So what’s the thinking on 915 gearbox kits for a/6 build these days |
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So what’s the thinking on 915 gearbox kits for a/6 build these days |
Tdskip |
Oct 7 2021, 12:21 PM
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I’ve had a chance to go through some very useful past discussions, but as always win a couple years has gone by it’s worthwhile to revisit this topic The latest thinking and experiences. Looks like there’s a trade off between buying a pre-packaged kit versus trying to roll it all yourself, while expensive having someone else have done the brain damage does have a certain appeal to it.
Any thoughts or coaching out there on this? I’m assuming if you go the route of a kit do you want to have the kit in hand when the gearbox servicing and flip is done, yes? Thanks! |
Tdskip |
Oct 7 2021, 12:29 PM
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Tdskip |
Oct 10 2021, 07:49 AM
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Is the Bug@5-Speed still the go to?
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mepstein |
Oct 10 2021, 08:03 AM
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rgalla9146 |
Oct 10 2021, 09:42 AM
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I'm in the process.
I have a Martin Bott (Bug@5speed) 916 set-up in hand for years now. I'm using an early mag case and mechanical speedo drive I refreshed the shafts, flipped the diff. and assembled it temporarily years ago. I don't have the factory tools for drag and backlash on the pinion. Rather than take any chances I recently sent that work to a friend who has the tools and experience. I should have it back by the end of the month. THEN .....I can finally install it behind the long anticipated 3.0 in my GT project. By the time this is over it'll be a very expensive item. That is with me buying the trans, doing the cleaning, buying all the parts, drilling and tapping for an internal shaft support, assembling it and fabricating shift linkage. Try finding a '72 911 shift tower. Or OEM shift knob. Not easy. My goal is for it to look and work as close to original as I can make it. Next spring. |
mepstein |
Oct 10 2021, 10:51 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,239 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I'm in the process. I have a Martin Bott (Bug@5speed) 916 set-up in hand for years now. I'm using an early mag case and mechanical speedo drive I refreshed the shafts, flipped the diff. and assembled it temporarily years ago. I don't have the factory tools for drag and backlash on the pinion. Rather than take any chances I recently sent that work to a friend who has the tools and experience. I should have it back by the end of the month. THEN .....I can finally install it behind the long anticipated 3.0 in my GT project. By the time this is over it'll be a very expensive item. That is with me buying the trans, doing the cleaning, buying all the parts, drilling and tapping for an internal shaft support, assembling it and fabricating shift linkage. Try finding a '72 911 shift tower. Or OEM shift knob. Not easy. My goal is for it to look and work as close to original as I can make it. Next spring. We just purchased the factory R&P tools. |
Tdskip |
Oct 10 2021, 03:42 PM
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First of all I hope everybody’s having a good weekend. Thank you for the responses.
I thought that I had seen Patrick motorsports offering these, but I think that cost was similar to the vendor in Germany, and it seems like the vendor in Germany is well regarded and has stood by their work. I’m expecting us to run about $10,000 all in, it seems like that’s close to where you’re going to be. |
Steve |
Oct 10 2021, 04:05 PM
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I’ve been running the Martin Bott kit for years. Unless a shop has built one before, I wouldn’t trust them. Two well known shops in so cal, couldn’t figure it out. I ended up driving my car to PMS and flew back, so they could work on it. The trans now shifts like it’s supposed too. I’m also running PMS shift linkage and a 911 rennshift. If your going to the WCR, I will be there with my car and you can go for a ride.
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Steve |
Oct 10 2021, 04:10 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,570 Joined: 14-June 03 From: Orange County, CA Member No.: 822 Region Association: Southern California |
PMS also sells the kit. I don’t know if it’s any cheaper buying it direct from Martin. Personally I would ship the trans and kit to PMS and let them build it or buy the kit from PMS. As mentioned wevo stopped selling there kit, so the 916 kit is the only option out there and Martins is the cheapest.
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Luke M |
Oct 10 2021, 05:28 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,369 Joined: 8-February 05 From: WNY Member No.: 3,574 Region Association: North East States |
I have a 84 815 trans with the Bott kit installed. I also had a Wavetrac diff installed while at it. I went back n forth with Steve on his Bott 915 trans. I then went with his recommendation to use PMS. PMS did all of the trans work and I also got all of their shift linkage. Not cheap by any means.
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...67624&st=40 |
930cabman |
Oct 10 2021, 05:39 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,000 Joined: 12-November 20 From: Buffalo Member No.: 24,877 Region Association: North East States |
Has anyone tried a G50?
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mepstein |
Oct 10 2021, 06:11 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,239 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
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sixnotfour |
Oct 10 2021, 06:27 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,412 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Just had CMS do a 915 ring and pinion setup..plus parts...and diff case...8K
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Tdskip |
Oct 10 2021, 06:31 PM
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You guys are great, really appreciate the coaching here. Looks like I’m going to road trip to PMS soon, at least I know where to find great pizza in Phoenix.
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9146BRUCE |
Oct 15 2021, 09:49 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 57 Joined: 16-April 07 From: Northridge Calif. Member No.: 7,670 Region Association: Southern California |
Hi Guys who is PMS and where are they located.
Thanks Bruce |
SO.O.C914er |
Oct 15 2021, 09:59 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,236 Joined: 18-July 16 From: Mission Viejo Ca Member No.: 20,199 Region Association: Southern California |
Patrick motor sports in Arizona top shelf work.
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Cairo94507 |
Oct 16 2021, 04:53 AM
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Michael Group: Members Posts: 9,714 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 9,712 Region Association: Northern California |
Yeah- James Patrick is the guy when it comes to 914s for sure. His shop is well known for custom hi-horsepower Porsches. I would love to take my 6 to him and have him do the 915 conversion. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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Beach914 |
Oct 16 2021, 07:45 AM
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speed metal army |
Oct 17 2021, 05:23 PM
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Waiting for the rain to stop... Group: Members Posts: 1,068 Joined: 4-September 10 From: PNW Member No.: 12,137 Region Association: Canada |
I have a flipped r&p 915.. no side shift conversion bits though.
For a smaller displacement engine say 2.7 and under is a 915 even necessary? |
sixnotfour |
Oct 17 2021, 05:42 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,412 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
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