short 66 Sequential turbo system, No rise in pressure or pressure excessive (Over boost) 67 Exhaust valve solenoid (positive pressure), Open or Short 68 Exhaust valve duty solenoid, Open or Short ECU Reset without a scan tool With ignition OFF, locate the 2 black ECU check connectors and the 2 green ECU reset connectors. There will be one female and one male of each color (Black & Green). Connect the black connectors together, and connect the green connectors together. Start the vehicle and drive until the check engine light starts flashing. ENSURE THE VEHICLE SPEED REMAINS ABOVE 11 Km/h (7mph). Then bring vehicle to a stop when it is safe to do so. Stop engine and turn ignition OFF. Disconnect the two black and two green connectors. I have found twin turbo information and trouble shooting advise on subyclub.com Compression Ratio 9:1 (US WRX is 8:1) This is possible partly because of the forged, molybdenum coated pistons The small turbo is always making boost. This is the smallest turbo I have ever seen. This picture shows the engine and transmission from Japan as I received it. Everything was very clean and ports were carefully blocked off. This picture shows wire harness and parts that showed up in great condition also. Primary Turbo only This diagram shows both turbos active. From a JDM AWD Subaru Liberty B4. This is a right hand drive car only, it will not fit in a LH drive car because the brake booster interferes with the added primary turbo. In wagon form The 1998 Subaru 2.0 twin turbo set a world speed record for a mass-produced turbocharged station wagon (1600cc-2000cc class) clocking 168.101mpg. Notice the muffler, this is only on the primary turbo pipe, the secondary is a straight pipe. The turbos and cats take some of the sound out. With the single muffler on only the primary makes it quiet to drive around town and on the highway. Not having a muffler on the secondary makes it obvious when its on line making boost and it sounds good. Best of both worlds a nice quiet cruiser and a loud obnoxious fast car. On 4 cylinder Subaru engines this belt will eliminate the AC and power steering pump. I am using the 5 speed split case transmission that came with the engine with the Bremar cover and locking collar. Attached image(s) |
rick 918-S |
Oct 23 2021, 10:40 AM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,416 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region |
Have to tell you guys Ross' car is F-A-S-T! He is a brainiac! Glad your posting this car! His dune buggy was awesome too.
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914Subaru |
Oct 31 2021, 08:59 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 59 Joined: 19-October 08 From: Duluth, MN Member No.: 9,667 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
The Yakima Cargo box. For the voyage from MN to CO for RRC2020 we planned to camp and stay in KOA cabins along the way. I lost some cargo area because of the Subaru conversion and this is what I came up with to transport sleeping bags, tent and camping gear and spare tire. The spare tire is from a Boxster. Almost totally un noticeable from inside of the car and no issues at any speed.
Pikes Peak 1UP USA bike rack that attaches to the receiver hitch. South Dakota KOA Cabin Estes Park CO KOA Cabin Unloading after 3500miles. Boxster spare tire The cross tube is cut from a Cessna airplane lift strut. Weighs 2.8 lbs. and mounts to the factory attach points. I 3-D printed a thin plastic gasket to protect the paint. Mounts with 6 M6 fasteners. This rear cross tube is a section cut from a lift strut from an Aeronca Champ airplane. This rear assembly weighs 12lbs. 1.25 receiver hitch with a 1UP USA receiver insert that tightens up to zero slack. As the screw on the end tightens it wedges the ball outward locking it in place and eliminating clearance. 914Rubber LED head lights Attached image(s) |
burton73 |
Sep 30 2022, 10:06 AM
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burton73 Group: Members Posts: 3,487 Joined: 2-January 07 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 7,414 Region Association: Southern California |
Hi Ross,
It would be helpful if you could post pictures front trunk, rear trunk, interior and other areas so we can tell how clean everything is. What is involved with putting the front bumper and such back to stock look. More pictures will help get your baby sold. Thanks Bob B |
76-914 |
Sep 30 2022, 11:33 PM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,489 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California |
I've seen ross' build and it is done RIGHT. The roof is a work of art and the paint looks great. I'm sure the car looks better when relieved of it's cargo pod but what a great way to travel xcountry in a 914 with luggage room to spare. GLWS Ross. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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