 My 2.0 motor needs to be resealed/rebuilt, Need recos pls |
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| DC_neun_vierzehn |
 Nov 16 2021, 01:19 PM
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Member  Group: Members Posts: 376 Joined: 16-November 20 From: Delaware Shore Member No.: 24,893 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region 
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Looking for recommendations.
The motor on my matching numbers '73 2.0 is leaking in multiple places. The shop I take it to for servicing is recommending a rebuild (to reseal it). The motor runs strong - no issues, but they are telling me all the leaks will eventually cause issues (on top of making my garage floor look nasty. The shop cannot do the rebuild until Jan (too backed up) and honestly, I would like to take it (or send it) to someone who specializes in 914 rebuilds. I'm located in Northern Virginia (just over the bridge from D.C.). Thanks in advance for your recommendations. |
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| flipb |
Nov 16 2021, 01:27 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,717 Joined: 2-September 09 From: Fairfax, VA Member No.: 10,752 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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My 2.0 was rebuilt to 2056 specs by Stan & Kevin Fox at RPM Racing in Newington. They clearly had a lot more experience with flat-6 builds and there were some things they struggled with, but the work quality was generally very good.
Nowadays I take the car to Ray at AutoSportSystems Group (ASG) in Merrifield. I presume they'd be an expensive shop for a rebuild but the work would be top-notch. Honestly, if I were doing it over, I might poke around the VW scene. Paul's VW shop on 236 in Annandale has always been an object of curiosity to me; don't have any firsthand experience. DM me if you want more details. |
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| Shivers |
Nov 16 2021, 02:27 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2,327 Joined: 19-October 20 From: La Quinta, CA Member No.: 24,781 Region Association: Southern California |
If it runs ok just have it resealed
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| brant |
Nov 16 2021, 02:44 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,603 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains 
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just re seal it yourself...
might take a weekend.. but if the leakdown is good... its not an expensive job to buy the seals. |
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| DRPHIL914 |
Nov 17 2021, 01:56 PM
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Dr. Phil Group: Members Posts: 5,758 Joined: 9-December 09 From: Bluffton, SC Member No.: 11,106 Region Association: South East States
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QUOTE(DC_neun_vierzehn @ Nov 16 2021, 02:19 PM)  Looking for recommendations. The motor on my matching numbers '73 2.0 is leaking in multiple places. The shop I take it to for servicing is recommending a rebuild (to reseal it). The motor runs strong - no issues, but they are telling me all the leaks will eventually cause issues (on top of making my garage floor look nasty. The shop cannot do the rebuild until Jan (too backed up) and honestly, I would like to take it (or send it) to someone who specializes in 914 rebuilds. I'm located in Northern Virginia (just over the bridge from D.C.). Thanks in advance for your recommendations. QUOTE(brant @ Nov 16 2021, 03:44 PM) just re seal it yourself... might take a weekend.. but if the leakdown is good... its not an expensive job to buy the seals. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) I did that 3-4 years ago when the motor was out for the body and paint work, its not hard or expensive. i assume you are referring to the front and rear main seals the oil cooler seals and the push rod tube seals, and maybe the oil cooler seals. Since i did that one i still don't have any leaks from that motor- it did come out due to dropped valve seat in May and had the heads rebuilt etc this summer, but no leaks. |
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| 930cabman |
Nov 18 2021, 06:01 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,998 Joined: 12-November 20 From: Buffalo Member No.: 24,877 Region Association: North East States
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I am in the same boat. Checked leakdown #'s last week, 5% was the highest. Too bad she is a gusher
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| Van B |
Nov 18 2021, 07:32 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,582 Joined: 20-October 21 From: Maryland Member No.: 26,011 Region Association: None
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I don't have room to deal with an engine out service either so, I understand your issue. I don't know anything about these folks, but I recently found them on Google:
Classic Porsche Restoration, LLC 9329 Ocean Gateway, Easton, MD 21601 (410) 822-8322 https://g.co/kgs/kXeXKM It's a little bit of a hike, but as you know, there aren't a lot of options in DMV town |
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| saigon71 |
Nov 18 2021, 07:39 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,995 Joined: 1-June 09 From: Dillsburg, PA Member No.: 10,428 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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Steve Limbert @ Aircooled Racing in Southern PA. 717-432-4116.
