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| roundtwo |
 Oct 15 2021, 04:01 PM
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Member  Group: Members Posts: 269 Joined: 9-February 20 From: Petaluma, CA Member No.: 23,905 Region Association: Central California 
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Hello
New to me 914 When engine cold, Starter barely turns over the engine. Symptoms that the battery is bad. Alternator good! I tested the battery which was fine and tried using a second brand new battery to swap out from my other 914 and the starter is still sluggish. Barely turns the engine over. When the engines hot it’s more likely to turn the engine over with more vigor. Both batteries start my other 914 fine. Do I just have a bad starter? Stumped.  |
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| Dustin |
Oct 15 2021, 05:01 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 111 Joined: 19-August 10 From: Woodland Hills, CA Member No.: 12,072 Region Association: None |
If I were you I would swap the starters in your cars.
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| 930cabman |
Oct 15 2021, 05:11 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,066 Joined: 12-November 20 From: Buffalo Member No.: 24,877 Region Association: North East States
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Great looking example. I would check the battery cables and most important the grounding points in the engine compartment AND the ground strap from the transmission to the body. Do the head lights dim when cranking?
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| bbrock |
Oct 15 2021, 05:56 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,269 Joined: 17-February 17 From: Montana Member No.: 20,845 Region Association: Rocky Mountains
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QUOTE(930cabman @ Oct 15 2021, 05:11 PM)  Great looking example. I would check the battery cables and most important the grounding points in the engine compartment AND the ground strap from the transmission to the body. Do the head lights dim when cranking? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) That's where I would start. Love Delphi Green! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif) |
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| windforfun |
Oct 16 2021, 02:17 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,791 Joined: 17-December 07 From: Blackhawk, CA Member No.: 8,476 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(bbrock @ Oct 15 2021, 04:56 PM) QUOTE(930cabman @ Oct 15 2021, 05:11 PM) Great looking example. I would check the battery cables and most important the grounding points in the engine compartment AND the ground strap from the transmission to the body. Do the head lights dim when cranking? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) That's where I would start. Love Delphi Green! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif) Beautiful car. Wiggle those cables & connectors. |
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| Dave_Darling |
Oct 16 2021, 04:22 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,986 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California
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If the starter actually cranks, then it is likely that the "trigger" signal coming from the ignition switch is OK.
I would look at the high-power circuit, in this case. It goes: Battery (+) post to battery cable. Battery cable to starter post. (This is the "hot" path.) Starter housing to transmission case. Transmission case to tranny ground strap. Tranny ground strap to chassis. Chassis to battery ground strap. Battery ground strap to battery (-) post. (This is the "ground" path.) Contamination or corrosion anywhere along that path, either side, will result in a slow-cranking starter. We have also seen cases where the trans ground strap fails, and the starter circuit goes to ground through the throttle cable. Which eventually welds itself into place. Oops. --DD |
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| bdstone914 |
Oct 16 2021, 05:02 PM
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bdstone914 Group: Members Posts: 4,522 Joined: 8-November 03 From: Riverside CA Member No.: 1,319 |
What is the engine and compression ratio? Check what Dave listed.if all that checks out ok i would consider a 911or a high torque starter. The 914 starter is .75 hp and the 911 is 1.25 hp.
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| roundtwo |
Oct 16 2021, 06:41 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 269 Joined: 9-February 20 From: Petaluma, CA Member No.: 23,905 Region Association: Central California
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Thanks all for the great advice. Will follow the ground paths as noted and then vet out if it’s actually the starter itself. I do have an extra starter laying around somewhere. There’s no obvious grounding issues I think I’ll try that swap.
Enjoying the Delphi green more each day. |
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| roundtwo |
Oct 16 2021, 06:43 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 269 Joined: 9-February 20 From: Petaluma, CA Member No.: 23,905 Region Association: Central California
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QUOTE(bdstone914 @ Oct 16 2021, 04:02 PM) What is the engine and compression ratio? Check what Dave listed.if all that checks out ok i would consider a 911or a high torque starter. The 914 starter is .75 hp and the 911 is 1.25 hp. It’s a 1973 2.0 l. Pretty sure it’s stock. Will check the major grounds. Thanks |
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