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post Jul 25 2005, 08:26 PM
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Anyone have ideas on sources for lightweight 914 doors that would allow stock door handles and windows to work? How much weight can be saved by going from 1974 to earlier doors?
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post Jul 25 2005, 08:29 PM
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Bontempi probably has some.
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post Jul 25 2005, 09:10 PM
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Have a couple of sets....you lose the impact bar only....don't know what it weighs.
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post Jul 25 2005, 09:18 PM
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On my DOT approved, highly precise bathroom scales:

Stripped early door (nothing, nothing and nothing) - 25 lbs
Complete late door (glass, inside panel, wing window, latches, etc) - 60 lbs

Don't early doors have different window mechanisms?
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post Jul 25 2005, 09:19 PM
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QUOTE (Cloudbuster @ Jul 25 2005, 08:18 PM)
Don't early doors have different window mechanisms?

Yep

There are some early doors (late 72...Mid '73?) that have the late winder hardware but no impact bar, hence "lightweight racer" doors.
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post Jul 25 2005, 09:20 PM
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I think a early door is 20lbs about and a late door is about 60lbs.


I picked both up to gauge them. Quite a difference indeed.
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post Jul 26 2005, 06:42 AM
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There is not that much differance in early vs late doors. I think this is a 914 myth. An COMPLETE early door weighs 45 pounds. I've weighed them myself.

There is a lot of differance between a stock complete late door and and a window-less early door. This is the weight savings route to take.

Or go with a f/g door skin.

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post Jul 26 2005, 09:49 AM
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If you want to keep the glass and keep it as a street car then I'm guessing your talking about 8-10 pounds max difference.

the door beam is a simple folded piece of sheet metal that is tacked in as a bar. Probably only weights 3 lbs for the bar itself.

Still probably worth the switch for an autox car or something...

The real weight savings is in removing the glass.
I got my metal doors to 17lbs with working outside door handles (and modified inside ones)

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post Jul 26 2005, 09:52 AM
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post Jul 26 2005, 10:02 AM
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Grant, I'm assuming you are keeping the glass is to stay in "FM", PCA class?

No glass moves you into "X" with the unlimited modifieds.
In "X", anything goes.

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post Jul 26 2005, 10:05 AM
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QUOTE (trekkor @ Jul 26 2005, 08:02 AM)
Grant, I'm assuming you are keeping the glass is to stay in "FM", PCA class?

No glass moves you into "X" with the unlimited modifieds.
In "X", anything goes.

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post Jul 26 2005, 10:40 AM
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There is about a 20lb difference in the two doors. Early doors empty and late doors empty weight about 25 and 45 respectively.
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post Jul 26 2005, 11:04 AM
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From the PCA rule book: Glass: The car must have full windows (glass or Plexiglas).

Windows don't have to be glass.
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post Jul 26 2005, 11:05 AM
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QUOTE (Brett W @ Jul 26 2005, 08:40 AM)
There is about a 20lb difference in the two doors. Early doors empty and late doors empty weight about 25 and 45 respectively.

I have both. I'll weigh them tonight. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)

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post Jul 26 2005, 11:10 AM
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And I the same.
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QUOTE (Randal @ Jul 26 2005, 09:04 AM)
From the PCA rule book: Glass: The car must have full windows (glass or Plexiglas).

Windows don't have to be glass.

exactly. although plexiglass would be crazy -- why do they write that? you want polycarbonate, obviously.
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post Jul 26 2005, 11:22 AM
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Available at TAP plastics
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post Jul 26 2005, 11:24 AM
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post Jul 26 2005, 11:26 AM
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I was going to ask if anyone had seen those snap-on canvas doors?

Camel looks great, on a black, or green car.


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post Jul 26 2005, 11:31 AM
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