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> Members with 74 1.8, information needed for history of cars
wonkipop
post Nov 25 2021, 04:35 PM
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@StarBear & @wonkipop want to hear from members who own 1974 1.8s.
to assist with a topic in originality section of the website.

Cars need to be reasonably original with L jet fuel injection system intact.

If you have the time and can help us with some information it would be great.

information.

1. Vin Date - month and year (no need to post vin numbers if you don't want to). thats the date on the driver door sticker.

2. Karmann plate #. or if you have already done the maths, the day and week of the year the car began production.

3. Image of engine bay emission sticker (lhs above the air cleaner - white with red letters). sticker should say whether it is an EC-A or an EC-B engine and whether it is california + EPA or only EPA.

4. image of engine tune up sticker.
this is the small white sticker that is on LHS engine tin just below fan shroud.
most of them are gone by now, but some engines still have them.

5. image of the throttle body. image of the distributor.
we are looking at the vacuum hose set up between the distributor and the throttle body.

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post Nov 25 2021, 05:46 PM
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Especially if your 1.8L was built in late 73 or the earlier part of 74 - it seems like the setups varied quite a bit from month-to-month during this period for MY 74. We're trying to make sense of the varied information we're seeing; this "should" help us diagnose weird startup/running/decel conditions being experienced. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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post Nov 25 2021, 08:55 PM
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Would be helpful to add some samples of these labels to this thread.
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post Nov 25 2021, 10:03 PM
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emission sticker.

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tune up sticker

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throttle body.
(see if green retard hose and grey advance hose are connected and where).

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distributor
(see if green retard hose and grey advance are connected).

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post Nov 26 2021, 02:19 AM
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You probably know this already: Only US 1.8l 914´s had the L-Jetronic. European 1.8l´s where equipped with Solex 40PDSIT carburators, the only 914´s without a fuel injection. So the 1.8´s are really special in some way. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)
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post Nov 26 2021, 03:34 AM
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QUOTE(Arno914 @ Nov 26 2021, 02:19 AM) *

You probably know this already: Only US 1.8l 914´s had the L-Jetronic. European 1.8l´s where equipped with Solex 40PDSIT carburators, the only 914´s without a fuel injection. So the 1.8´s are really special in some way. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)


yep

but the ANO engines are not of interest. interesting as they are.

just the info in this thread about the L jets. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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post Nov 26 2021, 12:05 PM
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Jeff, good idea for posting an example. It gave me good intel on where to focus my efforts on gently removing the undercoating to reveal the sticker.

Gents, here’s my contribution:


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post Nov 26 2021, 03:43 PM
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@Van B

thanks mate. gold. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

(you might have worked it out already - the karmann # = started build on monday 10th dec and was the fifth car for the day - 12 days after StarBears.)





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post Nov 26 2021, 05:15 PM
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I have not worked that out. Would you mind breaking that down for me?!
Useless info, but still very cool lol!
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post Nov 26 2021, 05:40 PM
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QUOTE(Van B @ Nov 26 2021, 05:15 PM) *

I have not worked that out. Would you mind breaking that down for me?!
Useless info, but still very cool lol!


5019505

50 = 50th week of calendar year (1973)
1 = day of week. = monday.
9 = karmann factory at osnabruck (spelling?)
5 = how they write zero (germans? don't ask), if its a 6 means they went over 100 for the day.
05 = fifth car of the day.

if i have that wrong @SirAndy will put it right.

nice and early in the day when they started to weld the body together.
before they went off to the pub at lunchtime. mine was done in the danger period,
can't work out if it was before lunch or right after lunch. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif)

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post Nov 26 2021, 05:57 PM
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QUOTE(wonkipop @ Nov 25 2021, 03:35 PM) *

@StarBear & @wonkipop want to hear from members who own 1974 1.8s.
to assist with a topic in originality section of the website.

Cars need to be reasonably original with L jet fuel injection system intact.

If you have the time and can help us with some information it would be great.

information.

1. Vin Date - month and year (no need to post vin numbers if you don't want to). thats the date on the driver door sticker.

