converting to carb, that f.i. pressure sensor is $$$$$$ |
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converting to carb, that f.i. pressure sensor is $$$$$$ |
fatlando |
Jul 30 2005, 06:03 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 259 Joined: 6-September 04 From: imperial beach, california Member No.: 2,700 |
My sensor is dead, so i thought i would just spend $40 bucks and get a new one...ha! was i wrong...so my mechanic buddy (i'm stoopid) recommended to convert to carbs.
I'm just doing a single carb set since i got a $400.00 budget. I can't believe that sensor is $800 to $1200..... anyway do any of you sell or know of a good deal? I found this on ebay which is just in my range.. what do you think? http://cgi.ebay.com/progressive-weber-carb...1QQcmdZViewItem |
bondo |
Jul 30 2005, 06:18 PM
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Practicing my perpendicular parking Group: Members Posts: 4,277 Joined: 19-April 03 From: Los Osos, CA Member No.: 587 Region Association: Central California |
Nooooooo! Don't do it!
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echocanyons |
Jul 30 2005, 06:19 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,094 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Bay Area, CA Member No.: 7 Region Association: Central California |
You would be better off finding a rebuilt sensor Bleyseng repairs them.
IMHO that carb is the worst thing you could do to your car |
morph |
Jul 30 2005, 06:39 PM
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quality parts builder Group: Members Posts: 1,828 Joined: 25-November 03 From: oregon coast Member No.: 1,389 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
i prefer carbs,but a single carb really is not the way to go.
since you allready have fi.keep it.a true carb conversion is not cheap.(cam,DUAL carbs,ect.ect)i have boxes of fi systems.(2.0/1.8/and 1.7)send me a pm of the part you need.ill sell it to ya cheap.(used of course)or talk to Bleyseng he can fix ya up with a rebuilt one.if its the part i think you need. james |
lapuwali |
Jul 30 2005, 06:40 PM
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Not another one! Group: Benefactors Posts: 4,526 Joined: 1-March 04 From: San Mateo, CA Member No.: 1,743 |
Specifically, that SINGLE carb is the worst thing you could do. Dual Webers can work, but a complete used setup will run you $500 or so. Fuel mileage will plummet with an otherwise stock engine (18-22mpg, typical).
There are used MPS sensors out there, and some of them even work. You can also explore aftermarket EFI, which ditches the MPS for a modern sensor ($400-1200, depending on what you get and how much you can do yourself). |
ArtechnikA |
Jul 30 2005, 06:41 PM
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firstknight13 |
Jul 30 2005, 07:24 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 652 Joined: 25-March 05 From: manchester,ct. Member No.: 3,817 |
don't forget the dist!! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) and tuning them is not fot the faint of heart!!!( dual webbers) that is!!!! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/unsure.gif)
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Porsche Rescue |
Jul 30 2005, 07:51 PM
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Saving and Enjoying Old Porsches Group: Members Posts: 2,978 Joined: 31-December 02 From: Bend, Oregon Member No.: 64 Region Association: None |
Don't give up on the FI. In my experience a good running FI car is far superior to a good running dual carb car. A single carb is a big step backwards.
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TravisNeff |
Jul 30 2005, 07:53 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,082 Joined: 20-March 03 From: Mesa, AZ Member No.: 447 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Get a new mechanic, and a new friend. Obviously he is offering a cheaper alternative to what I gather is an MPS?? Converting to carbs is going to cost you over half of that budget, and a pain in the ass getting it dialed in (add to that cost). You can find used parts that will work fine, if Bleyseng is rebuilding the units - do that.
You can find a good used MPS for not a lot of money (comparatively speaking) - stay away from ebay on those units - just be sure you can test the unit with a vacuum guage and return it if it is bad. |
dlo914 |
Jul 30 2005, 08:10 PM
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Whatchu' lookin' at?!?! Group: Members Posts: 3,432 Joined: 6-September 04 From: San Gabriel, CA Member No.: 2,697 |
my mechanic managed to find a rebuilt FPS for less than $200...PM if you want any info..i'll check w/ my mechanic.
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dlo914 |
Jul 30 2005, 08:29 PM
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Whatchu' lookin' at?!?! Group: Members Posts: 3,432 Joined: 6-September 04 From: San Gabriel, CA Member No.: 2,697 |
correction it wasn't the MPS, it was the Fuel Pressure Regulator...sorry (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) |
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echocanyons |
Jul 30 2005, 08:36 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,094 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Bay Area, CA Member No.: 7 Region Association: Central California |
FPR's are available from all the porsche parts houses for under 75$
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dlo914 |
Jul 30 2005, 08:37 PM
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yea he got mines for $70 (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/unsure.gif) |
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SirAndy |
Jul 30 2005, 08:39 PM
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SirAndy |
Jul 30 2005, 08:40 PM
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rhodyguy |
Jul 30 2005, 09:13 PM
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wtb,wtb,wtb. the classifieds man. in addition to carbs and dist add in a GOOD linkage, and a new fuel pump. don't do the single, esp for $400. does anyone know if it matters if one is off a 1.7/2.0 djet or a l-jet? lando, did you ever recieve my message about the steam cleaner? i never heard back.
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JoeSharp |
Jul 30 2005, 10:52 PM
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In Irvine, Ca. May 15-18 Group: Members Posts: 3,947 Joined: 9-July 03 From: DeLand, Florida Member No.: 898 Region Association: South East States |
Fats: I'm curently doing a conversion on a 1.7 to twin Solex 40's. I have done a conversion on my 1.8 that is my daily driver. I'm completly happy with it and would recomend it to anyone needing to use thier 1.8 914....
:PERMAGRIN: Joe |
jr91472 |
Jul 31 2005, 06:25 AM
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"I'm pacing myself sergeant..." Group: Members Posts: 1,205 Joined: 2-August 04 From: McKinney, TX Member No.: 2,437 |
if you continue to follow this thread, you WILL get varied opinions on this topic. But most carb fans will agree, the single progressive is bad.
Most carb fans will also tell you, that without a "carb friendly" cam, converting is REALLY bad....not a simple as pulling off the FI then bolting on carbs. good luck |
Michael J |
Jul 31 2005, 10:15 AM
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Welcome to 2007 Group: Members Posts: 268 Joined: 23-November 04 From: Olympia, WA Member No.: 3,166 |
So i'm sitting on the fence with no real strong opinion one way or the other about carbs VS FI. I have a stock FI system that ,for now, works great. I have driven carbed cars that ran like crap for whatever reason. So I think this is a preference question. What I am questioning is why the single progressive carb is a "bad" idea for a stock engine?? It worked for VW for a lot of years. I used to have a beetle with big bore kit, ported heads, cam and a single two barrel. Seemed to run really good. So whats the technical evaluation of why lando shouldn't do the single carb conversion? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/confused24.gif)
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spare time toys |
Jul 31 2005, 10:22 AM
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hooked on grilling food. Group: Members Posts: 4,059 Joined: 3-April 04 From: West Plano Tx Member No.: 1,884 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Do a Subby or Cheby V8 and be done with it. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/lol2.gif)
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