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| DC_neun_vierzehn |
Nov 18 2021, 06:02 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 376 Joined: 16-November 20 From: Delaware Shore Member No.: 24,893 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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QUOTE(brant @ Nov 16 2021, 03:44 PM) just re seal it yourself... might take a weekend.. but if the leakdown is good... its not an expensive job to buy the seals. Unfortunately, I don't have the space (lack a proper garage for work),no experience (would be learning from ground zero), and no time (I have a newborn). So while it truly sounds fun to tackle ... I couldn't make it happen. |
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| DC_neun_vierzehn |
Nov 18 2021, 06:03 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 376 Joined: 16-November 20 From: Delaware Shore Member No.: 24,893 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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QUOTE(flipb @ Nov 16 2021, 02:27 PM) My 2.0 was rebuilt to 2056 specs by Stan & Kevin Fox at RPM Racing in Newington. They clearly had a lot more experience with flat-6 builds and there were some things they struggled with, but the work quality was generally very good. Nowadays I take the car to Ray at AutoSportSystems Group (ASG) in Merrifield. I presume they'd be an expensive shop for a rebuild but the work would be top-notch. Honestly, if I were doing it over, I might poke around the VW scene. Paul's VW shop on 236 in Annandale has always been an object of curiosity to me; don't have any firsthand experience. DM me if you want more details. Sounds like I should pass on RPM. I'll look into ASG and Pauls. Thanks! |
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| DC_neun_vierzehn |
Nov 18 2021, 06:05 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 376 Joined: 16-November 20 From: Delaware Shore Member No.: 24,893 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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QUOTE(Van B @ Nov 18 2021, 08:32 AM) I don't have room to deal with an engine out service either so, I understand your issue. I don't know anything about these folks, but I recently found them on Google: Classic Porsche Restoration, LLC 9329 Ocean Gateway, Easton, MD 21601 (410) 822-8322 https://g.co/kgs/kXeXKM It's a little bit of a hike, but as you know, there aren't a lot of options in DMV town I've heard good things about them, but also know they are backed-up, through (so a little on the slow side in a good way), and not cheap. But I'm going to look into them since I travel from NoVa to the shore in DE regularly. Thanks! |
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| DC_neun_vierzehn |
Nov 18 2021, 06:06 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 376 Joined: 16-November 20 From: Delaware Shore Member No.: 24,893 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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QUOTE(saigon71 @ Nov 18 2021, 08:39 AM) Steve Limbert @ Aircooled Racing in Southern PA. 717-432-4116. I'll give Steve a call. Thanks! |
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| r_towle |
Nov 18 2021, 09:39 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,560 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States
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Consider this.
Test the leak down first. If it’s ok, it’s simple and less than a day to remove and replace the following. Push rod tube seals Oil cooler seals Oil sump plate gaskets Valve cover gaskets (have them adjust the valves too) Oil pressure sensor That covers the most likely suspects of leaks I ordered up this kit of parts from 914rubber That may stop all the major leaks |
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| Van B |
Nov 18 2021, 10:06 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,582 Joined: 20-October 21 From: Maryland Member No.: 26,011 Region Association: None
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QUOTE(flipb @ Nov 16 2021, 03:27 PM) My 2.0 was rebuilt to 2056 specs by Stan & Kevin Fox at RPM Racing in Newington. They clearly had a lot more experience with flat-6 builds and there were some things they struggled with, but the work quality was generally very good. Nowadays I take the car to Ray at AutoSportSystems Group (ASG) in Merrifield. I presume they'd be an expensive shop for a rebuild but the work would be top-notch. Honestly, if I were doing it over, I might poke around the VW scene. Paul's VW shop on 236 in Annandale has always been an object of curiosity to me; don't have any firsthand experience. DM me if you want more details. I’ve been looking on google maps and I don’t see any VW shop listed on 236? |
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| flipb |
Nov 19 2021, 07:39 AM