2. Karmann plate #. or if you have already done the maths, the day and week of the year the car began production.

3. Image of engine bay emission sticker (lhs above the air cleaner - white with red letters). sticker should say whether it is an EC-A or an EC-B engine and whether it is california + EPA or only EPA.

4. image of engine tune up sticker.
this is the small white sticker that is on LHS engine tin just below fan shroud.
most of them are gone by now, but some engines still have them.

5. image of the throttle body. image of the distributor.
we are looking at the vacuum hose set up between the distributor and the throttle body.

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ok you asked. I was out in the shop today anyway working on my very original 74 1.8l
thanks
randy
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post Nov 26 2021, 06:00 PM
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@RRietman

thanks mate. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)


EDIT.

just to fill in a bit on why we are after this.

yours stacks up against our EC-B stickered cars.
has a vacuum retard and advance function on dist fully hooked up to throttle body.
that set up accords with the late Cap'n Krusty take on all L jets.

however - there is very definitely an EC-A stickered car. one at least.
and that likely has a set up @ClayPerrine says was the L jet set up.
only the vacuum retard function is hooked up.
dr. 914 says that set up kicked in start of jan 74.

but there is defintely EC-Bs being produced right through jan 74 at minimum.
i have one. its end of jan 74.

it will be real gold when someone throws up a EC-A stickered car with an intact setup.

also there is an EC-B sticker that says its only EPA approved. but we don't know the setup.

a few members out there with those setups might start to shine light on the mysteries of the 1.8.
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post Nov 26 2021, 06:09 PM
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QUOTE(wonkipop @ Nov 26 2021, 07:00 PM) *

2 weeks prior to mine. I’m sure we’ll gather an EC-A car soon.
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QUOTE(StarBear @ Nov 26 2021, 06:09 PM) *

QUOTE(wonkipop @ Nov 26 2021, 07:00 PM) *

2 weeks prior to mine. I’m sure we’ll gather an EC-A car soon.


and in the window for the fume can in the frunk?

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- sorry to bug you. where is the charcoal cannister in your car?
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post Nov 26 2021, 07:37 PM
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I have one of these but it is just a tub, nothing on it at all. Going to Frankenteener it with my 72'. Sorry I can't help.

Hey dude, I did this chop a few years back for a competition at Freakingnews.com. I was to do an Australian road sign. Did I nail it?

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QUOTE(Shivers @ Nov 26 2021, 07:37 PM) *

I have one of these but it is just a tub, nothing on it at all. Going to Frankenteener it with my 72'. Sorry I can't help.


an EC-A?

even VIN and Karmann number would be handy if you have it?
puts a date on the car.

if the sticker is there, does it say California and EPA approved or just EPA approved.

thanks for the reply.

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QUOTE(Shivers @ Nov 26 2021, 07:37 PM) *

I have one of these but it is just a tub, nothing on it at all. Going to Frankenteener it with my 72'. Sorry I can't help.

Hey dude, I did this chop a few years back for a competition at Freakingnews.com. I was to do an Australian road sign. Did I nail it?

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I registered the VIN here under the name So.Cal.914 The rest was stripped off the tub by the body shop I bought the tub from. The tub is coming from my brothers where it sits in a storage container, this winter. So I can't go out and look to make it easier.
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QUOTE(wonkipop @ Nov 26 2021, 05:48 PM) *

QUOTE(Shivers @ Nov 26 2021, 07:37 PM) *

I have one of these but it is just a tub, nothing on it at all. Going to Frankenteener it with my 72'. Sorry I can't help.

Hey dude, I did this chop a few years back for a competition at Freakingnews.com. I was to do an Australian road sign. Did I nail it?

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you left off venomous politicians.


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QUOTE(wonkipop @ Nov 26 2021, 07:48 PM) *

QUOTE(Shivers @ Nov 26 2021, 07:37 PM) *

I have one of these but it is just a tub, nothing on it at all. Going to Frankenteener it with my 72'. Sorry I can't help.

Hey dude, I did this chop a few years back for a competition at Freakingnews.com. I was to do an Australian road sign. Did I nail it?

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you left off venomous politicians.



You forgot the drop bears. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)



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