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[jonferns]

Here is another data point

[jonferns]

And the rest (wouldn't let me attach to previous post)

[wonkipop]

@jonferns

thats a sweet looking car you have there sir. and an EC-A. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

i see something interesting.
am i looking at it correctly - does the retard port on the throttle body not have a hose connected to the retard side of the distributor?

do you know which state your car was delivered and sold new.

thanks for contributing.

[jonferns]

@wonkipop

There is no retard port on the throttle body. I will have to go back out and check the layout of the hoses from the distributor.

Car was delivered and sold new in California

[wonkipop]

All this sort of explains the various tinkering with setups; they were still experimenting. No rationalization for that yellow one from Ohio….

yes - it seems not rational @StarBear .

i suppose nothing stopping a cal. car being sold in the 49 states.
the other way round with a EC-B would have been problemtatic given CARB documentation?

by the way i worked out a tighter time period for the change over to engine bay charcoal cans. it happens sometime in the 5 days before your car was made.

this has been an interesting exercise so far.
i'm glad mr. b asked the question.

[wonkipop]

@wonkipop

There is no retard port on the throttle body. I will have to go back out and check the layout of the hoses from the distributor.

Car was delivered and sold new in California

thanks mate.

i can see the retard line going off somewhere.
i'm guessing its been maybe plumbed with a T into the decel valve line?

its interesting because it maybe has the same plumbing set up as @L-Jet914 car.
his EC-A was sold new in california too.

[wonkipop]

@jonferns .

so your throttle body is one of these?

[wonkipop]

@TRS63 .

calling antoine.
forgot to ask, you don't happen to know where your car might have been sold new?
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[Van B]

All this sort of explains the various tinkering with setups; they were still experimenting. No rationalization for that yellow one from Ohio….

That car looks unbelievably original and clean. Kinda crazy really.

[wonkipop]

All this sort of explains the various tinkering with setups; they were still experimenting. No rationalization for that yellow one from Ohio….

That car looks unbelievably original and clean. Kinda crazy really.

it is pretty clean and original isn't it.
it has had a repaint when you look close at photos.
but its pretty good.
wonder if a member grabbed it.

they are still out there.
which astonishes me!
i found this one in my shed a couple of years ago.
a stoopid old geezer had forgotten it was there. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)






StarBear takes the cake but.
he has had his since new!
completely astonishing.
shows you how much people liked these cars.

the green one would have been an old geezer never going to part with it?
not while they were alive anyway!

[wonkipop]

@Van B.
if you want to look at all the photos of that green car -

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1974-porsche-914-2/

the sale was back in 2016.
someone has transferred all the info on Vin register here already.
but no members name to it.

[Van B]

Utterly fantastic example!

[L-Jet914]

Something I found interesting in some of the posts, the tension spring that connects to the throttle is connected to the rear engine tin by the transmission on some of these cars. Whereas mine is connected to the middle of the intake plenum. Weird. Also interesting to see an EC-A with no vacuum retard port on the throttle body housing.

[wonkipop]

Something I found interesting in some of the posts, the tension spring that connects to the throttle is connected to the rear engine tin by the transmission on some of these cars. Whereas mine is connected to the middle of the intake plenum. Weird. Also interesting to see an EC-A with no vacuum retard port on the throttle body housing.

i feel pretty sure that is because the TB has been replaced.
my car is 45K+ miles (real mileage and i am ashamed of myself i let it sit for so long) - the throttle body is just starting to get sticky.
i have to kick it off before i start it after leaving it a week.
no problem once driving, but its the tell tale sign mine is finally catching the disease.
i think letting it sit it for the time it did might have formed a slight corrosion ridge too.

the cars suffered from this relatively quickly reading back over some threads here.
so a lot of throttle bodies would have been replaced somewhere between 50K and a 100K miles? i even read reports of this happening on relatively new cars back in the day.

i believe that throttle body without a retard port is from another VW and was a cure for the problem. just replace the TB. a member here now rebuilds them very nicely if you need it done. back in the day mechanics and dealers would not have had to give it a second thought i now realise. just go find a source of manifold vacuum off the plenum and hook that to the distributor if you had a replacement TB that was not quite right. its less of a mystery to me after this thread.

as to the spring. i think off the rear engine tin is the original way for a 914 TB. but maybe if the TB is from another VW you have to reverse the spring. given the engine is the other way around in a rear engine VW. and the cable direction coming through from car?

without seeing one of those TBs in the flesh its hard to know (not many L-Jets in my neck of the woods), but thats my hunch.