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QUOTE(Van B @ Nov 19 2021, 12:06 AM) QUOTE(flipb @ Nov 16 2021, 03:27 PM) My 2.0 was rebuilt to 2056 specs by Stan & Kevin Fox at RPM Racing in Newington. They clearly had a lot more experience with flat-6 builds and there were some things they struggled with, but the work quality was generally very good. Nowadays I take the car to Ray at AutoSportSystems Group (ASG) in Merrifield. I presume they'd be an expensive shop for a rebuild but the work would be top-notch. Honestly, if I were doing it over, I might poke around the VW scene. Paul's VW shop on 236 in Annandale has always been an object of curiosity to me; don't have any firsthand experience. DM me if you want more details. I’ve been looking on google maps and I don’t see any VW shop listed on 236? They don't seem to have much of a web presence, and maybe they've closed up. But this is where I've driven past it many times -- always try to sneak a peek of interesting cars in the lot. There are some results if you Google Paul's Auto Repair Annandale. |
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| Van B |
Nov 19 2021, 07:52 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,582 Joined: 20-October 21 From: Maryland Member No.: 26,011 Region Association: None
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This Paul’s Auto Repair:
https://www.yelp.com/biz/pauls-auto-repair-annandale Shows up as a “Tobacco Hut” on google maps: Tobacco hut Annandale https://goo.gl/maps/bKvTt8eEA9SiA7TZ9 |
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| Shivers |
Nov 19 2021, 07:56 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2,327 Joined: 19-October 20 From: La Quinta, CA Member No.: 24,781 Region Association: Southern California |
QUOTE(DC_neun_vierzehn @ Nov 18 2021, 04:02 PM) QUOTE(brant @ Nov 16 2021, 03:44 PM) just re seal it yourself... might take a weekend.. but if the leakdown is good... its not an expensive job to buy the seals. Unfortunately, I don't have the space (lack a proper garage for work),no experience (would be learning from ground zero), and no time (I have a newborn). So while it truly sounds fun to tackle ... I couldn't make it happen. I built this engine in my apartment living room, I hung drop cloths to make a clean room next to my drafting table that I used as a work bench. I was a newlywed. God bless my Wife (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)  |
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| 930cabman |
Nov 19 2021, 08:23 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,998 Joined: 12-November 20 From: Buffalo Member No.: 24,877 Region Association: North East States
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QUOTE(Shivers @ Nov 19 2021, 08:56 AM) QUOTE(DC_neun_vierzehn @ Nov 18 2021, 04:02 PM) QUOTE(brant @ Nov 16 2021, 03:44 PM) just re seal it yourself... might take a weekend.. but if the leakdown is good... its not an expensive job to buy the seals. Unfortunately, I don't have the space (lack a proper garage for work),no experience (would be learning from ground zero), and no time (I have a newborn). So while it truly sounds fun to tackle ... I couldn't make it happen. I built this engine in my apartment living room, I hung drop cloths to make a clean room next to my drafting table that I used as a work bench. I was a newlywed. God bless my Wife (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) +1 with the engine/living room/wife combination. Can you still have the same wife? |
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| Shivers |
Nov 19 2021, 08:51 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2,327 Joined: 19-October 20 From: La Quinta, CA Member No.: 24,781 Region Association: Southern California |
QUOTE(930cabman @ Nov 19 2021, 06:23 AM) QUOTE(Shivers @ Nov 19 2021, 08:56 AM) QUOTE(DC_neun_vierzehn @ Nov 18 2021, 04:02 PM) QUOTE(brant @ Nov 16 2021, 03:44 PM) just re seal it yourself... might take a weekend.. but if the leakdown is good... its not an expensive job to buy the seals. Unfortunately, I don't have the space (lack a proper garage for work),no experience (would be learning from ground zero), and no time (I have a newborn). So while it truly sounds fun to tackle ... I couldn't make it happen. I built this engine in my apartment living room, I hung drop cloths to make a clean room next to my drafting table that I used as a work bench. I was a newlywed. God bless my Wife (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) +1 with the engine/living room/wife combination. Can you still have the same wife? Same one. She is on board for this rebuild of our car. Though she makes me pace myself now a days. |
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| Van B |
Nov 19 2021, 10:40 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,582 Joined: 20-October 21 From: Maryland Member No.: 26,011 Region Association: None
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Talk about a thread hijack lol... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/slap.gif)
To the OP, please let me know how this search develops for you. I would definitely like to have a "local" shop to lean on as needed. Van |
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