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> Injector flow test FAIL ?, Troubleshooting lean condition
jim-c
post Jan 9 2022, 07:32 PM
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Im working on my recent 914 purchase. 2.0L engine. D-Jet ECU . Intially the engine would fire right up and idle smooth at 1000 rpm. Unfortunately it didn’t want to rev above idle. I could quick pump the throttle and get it to rev but it was undrivable.

I have an AFR gauge and it shows dead lean when i try to rev.
I did a flow test on two injectors ( all 4 are new ) . I have 28lbs of FP .
Full throttle and crank for 15 seconds yields 2cc per injector. Supposed to be 7 ish.

Any ideas ?

Nice new harness, MPS holds vacuum and has correct impedance readings.
The balance of sensors check out okay with test procedure. Fuel pump holds 28 lbs steady and pumped a quart of gas within 30 seconds .
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post Jan 14 2022, 08:03 PM
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Low idle vacuum is likely a timing problem or undiscovered vacuum leak. Also, do you have the correct 123 Distributor that is set up to run with Djet? Not all the 123 Dizzys are compatible with Djet. You could be running on the cold start injector only if the 123 Dizzy is not sending the correct pulse signal to your ECU to fire the injectors.

Low fuel pressure could be a kinked rubber fuel line hose (or metal pipe) somewhere in the fuel system between the tank and the engine; or a faulty fuel pressure regulator that is stuck slightly open and sending a lot of the gas back to the tank.

Failure of fuel pump to run long enough is going to be a wiring (or internal ignition switch failure) or an ECU problem.
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post Jan 14 2022, 08:42 PM
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QUOTE(914sgofast2 @ Jan 14 2022, 09:03 PM) *

Low idle vacuum is likely a timing problem or undiscovered vacuum leak. Also, do you have the correct 123 Distributor that is set up to run with Djet? Not all the 123 Dizzys are compatible with Djet. You could be running on the cold start injector only if the 123 Dizzy is not sending the correct pulse signal to your ECU to fire the injectors.

Low fuel pressure could be a kinked rubber fuel line hose (or metal pipe) somewhere in the fuel system between the tank and the engine; or a faulty fuel pressure regulator that is stuck slightly open and sending a lot of the gas back to the tank.

Failure of fuel pump to run long enough is going to be a wiring (or internal ignition switch failure) or an ECU problem.


Very interesting! I didn't even consider the chance of a dizzy mismatch. I assume he was measuring pressure at the normal fitting so that should catch any of those issues I think. If the regulator was dumping it back to the tank the pressure at the nipple would drop. I know a good test would have to be under load (omg don't get me started with this crap on ford CFI systems) but even without load the engine has issues so if it were pressure problems, you would see it.

I really like your idea on the dizzy though. Easy to check.

Something else that might be interesting to try (and easy, perhaps you already mentioned trying it) would be jack your fuel pressure way up. I have had my regulator all the way up to 50 psi just to test out stuff (some dufus put a 1.7 injector in a 2.0). If nothing changes or barely changes, I would really start to pursue the computer/dizzy side. The injectors are not firing enough or long enough.

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jim-c   Injector flow test FAIL ?   Jan 9 2022, 07:32 PM
JeffBowlsby   Do you mean resistance, or inductance? Has the MP...   Jan 9 2022, 09:37 PM
jim-c   Do you mean resistance, or inductance? Has the M...   Jan 9 2022, 09:52 PM
JeffBowlsby   Too many variables here now. An adjusted MPS, new...   Jan 9 2022, 11:45 PM
emerygt350   Since you have a 123 and the MPS really can be out...   Jan 10 2022, 05:56 AM
jim-c   Since you have a 123 and the MPS really can be ou...   Jan 10 2022, 10:51 AM
rjames   Since you have a 123 and the MPS really can be o...   Jan 10 2022, 11:39 AM
jim-c   Thanks for the replies. I flow tested all 4 inje...   Jan 10 2022, 09:21 AM
emerygt350   It's a super easy rebuild. I think I got mine...   Jan 10 2022, 12:00 PM
emerygt350   It's a super easy rebuild. I think I got min...   Jan 10 2022, 12:03 PM
JeffBowlsby   I am struggling to understand the low fuel flow an...   Jan 10 2022, 12:07 PM
jim-c   I am struggling to understand the low fuel flow a...   Jan 10 2022, 12:36 PM
rhodyguy   The fuel sock lives in the bottom of the tank. If ...   Jan 10 2022, 12:45 PM
rjames   The fuel sock lives in the bottom of the tank. If...   Jan 10 2022, 12:54 PM
jim-c   The fuel sock lives in the bottom of the tank. If...   Jan 11 2022, 10:55 AM
914Mels   Im working on my recent 914 purchase. 2.0L engine...   Jan 10 2022, 01:31 PM
jim-c   Is the manifold pressure sensor hose clear? Are yo...   Jan 11 2022, 10:57 AM
jim-c   Progress update . Tank sock filter was vertical. ...   Jan 14 2022, 11:42 AM
emerygt350   Progress update . Tank sock filter was vertical....   Jan 14 2022, 01:35 PM
914sgofast2   Low idle vacuum is likely a timing problem or undi...   Jan 14 2022, 08:03 PM
emerygt350   Low idle vacuum is likely a timing problem or und...   Jan 14 2022, 08:42 PM
jim-c   Here’s an update /solution for my problem. I pul...   Jan 16 2022, 05:54 PM
StarBear   Here’s an update /solution for my problem. I pu...   Jan 16 2022, 06:01 PM
emerygt350   That is great. Post the link for the tester!   Jan 16 2022, 06:22 PM


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