[Van B]

If the plate and body start to dovetail and stick closed, I would say sending it out to have it bored out and a larger plate fitted makes more sense at this point in the life cycle of these cars. Replacing with an almost right VW part was probably the go too solution 20yrs ago when these cars weren’t worth much.

[wonkipop]

If the plate and body start to dovetail and stick closed, I would say sending it out to have it bored out and a larger plate fitted makes more sense at this point in the life cycle of these cars. Replacing with an almost right VW part was probably the go too solution 20yrs ago when these cars weren’t worth much.

yes, i'm going to pull it out at xmas time and take a close look.
might be a job for mr. whip while we are all still around?

i will give him instructions not to paint it or refinish it externally but.

its nice to be around a bunch of folks finally a bit excited about the "lowly" 1.8.
i gave up 30 years ago and kept to myself here because everyone sneered at it.
didn't have a 6. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ar15.gif) and was the "worst" of the 4s. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif)
but maybe its time has come for what it is.

[Van B]

Snobbery in a 914 forum proves that Porsche owners are all subject to the same temptation. I’ve only ever owned the most disparaged Porsche's and they’ve all been fantastic. I only wish my 944 has not been murdered by a Buick all those years ago. I was up to 217,000mi on the original engine in that car when it got hit.

[wonkipop]

Something I found interesting in some of the posts, the tension spring that connects to the throttle is connected to the rear engine tin by the transmission on some of these cars. Whereas mine is connected to the middle of the intake plenum. Weird. Also interesting to see an EC-A with no vacuum retard port on the throttle body housing.

ok @L-Jet914 i took a look at your spring set up in your photos this morning.

could not find anyone else in photos in thread who had the spring reversed and connected to the plenum like yours.
your throttle body is the same as all of ours in terms of its top set up.
i think you need to take a look at it. the spring is there in case your throttle jambs or its main wound spring screws up and your throttle sticks wide open. its the failsafe that is meant to pull the throttle closed. the way its hooked up i think its going to do nothing?

what might have happened is someone along the way, familiar with VW rear engined set ups has, (out of habit?), hooked it up the rear engined way. which works when the throttle cable is coming through from the opposite direction. they have not thought it through properly?

i've attached an illustration from the factory manual.
i've attached a photo of a 412 engine bay where you can see how attaching the spring to the plenum would make sense for the rear engined car - but not yours?

i'm not there to see it in the flesh, but i blew up the photos and i see nothing different about your throttle body that shows its any different to ours in the top assembly, wound spring catches etc.

[wonkipop]

Snobbery in a 914 forum proves that Porsche owners are all subject to the same temptation. I’ve only ever owned the most disparaged Porsche's and they’ve all been fantastic. I only wish my 944 has not been murdered by a Buick all those years ago. I was up to 217,000mi on the original engine in that car when it got hit.

by "here" - meant the real "here" - australia.
thirty years ago it was all that NARP stuff.
so i kept to myself.


very good motors in 944s.

always fancied a 924S myself. rare car in aus that never officially came here.
few private imports from UK float around and seem to change hands for good $.
never driven a 44 but have driven a 24 at high speed cruise in western australia 30 years ago. fantastic at high speed (talking sustained 90 - 105mph for long stretches on the way up to geraldton from perth. lot more planted than a 14 at those speeds. 14 needs the nose spoiler for that stuff. i don't do that any more of course, its getting dicey here if you get pinged at that velocity by the rozzers.

when i say i keep to myself.
i hang out with another guy who keeps to himself in his beater speedster.
a scary ride in the passenger seat. i look down a lot - .......



he's got a few other beaters lying around in the workshop.
you have to get strapped in and have a fire suit and a race track for this one.
i'd need a few drinks to get in the drinkers seat with him driving.
so far i have been spared as its refused to run properly the couple of times its been released from prison when i've been around.





- back to the wheezy but fun smog engines.

[wonkipop]

another one dug out of back pages of internet and Vin data on this site.
formerly of AA collection.
2/74. Vin 4742914068.
(one vin # before another car with K# 0659532 = build inception date 8th Feb 74).

has two hose tune up sticker.
images show vacuum advance line connected to TB.
matches other EC-B cars here. likely EC-B
emission sticker not visible in documentation available.
noted to be a very original 10,000 m car.
info on state where sold new not available.
but car was in Atlanta for a long time.