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> 1974 914 1.8, the mystery of the EC-A and EC-B
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post Jun 22 2024, 04:48 PM
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QUOTE(StarBear @ Jun 22 2024, 12:07 PM) *

QUOTE(davep @ Jun 22 2024, 01:23 PM) *

I would add 914World user name of owner, engine & transmission serial #'s, interior color & seat insert type. We could add a list of paint codes and interior codes as an addendum to the form. Door glass type (Delodur -0 or -F).
Karmann body # stamped into right corner of rear trunk, or tag in front trunk.
I don't think we should limit this to the 1.8 engine cars. We could have a universal form or a set of forms for different cars. Listing of options would be a nice addition. We could add a list so that just codes can be entered to save space and add clarity. Optionally, an email address would be useful for contact purposes should we want to confirm something. A fillable PDF form would be useful so that data can be entered by computer for clarity.

Great suggestions! Will work on it.
I used to know how to do fillable Word docs converted to pdf; don’t have Acrobat to make forms directly.


i can convert it to a pdf if you send the word doc to me.
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post Jul 23 2024, 07:30 AM
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Saw this “610” tin in a 1.8. What does that denote? Don’t recall seeing this number before. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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post Jul 23 2024, 04:36 PM
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@wonkipop
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Saw this “610” tin in a 1.8. What does that denote? Don’t recall seeing this number before. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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610 is an EA 1.7 engine from 1972-73.
(49 states engine - calif 1.7 from 73 was an EB and was marked 613).
i would say that is not an original 1.8 engine in the car but a replacement engine.
check the oil filler tube and cap and other features that identify L jets.
its also possible that its a frankenstein engine. plenty of those have come up.
tin on a 1.8 is identical to 1.7 so you can easily build up an engine out of various pieces,
but its not an original piece of 1.8 tin with that number.

further numbers from that era were that all euro 1.7 engines in 72/73 appear to have been marked with 606. prior to that in 70,71 and maybe part way into 672 they used a different coding system. the number was 0.226. also additional M codes also stamped on the engine tin identified them as european market or north american market packages.
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post Jul 24 2024, 06:48 AM
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That would explain it - Frankenstein engine. The rest is clearly a 1.8; just a replacement tin. Will let him know. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Jul 24 2024, 11:56 PM
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That would explain it - Frankenstein engine. The rest is clearly a 1.8; just a replacement tin. Will let him know. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Thanks!


for reference in future to help here is the list of stamp numbers i got to.
complete i believe for all the USA market cars.
but don't have complete info on the home/euro/japan market cars.

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here is another little anomaly i picked up between the 74 1.8 and the 75 1.8.
i assume it might also be there for the 74 and 75 2.0 cars?

i was looking at the tyre pressure stickers i had for 75 1.8s thats on the gas tank.
which i never really looked at closely.

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i noticed it indicates same tyre pressures for front and rear.
and further distinguishes between 1/2 load (26 psi F/R) or full load (29 psi F/R).

and i thought hang on?

this is what the 74 sticker says.

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which i have always taken to mean. 26 psi front, 29 psi rear.

which the 1974 owners manual says very clearly!

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even the french owners manual says the same as the english in 74.
front and rear are different. 26 and 29 respectively.

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don't have any 75/76 owners manuals on file to see what was written into the owners manual versus the 75 gas tank sticker to see if they changed it in the owners manual.

interesting.
is the gas tank sticker in 75 a typo or error?
or did they change their advice on tyre pressures in 75?
or is the advice in the 74 and pre 74 owners manual incorrect and the sticker on the gas tank sort of ambiguous - ie it could be read as 26 normal, 29 full load (for all tyres).

germans!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Apr 16 2025, 06:19 PM
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Yep, just like mine. I’d interpret as one person/two people.
Have always kept mine about 32 anyway.

BTW, paid the price for being lazy and not putting on the service mat while checking battery in Spring prep last week. Dropped the volt mater on the top edge of the quarter panel. Ouch. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)
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Yep, just like mine. I’d interpret as one person/two people.
Have always kept mine about 32 anyway.

BTW, paid the price for being lazy and not putting on the service mat while checking battery in Spring prep last week. Dropped the volt mater on the top edge of the quarter panel. Ouch. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)
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ah well. you just have to grin and bear it.
dings and scratches are a part of the bigger picture.
there are a few of those on my car. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
each one of them has got a story like yours. usually me dropping something or bumping something into it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

on the tyre front. i naturally assumed there is a difference in pressure front to back despite the 50/50 wt distribution. my old type 3 variant had recommended tyre pressures of 18-20 psi on front tyres and 28-30 rear. of course it was rear engined. think beetles were the same. if you pumped all tyres up even the handling became truly deadly. massive understeer.

i'm pretty sure they are supposed to be different front to rear. its only a small amount.
2lbs. i keep mine 26-28 split front to rear.
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Yep; think I’ll start doing that. Maybe 28/30
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