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> Another stupid d-jet question:, Related to a new 2.1 tune: defining terms- what constitutes "part-load vs full-load" and other mysteries
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post Nov 29 2021, 08:06 AM
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calling all d-jet masters !

OK so yes, ive read Anders etc and maybe missed it along the way, but
how or what constitutes a part-load condition?

I am trying to get my d-jet MPS dialed in on the 2.1 build. and it had been running really well, but just a tad lean still, so after going back and reverifying my timing and other settings, checking plugs aftera 750 mile trip, its really close and realizing i was probably a bit low on the fuel pressure i made that correction and then set out to do some local highway driving to test it out, and really felt good, but maybe a bit rich at low end, idle and what i was thinking would be part-load.

BUT i think i over corrected on the MPS and now i went from being in the 12-12.5 range at idle and also cruising at 3000-3400rpm, i now am running light at about 14 on that mid-range cruising. it is good on WOT so i dont want to mess with that(full load stop) .

i should have left well enough alone because i will probably be a bit heavy at idle and low end with this motor, due to a more performance minded cam profile etc.

point is, what is part-load? if i am reading my AFR meter , lets say at 3000rpm- 3400rpm and cruising on the flat, that would be part- load condition correct? so i dont want to make it more rich at cruise or on WOT, so how can i isolate the mid range or par-load to enrich it with out messing anything else up. i already messed this up trying to just lean it out slighty and over corrected.

if i adjust the inner screw by itself it changes both part and full load.
the outer screw in will richen part load i believe lean out full- load.
the Anders chart doesnt really address it.
- also i feel i cant really get idle right, it seems too rich but that might be the way the motor will be, not sure.

the MPS is a rebuilt one with Tangerine kit and adjustor screws, so easy to access and adjust using the Tangerine tools.

I may be at the point of just going dual webber with 44 IDF's, and forsaking the d-jet - OR a more modern programable EFI...... i just dont think i am getting the most power out of this motor that i should or would with better air intake and A/F mix.
intake is somewhat restricted on a stock d-jet and the injectors can only give you so much fuel. i did see somewhere anders wrote that the stock set up could support a build up to 2270 even with the proper changes( not sure what that means either),

anyway first question is - part load definition. then how to proceed to get this mid-range or par-load adjusted into a better mix with out making idle even more rich(or WOT either)

Thanks for the help.

Phil

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DRPHIL914   Another stupid d-jet question:   Nov 29 2021, 08:06 AM
BeatNavy   Phil, a couple of thoughts from me. @Frank S , ...   Nov 29 2021, 08:42 AM
emerygt350   same boat here but with a stock 2.0. When we fini...   Nov 29 2021, 10:19 AM
DRPHIL914   i do appreciate the input. and i can post a few pi...   Nov 29 2021, 10:48 AM
914_teener   calling all d-jet masters ! OK so yes, ive r...   Nov 29 2021, 11:08 AM
DRPHIL914   here are 2 plugs, this was before input them back...   Nov 29 2021, 11:16 AM
emerygt350   Those look good to me. I just did a deep dive int...   Nov 29 2021, 11:24 AM
DRPHIL914   Those look good to me. I just did a deep dive in...   Nov 29 2021, 12:45 PM
emerygt350   stock ignition?   Nov 29 2021, 01:06 PM
DRPHIL914   stock ignition? 123ignition distributor but st...   Nov 29 2021, 01:13 PM
emerygt350   stock ignition? 123ignition distributor but s...   Nov 29 2021, 03:15 PM
DRPHIL914   [quote name='DRPHIL914' post='2963462' date='Nov ...   Nov 29 2021, 08:03 PM
adolimpio   Here's a point of reference for what it's ...   Nov 29 2021, 08:53 PM
DRPHIL914   @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showu...   Nov 30 2021, 08:47 AM
emerygt350   I have an LCR and as others have said, your mileag...   Nov 30 2021, 10:16 AM
adolimpio   I should have mentioned that my compression is 8.2...   Nov 30 2021, 09:12 PM
914_teener   Here's a point of reference for what it's...   Dec 1 2021, 12:49 PM
emerygt350   Just put the AFR on mine and did some tuning. Got...   Dec 1 2021, 02:34 PM
DRPHIL914   Here's a point of reference for what it...   Dec 2 2021, 08:17 AM
914_teener   [quote name='914_teener' post='2963964' date='Dec...   Dec 2 2021, 07:32 PM
rjames   That seems a lot leaner than what I've heard...   Nov 30 2021, 12:29 AM
emerygt350   That seems a lot leaner than what I've hear...   Nov 30 2021, 07:56 AM
emerygt350   Once the AFR is in I can see how that sign wave...   Nov 30 2021, 08:03 AM
DRPHIL914   That seems a lot leaner than what I've hea...   Nov 30 2021, 08:38 AM
BeatNavy   :agree: with this and with Rob's ( @914_Teene...   Dec 1 2021, 06:55 AM
DRPHIL914   :agree: with this and with Rob's ( [b]@[url=...   Dec 2 2021, 08:47 AM
emerygt350   I bet you are a bit low on your timing. Have you ...   Dec 2 2021, 09:09 AM
DRPHIL914   I bet you are a bit low on your timing. Have you...   Dec 2 2021, 02:29 PM
BeatNavy   one other factor thats going to effect that is th...   Dec 2 2021, 03:03 PM
JamesM   one other factor thats going to effect that is t...   Dec 2 2021, 04:49 PM
emerygt350   As I have zeroed in on good mixtures across partia...   Dec 2 2021, 04:20 PM


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